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MADem

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Sun Jun 3, 2012, 02:04 PM Jun 2012

3-Year-Old Kicked Off Airplane for Crying [View all]

This is an interesting "issue" post--I know pretty much everyone has an opinion about loud or crying or unruly children on airplanes:

It’s every grumpy passenger’s dream and every parent’s nightmare. An unhappy 3-year-old child and his undoubtedly unhappier father were kicked off an Alaska Airlines flight from Seattle to Miami over the Memorial Day weekend after the child wouldn’t stay buckled in his seat.

Mark Yanchuk of Everett, Wash., and his son Daniel were starting the first leg of their journey toward a family vacation in the Virgin Islands. The boy’s mother, grandmother and younger sibling were seated in first class, while the toddler and his dad sat in coach. While the plane was at the gate, the boy happily played with an iPad, but when the airline requested all electronic devices be turned off, the trouble started. The toddler was unhappy that his toy was taken away and his father couldn’t get him settled. Alaska Airlines spokesman Paul McElroy told MSNBC that flight attendants went to check on the father and the boy several times before departure to try to help calm the child, but Daniel was cranky and, like many 3-year-olds, wouldn’t sit up in the oversize seat and allow himself to be buckled in. In defense of the flight crew’s actions, McElroy noted that, “The [seat] belt was across his neck and the flight attendants were worried that he would begin to choke himself.” Yanchuk said he would never allow his son to get into such a precarious position.


The child was finally properly seated and the plane pulled back from the gate, but when a flight attendant noticed the child was lying sideways in the seat again, the captain was notified and the plane returned to the gate. Yanchuk and his son were then asked to leave the plane. His wife, mother-in-law, and 1-year-old child opted to leave as well. Their baggage, however, was able to continue on to the Virgin Islands.

Airline spokesman McElroy said, “Everybody wanted to make this work, just trying to work with the child and get him to sit upright.” Yanchuk disagrees. “I think they overreacted. I know you get kicked off planes for dangerous situations like not wearing a seat belt or running around or something dangerous. But I didn’t see the situation as being dangerous at all,” Yanchuk told MSNBC.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/06/02/3-year-old-kicked-off-airplane-for-crying/




I empathize with parents dealing with unruly kids, but I gotta say, I wish someone had taken the screamer off the last flight I was on! Talk about torture--if I were a spy and had the "secret code" I would have given it up to make that kid stop!!



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Good for the flight crew MadHound Jun 2012 #1
I wonder if something as wrong with the kid treestar Jun 2012 #2
The plane can't take off because the kid wasn't sitting in his seat properly MadHound Jun 2012 #4
OK. Though still how come Dad had such a problem? treestar Jun 2012 #10
That's an issue for the family if the dad couldn't get him to sit up tammywammy Jun 2012 #13
why take offense? treestar Jun 2012 #16
No offense taken tammywammy Jun 2012 #18
"It is the Dad's problem and it's strange he could not fix it somehow. " cleanhippie Jun 2012 #33
Who knows, MadHound Jun 2012 #14
Do you have kids? Skidmore Jun 2012 #19
No though I've had several in my life treestar Jun 2012 #21
You are right. I had six and sometimes nothing works. I have virgogal Jun 2012 #22
They took his toy away. Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #44
at 3, the kid's carseat should be installed on the plane tabbycat31 Jun 2012 #50
It wasn't that the kid was screaming tammywammy Jun 2012 #7
Sounds to me like there is something wrong with his parents. I must have missed the memo Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #45
Your headline is incorrect. They were kicked off because the child wasn't properly seated and belted Beaverhausen Jun 2012 #3
Blame TIME, not me! I cut and pasted it right from the article! nt MADem Jun 2012 #25
Misleading headline proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #5
Yep--Time.com needs to fire the headline writer. NT MADem Jun 2012 #26
This problem is running rampant in the media these days. TheManInTheMac Jun 2012 #55
bullshit headline... ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2012 #6
+1 n/t tammywammy Jun 2012 #8
Sex sells!! Er....well, any kind of drama sells! MADem Jun 2012 #28
Yeah, but 'not following safety procedures' isn't a juicy headline. eom tawadi Jun 2012 #36
Having travelled with my own kids when they were very young, SheilaT Jun 2012 #9
Good point. It would have been easier if the parents had treestar Jun 2012 #11
My oldest actually flew somewhat frequently SheilaT Jun 2012 #61
+1 ... parental failure. Auggie Jun 2012 #12
Never had it happen on a plane... FreeJoe Jun 2012 #15
The airline offered them the same flight for the next day tammywammy Jun 2012 #20
Very nice of the airline FreeJoe Jun 2012 #24
Well, at least their luggage will have some sun and surf. Darth_Kitten Jun 2012 #54
Unruly, screaming people of ANY age are a safety issue on an airplane. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #17
I recently endured a long flight with a wailing child... MADem Jun 2012 #29
Why not a book or coloring book for the plane taking off? obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #23
A book would work, or a little non-electronic toy MADem Jun 2012 #31
At least the plane wasn't in the air when they kicked him off. n/t Ian David Jun 2012 #27
LOL! Reminds me of this scene! Quixote1818 Jun 2012 #32
Ha ha ha--love the boxing gloves...and the GUN! nt MADem Jun 2012 #39
Tough call. I probably would have let it go Quixote1818 Jun 2012 #30
The job of the flight crew, though, is passenger safety and adhering to FAA requirements. MADem Jun 2012 #37
Good points. My sister use to be a flight attendant Quixote1818 Jun 2012 #41
I also have family in the airline industry so I routinely get an earful about MADem Jun 2012 #47
Hopefully it was a good lesson for the kid and maybe even the parents. Quixote1818 Jun 2012 #49
Maybe the 3 year old was the one to put in First Class treestar Jun 2012 #42
Hard to know--maybe they were doing it on the cheap MADem Jun 2012 #46
Sounds claustrophobic. treestar Jun 2012 #48
Wonder if this would have happened if the mother was with the child tawadi Jun 2012 #34
I know--she was in First Class with the younger kid and granny! nt MADem Jun 2012 #40
"I wish someone had taken the screamer off the last flight I was on!" KansDem Jun 2012 #35
Ha ha!! That's kind of funny, in a torturous way! MADem Jun 2012 #38
FAA regulations discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #43
I tried that on my wife one time Major Nikon Jun 2012 #58
Stupid of them to allow the luggage to stay on. A MAJOR security breech! Logical Jun 2012 #51
Just more poor writing discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #59
The worry is that someone throws a fit or gets their kid to cry so that they can get off the jet.... Logical Jun 2012 #62
It would seem easier... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #65
If you check your luggage and do not get on the plane they remove your luggage. Logical Jun 2012 #66
I've not seen that. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #71
"like many three year olds?" I don't think so. demosincebirth Jun 2012 #52
True, otherwise all those 3 year olds would get thrown off too treestar Jun 2012 #57
It must suck to be 3 years old and have your iPad taken away from you. Darth_Kitten Jun 2012 #53
lol obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #56
I still don't have one of those things! I've survived! nt MADem Jun 2012 #63
I still don't have a flatscreen monitor for my computer; little Lord iPad can... Darth_Kitten Jun 2012 #67
The parents should have picked something different for him to play with Nikia Jun 2012 #60
BINGO! You win the thread--pity you weren't the kid's parent on that plane! nt MADem Jun 2012 #64
I was on a trans-atlantic flight one time and avebury Jun 2012 #68
Cool. How come your story didn't hit the Associated Press? Darth_Kitten Jun 2012 #70
Sounds like the kid is a spoiled brat. roamer65 Jun 2012 #69
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