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mrmpa

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Tue Feb 16, 2016, 02:24 PM Feb 2016

My 96 hour ordeal in getting a prescription for my 85 year old mom........ [View all]

This past Friday I took my mom for an appointment at the wound care center. She has a large open wound on her leg caused by vascular disease, she is not diabetic.

The Doctor prescribed "Santyl" and faxed it to a pharmacy they say gets it for their patients at usually about $40. It's not a pharmacy that I would go to, it is locally owned and has a good reputation, but it is a bit out of the way. I checked the price on goodrx.com and found the lowest price about $212 @ the local Walmart Pharmacy. So I figured the $40 cost was of course utilizing a person's insurance.

Now my mom has Pacenet (A Pennsylvania program for seniors with a certain income). Now this insurance is $40 a month, with $8 copays for generic medications and $15 for name brand. I do not allow my mother to utilize the Pacenet as most of her medications are never more than $25 for a 3 month supply and Pacenet does not allow for a 3 month supply to be dispensed. Mom understands this and knows that Pacenet is only to be used when she needs a name brand and the cost is very high. Which in this case we will use it. The cost to mom should be $80 ($40 for insurance premium for January & February) and $15 for the medicine.

I go to the pharmacy on Saturday, give them mom's Pacenet card and learn that Pennsylvania does not cover medications from this manufacturer. Now understand there is only one manufacturer of this drug, world wide. As the Doctor wrote the prescription for a volume of 60, mom will need 2 tubes of this ointment, so now the cost at this drug store is $500 (though it will match the Wallmart price). However $424 is still something my mom can't afford.

I go home do my research & find that there is another drug "xenaderm" which is similar to "Santyl" but at 25% of the cost, $62. I called the Doctor's office on Monday and was told that "xenaderm" is an excellent substitute and they called the prescription into the Walmart Pharmacy. Closer to me and $62 is the goodrx.com price at Walmart.

I called Pacenet offices and learned that the manufacturer of "Santyl" refuses to participate in the Pacenet Program. They gave me the name of the company that makes "Santyl" and I called that company, it was recently bought by another company. I told the company service representative, Martha, that I was not happy that they would not work with the PA program and that they were forcing many seniors to pay for medication that was too costly for those on a very fixed income. I was very nice and informed her that I would be letting my State Senator know about the unwillingness of this manufacturer to work with Pennsylvania.

After I get off the phone with Martha, the Doctor's office calls us & tells us that Walmart is having difficulty finding "xenaderm". I call the local pharmacy and ask if they can locate it, they check their distributor and they can't find it. I then do my research and learn that the manufacturer of "xenaderm" is the same manufacturer of "santyl".

I called Martha back, left a voice mail and told her I need to have "xenaderm" available in Pennsylvania, so my mom can get it. Martha promptly called me back and informed me that they discontinued manufacturing "xenaderm". The light bulb went off in my head. I incredulously asked "so you discontinued the less expensive medication (the medication that gets better consumer ratings) in order to sell only the more expensive drug? I continued with comparing her company to the NYC exec who upped the price on the $1.50 pill to $750. I continued with and you have the audactity not to work with insurance programs run by States." I also informed her that not only will my State Senator get an email about this, but also my US Senator will.

I called Walmart and told them that I learned that "xenaderm" is discontinued by the manufacturer. The Tech was great, she said to give her a few minutes to look something up. She directed me to the Santyl.com web page, where there is a coupon worth $50 toward the purchase of "Santyl" and the company will pick up the next $150. I called the local pharmacy and told them what I had learned. The pharmacist told me they could take the coupon but it would be about $200, since mom needed 2 tubes. I said no, I'll take one tube today, $50, I'll pick up the 2nd tube next week, $50. And that's what I did.

Doctor's office called this morning & said she ordered something with the Home Health Care Agency. I told her to rescind that order, as I had taken care of the matter and "Santyl" was in the house.

This was an ordeal that no one should have to go through. I'm 59 and it was a headache for me, I just wonder how many people my mother's age, don't have an advocate and paid full price for this drug. Also I don't see the $150 the company pays for this drug as "corporate care, or corporate giving back". I think that the drug's real cost is far from $500, it's just a price they wanted to charge for it. They don't have to research it, as it was developed by the company they bought out. I think this company just sees an uptake in the need for this ointment and is trying to make a quick buck.

If I sound cynical, I'll admit that I am.

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Ain't free market capitalism great? Wounded Bear Feb 2016 #1
Just so you know......... mrmpa Feb 2016 #2
FWIW, BOTH Democratic candidates intend to FIX this. Hortensis Feb 2016 #22
... AzDar Feb 2016 #40
There is more bad news on the horizon. NWProf Feb 2016 #46
Nonsense to the last. I really don't think any of us Hortensis Feb 2016 #51
Obama's term has been damaging to billionaires? Doctor_J Feb 2016 #64
And sadly yours, Doctor J. You might investigate, Hortensis Feb 2016 #70
Hillary has done her work. Thanks. riversedge Feb 2016 #53
Yes, she's an impressive alternative to the GOP idiots. :) Hortensis Feb 2016 #71
Nope. Both say they will fix it. Only one actually intends to follow through kristopher Feb 2016 #65
^^^this!^^^ peacebird Feb 2016 #5
Free market capitalism? Really? Plappergeist Feb 2016 #12
crapitalism. we are to be milked for maximum profit. ferrari's ain't cheap. + yachts. pansypoo53219 Feb 2016 #17
Post Office. nt clarice Feb 2016 #39
K&R abelenkpe Feb 2016 #3
We deal with similar problems EmperorHasNoClothes Feb 2016 #4
My hubby was in germany last week, business, had a heart prob & was admitted to cardiac iCU peacebird Feb 2016 #6
We know what it will take, a switch to a system used by real first world counties Dragonfli Feb 2016 #13
Huge +1! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #47
Thank you for being your mother's advocate. No Vested Interest Feb 2016 #7
So true. Laffy Kat Feb 2016 #78
I've had similar go-rounds with UPMC insurance. femmocrat Feb 2016 #8
Could you supply me the name of the manufactures? MagickMuffin Feb 2016 #9
The original manufacturer was........ mrmpa Feb 2016 #45
Right, but at least the government isn't getting between your mom and her doctor! Brickbat Feb 2016 #10
Wait, the government is *exactly* getting between the mom and her doctor Recursion Feb 2016 #84
That nightmare is why I refuse to enroll in Medicare Part D. Vinca Feb 2016 #11
You only need to see at most a year into the future, SheilaT Feb 2016 #27
penalty? really? LittleGirl Feb 2016 #43
Part D late enrollment penalty Sentath Feb 2016 #54
very nice of you to provide the link LittleGirl Feb 2016 #55
People REALLY need to be aware of that penalty. SheilaT Feb 2016 #57
ugh LittleGirl Feb 2016 #69
I have to pay the damn penalty. It's about $22 a month. Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #82
I am sorry to hear that. SheilaT Feb 2016 #85
Thank the Repukes... WhiteTara Feb 2016 #60
absolutely! eom LittleGirl Feb 2016 #68
Vinca, is that $35 per week I hope? Hortensis Feb 2016 #30
It's $35 a year. Vinca Feb 2016 #34
30% negoldie Feb 2016 #37
That's awful. I've just accepted the fact that we don't live forever. Vinca Feb 2016 #41
Interesting passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #36
Sorry for all your trouble Faux pas Feb 2016 #14
Wow... Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #15
Way to take care of your mom... panader0 Feb 2016 #16
Man, am I glad I'm not on any regular meds. blackspade Feb 2016 #18
The only answer to this is Single-Payer Healthcare with the government setting price controls on Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #19
Huge +1! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #48
Ummm... that's exactly what the OP's mother has, isn't it? Recursion Feb 2016 #75
Part D drugs are not price controlled and many drugs are not covered at all under apart D. Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #83
Americans pay through the nose for medicine. Bad Dog Feb 2016 #20
Mine is similar but with Astra Zenica bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #21
You have every right to be cynical.... daleanime Feb 2016 #23
The problem is that many are elderly and are not sure bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #79
Holy cow. What a horrible experience. blue neen Feb 2016 #24
No cost for Pace............. mrmpa Feb 2016 #32
You can use coupons because I did at Walmart and I'm on D. bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #80
There are definitely some drug company coupons you can't use if you're on Medicare Part D. blue neen Feb 2016 #81
Before they closed the medicare part D loophole I once had to pay $1400 for a prescription for my 87 kimbutgar Feb 2016 #25
I admire you because I know what this is like. KentuckyWoman Feb 2016 #26
Good lord. You are a saint and a peace maker. 7wo7rees Feb 2016 #28
You're not cynical, only realistic. Duppers Feb 2016 #29
Yes, everyone needs an advocate! peace13 Feb 2016 #31
Sadly, it's not unusual Tab Feb 2016 #33
Just two questions: Act_of_Reparation Feb 2016 #35
From everything I have learned, the only 2 drugs available are......... mrmpa Feb 2016 #44
Oh, I forgot to say Tab Feb 2016 #38
i have to take antivirals for what would be severe-moderate ME redruddyred Feb 2016 #42
Yes... malokvale77 Feb 2016 #49
Thank you, mrmpa, for writing this up! Peace Patriot Feb 2016 #50
Predatory Capitalism sucks! B Calm Feb 2016 #52
This looks interesting Sentath Feb 2016 #56
That's the sight I went to and .......... mrmpa Feb 2016 #58
If you aren't cynical by the age of 59 Flying Squirrel Feb 2016 #59
NBC news just had a feature on a company phylny Feb 2016 #61
You nailed it in one sentence, and not just about drug prices, the insurance system in general. MH1 Feb 2016 #62
Medical ins cos are ticks. They are parasitic disease vectors. Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #86
The insurance and drug companies now have a foothold in the government Doctor_J Feb 2016 #63
between this kind of BS and the "war on drugs" painkiller hysteria, it's impossible for people to TheFrenchRazor Feb 2016 #66
thank you for calling out the painkiller hysteria nashville_brook Feb 2016 #72
Forced to buy "insurance" from a predatory organization awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #67
She has Medicare and Pacenet Recursion Feb 2016 #77
time to nationalize it dembotoz Feb 2016 #73
Rec Wednesdays Feb 2016 #74
And this is the system we want to extend to the whole country (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #76
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