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266. He's swearing more now, too. This is getting out of hand.

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***** LIVE feed: #OregonStandoff Ends - Cliven Bundy Jailed - #BundyTeaParty ***** [View all] L. Coyote Feb 2016 OP

The video is from yesterday. Here's a live feed from KGW tv. lamp_shade Feb 2016 #1

Thanks for the link! 2naSalit Feb 2016 #5

Link to T-V coverage: L. Coyote Feb 2016 #6

Damn, those people are stooooooopid. nt valerief Feb 2016 #111

Jiminy . . this guy is suiciding by Fed here! annabanana Feb 2016 #146

Will R&K in support. (Updated) longship Feb 2016 #2

Crazy does not quite describe him malaise Feb 2016 #3

The revolution is starting tomorrow if they can just get themselves killed today. Delusional! L. Coyote Feb 2016 #4

I wish they were streaming from inside right now, Mendocino Feb 2016 #7

Cliven Bundy to appear in court at 1:30 today in Portland. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #8

LIVE video from the occupiers is back now, Fiore en route and on the phone again. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #9

We are both on it LOL, was just going to post that- David Crying ROFLMAO snooper2 Feb 2016 #10

Gavin Seim needs to be fucking arrested geomon666 Feb 2016 #11

I'm hoping Fiore leaves in handcuffs L. Coyote Feb 2016 #12

Did Michelle bring Mendocino Feb 2016 #13

Fiore is getting into the FBI car now, Gavin says don't let them take your phone. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #14

This is hard to listen to. polly7 Feb 2016 #15

It is fucking hilarious...The comments on the live stream are better, I'm contributing ROFL snooper2 Feb 2016 #16

All they have to do is surrender and face a little jail time. polly7 Feb 2016 #17

95% of the comments are making fun of these fools, can they take the dildos into Jail? snooper2 Feb 2016 #18

I so hope no-one will be hurt. polly7 Feb 2016 #20

I listened to it all...PRAY PRAY PRAY! Pray for BRAVEHEART ROFL snooper2 Feb 2016 #21

He needs it. geomon666 Feb 2016 #23

How do people become that deluded?? polly7 Feb 2016 #24

The crazy wingnuts have their own echo chamber, as we are hearing right now. Belief supercedes all. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #28

"How do people become that deluded??" dixiegrrrrl Feb 2016 #244

Now we have a good Darwinian reason for prayer, to calm down the insane! L. Coyote Feb 2016 #26

They want them dead - how else will it help malaise Feb 2016 #57

Amazing how fast that feed is rolling. Fiore found her glasses and can see again. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #22

I love the braveheart comments LOL- and- Y'All Quedas LAST STAND! snooper2 Feb 2016 #25

They are coming out with LaVoy's bible, FBI says O.K. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #19

They still think they are just following the constitution ROFLMAO snooper2 Feb 2016 #27

Sean Anderson comparing selves to Jesus in terms of persecution L. Coyote Feb 2016 #29

You hear that crazy lady on phone! trying to get them to stay and stand! snooper2 Feb 2016 #30

Time to screen callers. Fiore and Graham near checkpoint. Helicopter and drone over occupation. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #46

Wait, is someone playing Alvin and the Chipmunks? nt Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2016 #31

God could not provide better cellular reception. geomon666 Feb 2016 #32

Sounded like it LOL..just Victoria's crazy mom singing snooper2 Feb 2016 #33

Is there audio? I can't get it flamingdem Feb 2016 #34

Here... brooklynite Feb 2016 #37

Thanks, got here in time for the Gran Finale flamingdem Feb 2016 #40

Franklin Graham want's to give domestic terrorists a "big hug"... brooklynite Feb 2016 #35

Two of the Nevada State Reps supporting the #Malheur militants are part of Ted Cruz's Nevada team L. Coyote Feb 2016 #36

They're talking so oddly I can't tell if they're trying to use code or are just that weird. Brickbat Feb 2016 #38

They're that weird. geomon666 Feb 2016 #39

No, I know that. Brickbat Feb 2016 #44

Sean doesn't work geomon666 Feb 2016 #45

They are just nuts- Saw one comment- DILDOS UP DON'T SHOOT snooper2 Feb 2016 #42

"Please go pee now..." brooklynite Feb 2016 #41

OMFG she's telling them to pee before this trip like they're four. Brickbat Feb 2016 #43

And, "make sure you have enough caffeine in you" for the long day ahead, no Starbucks stops .... L. Coyote Feb 2016 #52

Here's Fiore in action in NV Assembly, telling fellow R to "Sit your ass down" Quiet_Dem_Mom Feb 2016 #47

What's that about 50 Shades of Gray? Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2016 #48

Something related to telling their story at a later date... brooklynite Feb 2016 #49

They're afraid of fucking birds. geomon666 Feb 2016 #50

"I like crows..." brooklynite Feb 2016 #51

"Surreal" is what I was thinking as they started talking country music. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #53

"As a Christian nation ..." says Fiore, ranchers are listening, "America is paying attention" L. Coyote Feb 2016 #54

Time to send the white coats in. These folks are totally off their rockers. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #55

It's a trap!! flamingdem Feb 2016 #56

. geomon666 Feb 2016 #58

"I'm going to meet you and hug you" - Michelle Fiore von Trapp flamingdem Feb 2016 #61

Tarpe Diem! panader0 Feb 2016 #66

DUzy L. Coyote Feb 2016 #68

It's a tarp! pinboy3niner Feb 2016 #82

I got yer foundational principles flamingdem Feb 2016 #59

man... dhill926 Feb 2016 #138

Is Gramham there yet? Mendocino Feb 2016 #60

Maybe? Is he the one speaking to press on the KGW feed? Quiet_Dem_Mom Feb 2016 #63

I think that is Mike Arnold Mendocino Feb 2016 #67

As I understand things... brooklynite Feb 2016 #64

Thank You Mendocino Feb 2016 #70

Now inside the military vehicle going into the refuge with Michele Fiore. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #69

"we cleaned up the camp so everything's OK"... brooklynite Feb 2016 #62

Don't surrender! It's a cookbook! Kingofalldems Feb 2016 #65

Soylent Green is people!!! winstars Feb 2016 #71

One of them is "fried" Mendocino Feb 2016 #74

Anyone else looking forward to the handcuffs and these clowns being on mute. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #72

Perp walk will be amazing. geomon666 Feb 2016 #73

Now there's a reason to pray! I'm hoping Michele gets arrested too, but I doubt it. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #75

Bagpipe music? geomon666 Feb 2016 #76

They couldn't surrender until their screenplay was finished. Here's the theme song. nolabear Feb 2016 #80

Waiting for ther surrender music to start, then she can walk out to surrender to the authorities. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #77

TF--Surrender music? nt Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2016 #78

We are Soldiers, a Mel Gibson film? L. Coyote Feb 2016 #86

Looks like David doesn't want to go home. nt Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2016 #88

LOL...I don't think he's going home. Iggo Feb 2016 #160

"You have the right to remain silent so PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP!" randome Feb 2016 #79

Is there a visual stream anywhere? nolabear Feb 2016 #81

"How many people on live stream now?" 20K silence. Devin says, "Keep talking, keep talking guys." L. Coyote Feb 2016 #83

Boy, this is the whitest surrender that ever white surrendered. nolabear Feb 2016 #84

God, it's like listening to thirteen year olds talk philosophy. nolabear Feb 2016 #85

Dildo Dave geomon666 Feb 2016 #87

Fry isn't coming out! "They can come get me." randome Feb 2016 #89

"He's feeling suicidal" geomon666 Feb 2016 #92

I have the thought he's insane, and wants to die. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #117

I knew Dave would screw it all up! wheniwasincongress Feb 2016 #90

"I'm actually feeling suicidal right now." randome Feb 2016 #91

Now David Fry may be refusing to surrender, making demands and not coming out. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #93

David was not impressed - only 20,000 listening flamingdem Feb 2016 #96

Bringing up "circumcised men" might help! L. Coyote Feb 2016 #106

David is looking for suicide by cop flamingdem Feb 2016 #94

I fucking knew it....I knew it LOL! David Fry wants to die a "warrior", he just said suicidal snooper2 Feb 2016 #95

I'm thinking he's disappointed that some evil Government sniper didn't bump him off. brooklynite Feb 2016 #100

David's freaking out. nolabear Feb 2016 #97

David Fry sounds totally suicidal. nt avebury Feb 2016 #98

Oh, David. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2016 #99

He's right, too, his 'message' will be ignored. I think that's what hurts him the most. randome Feb 2016 #101

I expect you're right. nolabear Feb 2016 #103

"I'm a free man, I will die a free man." ... "Just call me on the cell phone to talk a little bit." L. Coyote Feb 2016 #102

He doesn't want summer camp to end. n/t ebayfool Feb 2016 #116

They've been trying this long to talk logic into him. I don't think it's going to work. randome Feb 2016 #104

What has happened to the other three? wheniwasincongress Feb 2016 #105

They surrendered. NutmegYankee Feb 2016 #107

The others already surrendered geomon666 Feb 2016 #110

They are getting hugged by Michele Fiore, they thought. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #112

David..... Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2016 #108

I still say no matter their crazy these guys are fabulous negotiators. nolabear Feb 2016 #109

When did this turn into a DU circumscism thread? nt Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2016 #119

I think he's gone full martyr. It's all he's got left. nolabear Feb 2016 #113

"Call me on the cellphone!" me b zola Feb 2016 #114

He is full fucking crazy- Like a 8 year old- THIS IS MY FORT snooper2 Feb 2016 #127

An eight year old who knows they're about to get punished me b zola Feb 2016 #161

"You still have a long life ahead of you." randome Feb 2016 #115

I think they should promise him a book deal flamingdem Feb 2016 #123

Stephen Colbert would be happy to have him on. randome Feb 2016 #129

David just declared war!!! Kingofalldems Feb 2016 #118

WOOHOO - David declared war against the US Government! NutmegYankee Feb 2016 #120

For the future: Where were YOU when David Fry shot himself on live radio? randome Feb 2016 #121

Hey man, nice shot. nt Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2016 #125

sucks I have a conference call in 1 minute, I'll have to rely on my fellow trolls commenting snooper2 Feb 2016 #131

"I declare war on the United states government right now." ... because I have grievences ... Fry L. Coyote Feb 2016 #122

She's just trying to stupid-talk him into surrendering. He only understands stupid-talk. valerief Feb 2016 #132

KrisAnne Hall, some RW talk show host Quiet_Dem_Mom Feb 2016 #133

He's going on about taxpayer dollars being used for abortions. randome Feb 2016 #124

He wants to die because he doesn't want to pay taxes? geomon666 Feb 2016 #126

His grievance is, "My tax dollars are going to abortion." valerief Feb 2016 #128

Whoof. Why this guy? Why is he the last holdout? nolabear Feb 2016 #130

A mediocre life is his history, I think. This is his one chance to be a hero. randome Feb 2016 #135

Seemed the most likely scenario. nolabear Feb 2016 #137

Read that his dad is a teabagger and even dad thinks he's nuts! n/t ebayfool Feb 2016 #141

Be careful what you create. nolabear Feb 2016 #142

Can someone explain to me why the negotiation is with a blogger... brooklynite Feb 2016 #134

Because they'd rather talk with a fellow nutbag geomon666 Feb 2016 #140

Well, the FBI probably wouldn't have called him a coward as Fiore just did. randome Feb 2016 #145

He's risking his life over a word he probably can't even spell. valerief Feb 2016 #136

"How about you back away a little bit, you guys are freaking me out." Fry to FBI L. Coyote Feb 2016 #139

I'm thinking this guy is losing his connection to these "fellow patriots" brooklynite Feb 2016 #143

When the woman told him to not be a coward and to go on out csziggy Feb 2016 #156

Is David a manic-depressive or just an attention seeking idiot? flamingdem Feb 2016 #144

Maybe the autopsy can tell. randome Feb 2016 #147

FBI photo of David - flamingdem Feb 2016 #153

I think David is at present hysterical and in real danger of suicide. nolabear Feb 2016 #152

I agree he is hysterical flamingdem Feb 2016 #166

Yeah, I'm a shrink. It's a horrid, complex thing. I feel for him in some ways. nolabear Feb 2016 #172

Possible good sign, asking for absolute protection. It opens a tiny possibility. nolabear Feb 2016 #174

The description says they are easily influenced flamingdem Feb 2016 #185

He's just going back and forth, trying to find some resolution, even death. nolabear Feb 2016 #209

I think he had real mental issues before this and this has only exacerbated them. Brickbat Feb 2016 #164

Dave's not here, man. nolabear Feb 2016 #148

"I'm not coming out until my demands are met." Fry L. Coyote Feb 2016 #149

The Roman Government paid for abortions..." brooklynite Feb 2016 #150

Also probably not a good idea to bring up Jesus because Fry pointed out that Jesus died. randome Feb 2016 #151

He's turning on his negotiators. randome Feb 2016 #154

He wants to not pay taxes. What a numbnuts. I hate that most of my valerief Feb 2016 #155

Boy I'm jumpy as hell. Every bump makes me startle. nolabear Feb 2016 #157

This is sad. I wish he had family talking to him, or someone other than these polly7 Feb 2016 #158

He doesn't care about his family. geomon666 Feb 2016 #165

But his mind is trapped in these idiots cause ... polly7 Feb 2016 #170

"You guys aren't willing to sacrifice..." brooklynite Feb 2016 #159

Whoa! Where did this bit about Muslims come from? brooklynite Feb 2016 #169

This message was self-deleted by its author brooklynite Feb 2016 #173

Levoy stepped out for a peaceful resolution? He tried to run over an FBI agent and then Elwood P Dowd Feb 2016 #162

These people are flippin' nutters pinebox Feb 2016 #163

Sovereign citizens. NT NutmegYankee Feb 2016 #167

Yes, agreed 100% pinebox Feb 2016 #182

Yeah, I feel bad for David Fry. The others are wilfully ignorant. He's got mental issues. Brickbat Feb 2016 #168

And there is Panic On The Prairie Databuser Feb 2016 #171

He's afraid of being raped in jail. randome Feb 2016 #175

He's terrified and his mind is filling in the blanks. nolabear Feb 2016 #181

Yes, I agree with that. I feel awful for him. nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #190

Okay the Lone Ranger theme made me LOL. nolabear Feb 2016 #176

SNL has a gold mine in these idiots. Hell, they could start a weekly Bundy Bunch series Elwood P Dowd Feb 2016 #177

Very tempting to whip out a fiction tome. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #193

Oh honey. Brickbat Feb 2016 #178

Does anyone else think they'll put him in a "special" prision...with padded walls? brooklynite Feb 2016 #179

It's what he needs over jail, IMO. Brickbat Feb 2016 #183

Yeah, he really does need mental help. nt NutmegYankee Feb 2016 #192

The shithead should have thought about being raped in prison before he pulled this bullshit. nt valerief Feb 2016 #180

Wouldn't it be cool if, when the FBI sneaked in earlier, they unloaded all the guns? randome Feb 2016 #184

HOLY CRAP, just tuned in again this AM ghostsinthemachine Feb 2016 #186

Three have turned themselve in - David Fry is having a meltdown csziggy Feb 2016 #198

thanks ghostsinthemachine Feb 2016 #216

Ha, it comes down to pot! ghostsinthemachine Feb 2016 #217

"If you walk out of there right now, you will have millions of viewers ..." L. Coyote Feb 2016 #187

He seems to bounce between calm and hysterical... brooklynite Feb 2016 #188

I think they've made several mistakes. randome Feb 2016 #189

Wasn't the point of Franklin Graham showing up to help with the surrender? brooklynite Feb 2016 #191

"I'm actually pointing a gun at my head." randome Feb 2016 #194

Oh, hell. Brickbat Feb 2016 #196

ROFL, for all his big, bad ass BS, he's a chickenshit! Glitterati Feb 2016 #195

"I'M ACTUALLY POINTING A GUN AT MY HEAD" brooklynite Feb 2016 #197

Give me Pizza, Or.... Databuser Feb 2016 #199

my tax dollars will NOT pay for his pizza IcyPeas Feb 2016 #200

She is a wingnut broadcaster on Gavin channel. Time to pray says Gavin. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #207

Full circle as we get back to snacks as he points a gun at his head. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #201

Who the fuck is The Helper? Damn, I don't know all this Jesus shit. nt valerief Feb 2016 #202

John 14:26. Jesus' last speach to John haele Feb 2016 #257

Seems to me the people talking with him are feeding his delusions. Solly Mack Feb 2016 #203

Of course. He's a fuckin' crazy criminal. Why would they do anything differently? nt valerief Feb 2016 #206

You don't feed the delusions. You calm them, or try. Solly Mack Feb 2016 #229

Ring wing radio nuts, what do you expect at a Tea Party? Even their prayers are delusional. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #212

I know they're idiots too. That's why they shouldn't be allowed to talk with him. Solly Mack Feb 2016 #233

Good ploy, Jesus walked out. He might be utterly past that though. nolabear Feb 2016 #204

"I'm tired, everybody." Pretty soon he'll say 'Goodbye' and that will be that. randome Feb 2016 #205

He's so scared. Why isn't an FBI negotiator talking to him? nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #208

Because all he did last night was curse at them and call them names maybe? (nt) Elwood P Dowd Feb 2016 #215

He really needs someone besides these fanatics though. There's got to be polly7 Feb 2016 #224

I'm going to call them 'The Bundy 4'. Not to be confused with the Bundy 4 on 'Married with Children' SummerSnow Feb 2016 #210

Fer krissakes lure him with a bag of Cheetos! flamingdem Feb 2016 #211

"I'm really confused right now..." brooklynite Feb 2016 #213

"Hush, Harriet! That's a sure way to get him killed! " Databuser Feb 2016 #214

"All I needed was my marijuana!" Don't we all, son. OTOH, he was probably self-medicating Brickbat Feb 2016 #218

As much as I hate this terrorist motherfucker... NutmegYankee Feb 2016 #225

Yep. As I say, the others were willfully ignorant and trying to be destructive. This guy is just Brickbat Feb 2016 #228

I feel very sad for him. What a terrible life. He feels utterly betrayed by his ideology. nolabear Feb 2016 #232

I do too. Very sad. nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #238

See, kiddies, this is what marijuana does to you. randome Feb 2016 #226

give him some friggen marijuana!!!!!! this would settle it peacefully IcyPeas Feb 2016 #219

Weed and pizza Mendocino Feb 2016 #220

"I don't care about the movement anymore." randome Feb 2016 #221

David complains he needs his marijuana, gotta agree with that observation. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #222

I wish more media was covering this. It's the natural end of the Tea Party thought process. Despair. nolabear Feb 2016 #223

They won't even let me have my marijuana! avebury Feb 2016 #227

Give this man his weed, in the name of God flamingdem Feb 2016 #230

seriously. they should. IcyPeas Feb 2016 #235

DUzy. I'll offer my services to the FBI as an Oregonian who can give away weed legally. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #237

If we're going to debate the Bible, isn't that why Franklin Graham is here? brooklynite Feb 2016 #231

Graham is a real villain here in my opinion. If there was no media he'd never have come. nolabear Feb 2016 #234

I think Fiore & Graham are at the surrender point. The youtube people are there by ... ebayfool Feb 2016 #252

The clock is ticking dude.The Feds are growing tired SummerSnow Feb 2016 #236

Who's the idiot with the flag? SummerSnow Feb 2016 #239

The live feed video on KGW is located at the roadblock where the press is waiting. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #245

"Describe the room for me." Seriously? You say this to a paranoid, suicidal nutbag? randome Feb 2016 #240

I cackled when she said that. That didn't sound ANYTHING like someone trying to get info for a Brickbat Feb 2016 #241

I didn't think of that. Asking him to sit up might have the same effect. nolabear Feb 2016 #246

He doesn't care about the outside world anymore. polly7 Feb 2016 #242

Then she ask if he is standing up? SummerSnow Feb 2016 #243

Amateurs. randome Feb 2016 #249

Seriously, are there any crazy and dangerous people who AREN'T religious? nt valerief Feb 2016 #247

Voting is not how we protect liberty... WTF??? Nutjobs winstars Feb 2016 #248

Almost hilarious, isn't it? She's winging it, of course, but she is ill-equipped to fly. randome Feb 2016 #251

If Fry is not willing to do the time, he shouldn't have done the crime. nt avebury Feb 2016 #250

Cue in the theme to 'Baretta' SummerSnow Feb 2016 #253

He's not a Christian, he's a Messianic Judaist? randome Feb 2016 #254

I heard it, too. He's a Jews for Jesus guy. valerief Feb 2016 #260

They have messianic Judaism temples here in NYC. SummerSnow Feb 2016 #261

...and over the cliff we go... brooklynite Feb 2016 #255

Too afraid to go to jail, to afraid to die. wtf SummerSnow Feb 2016 #256

Makes him pretty ill equipped to start a movement against a sovereign nation... LannyDeVaney Feb 2016 #259

Oh boy he's losing it now. Seems as if he had made up his mind ghostsinthemachine Feb 2016 #258

"I'm making sure I'm not coming out alive" brooklynite Feb 2016 #262

They need to send him a pizza laced with soporifics. nt pinboy3niner Feb 2016 #264

Who'll volunteer to deliver it? valerief Feb 2016 #269

Grovelbot pinboy3niner Feb 2016 #273

Yep,mind is made up ghostsinthemachine Feb 2016 #265

He's swearing more now, too. This is getting out of hand. Brickbat Feb 2016 #266

All he keeps saying,' your'e not addressing my concerns'. SummerSnow Feb 2016 #271

Did he just threaten the feds? SummerSnow Feb 2016 #263

Maybe they should just wait until he falls asleep? brooklynite Feb 2016 #267

Adrenalin... I'd guess Ellipsis Feb 2016 #272

I'm concerned he'll kill himself before he allows himself to sleep. NutmegYankee Feb 2016 #274

He''l be fine just fine if they get him out... Ellipsis Feb 2016 #279

It takes a skilled negotiator to talk down a mentally ill person. NutmegYankee Feb 2016 #283

Time to flash bang this dude. He's suicidal. Ellipsis Feb 2016 #268

"UFOs are real"... brooklynite Feb 2016 #270

That's right, lady -- give an unacceptable ultimatum to a suicidal guy. Brickbat Feb 2016 #275

***** LIVE: #OregonStandoff Ending? - Cliven Bundy Jailed - #BundyTeaParty - Thread 2 ***** L. Coyote Feb 2016 #276

He's the anti-Unibomber! ghostsinthemachine Feb 2016 #277

You know, at some point his cell phone is going to die. brooklynite Feb 2016 #278

"I don't care what people think of me." randome Feb 2016 #280

"I can't do anything more for you." WTF? randome Feb 2016 #281

Yeah ....... she's not all that helpful. nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #284

"Obama's a traitor." randome Feb 2016 #282

Syria was a democracy and a pretty good country? Elwood P Dowd Feb 2016 #285

nutbaggery to the Nth degree... wow. boomer55 Feb 2016 #286

Finally coming out now. (nt) Elwood P Dowd Feb 2016 #290

"THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO STOP CHEMICALLY MUTATING PEOPLE" jberryhill Feb 2016 #287

I heard him pull a trigger , dry shot, twice already snooper2 Feb 2016 #288

There's a 2nd thread on this. randome Feb 2016 #289

I was holding my breath. So glad he's safe in custody. nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #291

Now toss his sorry ass in a windowless cell for many years. seaotter Feb 2016 #292

***** LIVE: #OregonStandoff Ending? - Cliven Bundy Jailed - #BundyTeaParty - Thread 2 ***** L. Coyote Feb 2016 #293

Whew, thought that was going to go south ghostsinthemachine Feb 2016 #294

Seven vehicle caravan exiting the refuge on the live feed now. Standoff is over. L. Coyote Feb 2016 #295