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12. Clearly 99.9999 was hyperbole; it's 2% of national costs

Reply to Warren Stupidity (Reply #11)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 11:25 AM

Feb 2016

http://newsroom.acep.org/fact_sheets?item=29928

And that counts the trips to the ER that aren't actually emergencies (8%, according to ACEP).

So, if the actual emergency room doctors are to be believed, slightly less than 2% of national healthcare spending is on actual emergency care. I don't know anybody who has quantified what percent of treatments (which would be hard to define to begin with) are emergencies. You might ask yourself how many times you have gone to the ER vs. your other interactions with the medical system.

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How to Cut Your Health-Care Bill: Pay Cash [View all] Recursion Feb 2016 OP

Completely broken system, ridiculous article. Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #1

I've always found that argument ridiculous Recursion Feb 2016 #4

I shopped around for my orthodontist services when I needed braces jamzrockz Feb 2016 #10

99.9999 not ER? Care to back that up? Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #11

Clearly 99.9999 was hyperbole; it's 2% of national costs Recursion Feb 2016 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Feb 2016 #19

seeing the discounts associated with insureance this sounds like bs to me dembotoz Feb 2016 #2

Our problem with healthcare is one of price discovery Recursion Feb 2016 #5

........ daleanime Feb 2016 #3

As always, the answer to financial problems is "have more money" Orrex Feb 2016 #6

For some people, sure Recursion Feb 2016 #7

Of course that only works if they know about it in advance Orrex Feb 2016 #8

People really overstate how much medical expenses are unexpected Recursion Feb 2016 #9

That's foolish. You're telling people to plan only for a best-case scenario Orrex Feb 2016 #13

The unexpected costs are why we have insurance Recursion Feb 2016 #15

Again, the advice is "have more money" Orrex Feb 2016 #16

. Iggo Feb 2016 #27

Insurers are not trying to save you money. bemildred Feb 2016 #14

They don't even seem to be trying to save *themselves* money Recursion Feb 2016 #21

High prices increase their cut. Duh. bemildred Feb 2016 #23

So, I should pause my heart attack and negotiate prices first? Wounded Bear Feb 2016 #17

Of course not. Orrex Feb 2016 #18

FFS this is such a ridiculous strawman Recursion Feb 2016 #20

If you can't see it... Wounded Bear Feb 2016 #22

So, nothing? Recursion Feb 2016 #24

I've read three specific answers to that particular question in this thread. LanternWaste Feb 2016 #25

Can you point to them? I see "ZOMG PEOPLE ARE TOO POOR TO PAY FOR IT" Recursion Feb 2016 #26

My daughter cost $5,000 a pound. jeff47 Feb 2016 #28

So, UCSF did a study last year Recursion Feb 2016 #29

Because they are not known-in-advance costs. jeff47 Feb 2016 #30

Well, hell, having insurance is also unworkable for anyone who isn't wealthy Recursion Feb 2016 #31

Golly, it's almost like we need a single-payer system. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #32

That wouldn't fix price discrepancies (in some ways it makes them worse) Recursion Feb 2016 #33

Only if that single-payer system can not negotiate. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #34

If Medicare can't, why would a universal system be able to? Recursion Feb 2016 #35

Because Medicare doesn't negotiate much. jeff47 Feb 2016 #36

Did you even bother to google? Recursion Feb 2016 #37

Before I had insurance I had to pre-pay for operations csziggy Feb 2016 #38

Personal experience says .... GeorgeGist Feb 2016 #39