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Recursion

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29. So, UCSF did a study last year
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 12:32 PM
Feb 2016
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2014/01/111071/how-much-does-it-cost-have-baby-hospital

Without complications, a vaginal birth can range from $3000 to $37,000, and a C-section can range from $8000 to $71,000. And that's the insurance price, without the "cheaper if you pay cash" effect.

Why shouldn't that be something the hospital tells you when you're choosing a hospital? Not everybody can afford $8000, but then again a lot of people can for a one-time, known-in-advance cost like that.

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Completely broken system, ridiculous article. Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #1
I've always found that argument ridiculous Recursion Feb 2016 #4
I shopped around for my orthodontist services when I needed braces jamzrockz Feb 2016 #10
99.9999 not ER? Care to back that up? Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #11
Clearly 99.9999 was hyperbole; it's 2% of national costs Recursion Feb 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Feb 2016 #19
seeing the discounts associated with insureance this sounds like bs to me dembotoz Feb 2016 #2
Our problem with healthcare is one of price discovery Recursion Feb 2016 #5
........ daleanime Feb 2016 #3
As always, the answer to financial problems is "have more money" Orrex Feb 2016 #6
For some people, sure Recursion Feb 2016 #7
Of course that only works if they know about it in advance Orrex Feb 2016 #8
People really overstate how much medical expenses are unexpected Recursion Feb 2016 #9
That's foolish. You're telling people to plan only for a best-case scenario Orrex Feb 2016 #13
The unexpected costs are why we have insurance Recursion Feb 2016 #15
Again, the advice is "have more money" Orrex Feb 2016 #16
. Iggo Feb 2016 #27
Insurers are not trying to save you money. bemildred Feb 2016 #14
They don't even seem to be trying to save *themselves* money Recursion Feb 2016 #21
High prices increase their cut. Duh. bemildred Feb 2016 #23
So, I should pause my heart attack and negotiate prices first? Wounded Bear Feb 2016 #17
Of course not. Orrex Feb 2016 #18
FFS this is such a ridiculous strawman Recursion Feb 2016 #20
If you can't see it... Wounded Bear Feb 2016 #22
So, nothing? Recursion Feb 2016 #24
I've read three specific answers to that particular question in this thread. LanternWaste Feb 2016 #25
Can you point to them? I see "ZOMG PEOPLE ARE TOO POOR TO PAY FOR IT" Recursion Feb 2016 #26
My daughter cost $5,000 a pound. jeff47 Feb 2016 #28
So, UCSF did a study last year Recursion Feb 2016 #29
Because they are not known-in-advance costs. jeff47 Feb 2016 #30
Well, hell, having insurance is also unworkable for anyone who isn't wealthy Recursion Feb 2016 #31
Golly, it's almost like we need a single-payer system. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #32
That wouldn't fix price discrepancies (in some ways it makes them worse) Recursion Feb 2016 #33
Only if that single-payer system can not negotiate. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #34
If Medicare can't, why would a universal system be able to? Recursion Feb 2016 #35
Because Medicare doesn't negotiate much. jeff47 Feb 2016 #36
Did you even bother to google? Recursion Feb 2016 #37
Before I had insurance I had to pre-pay for operations csziggy Feb 2016 #38
Personal experience says .... GeorgeGist Feb 2016 #39
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