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11. Trump vs. Pope Francis
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:26 PM
Feb 2016

It's worth noting the pontiff addressed Congress last year and spoke of this very thing.

3. A call for the country to open its arms to immigrants and refugees: "I think of the march which Martin Luther King led from Selma to Montgomery 50 years ago as part of the campaign to fulfill his 'dream' of full civil and political rights for African-Americans. That dream continues to inspire us all. I am happy that America continues to be, for many, a land of 'dreams'. ... In recent centuries, millions of people came to this land to pursue their dream of building a future in freedom. We, the people of this continent, are not fearful of foreigners, because most of us were once foreigners. I say this to you as the son of immigrants, knowing that so many of you are also descended from immigrants." ...

"Our world is facing a refugee crisis of a magnitude not seen since the Second World War. This presents us with great challenges and many hard decisions. On this continent, too, thousands of persons are led to travel north in search of a better life for themselves and for their loved ones, in search of greater opportunities. Is this not what we want for our own children? ... Let us remember the Golden Rule: 'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you'. ... The yardstick we use for others will be the yardstick which time will use for us."

His reference to the Golden Rule was Francis' biggest applause line. Members of Congress didn't even let him get out the rule itself before giving him a standing ovation.
http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/09/24/443081898/the-10-most-political-moments-in-pope-francis-address-to-congress


Which went over about as expected with the RW.

Conservatives Trash The Pope After His Speech To Congress

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out with Trumps fans, but I'm not willing to bet my money it will generate any substantial blow back within his fan base.

What it could do is create more of a tool for the other candidates to use to make themselves stand out. Rubio will use it to make him seem more appealing, but Cruz already took the Pope on over the death penalty, so not sure he'll get as much mileage out of it as Rubio stands to.

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No this rhetoric will only increase his support kimbutgar Feb 2016 #1
It won't hurt his support from the hard core bigots Major Nikon Feb 2016 #20
It's an attempt to polish his 'I'm a real christian' bona fides Volaris Feb 2016 #41
The people Trump is after aren't all that loyal to the pope Renew Deal Feb 2016 #2
Yeah they're the Catholics who... 47of74 Feb 2016 #24
Exactly. Pope Francis isn't very popular with conservative Catholics. phantom power Feb 2016 #55
Not just that. Many if not most aren't catholic Renew Deal Feb 2016 #56
Unfortunately... MrWendel Feb 2016 #3
yeah I dont see any problem Trump was just saying common knowledge anong the right Backwoodsrider Feb 2016 #4
Oh, the irony is in the fire now! Maeve Feb 2016 #5
Actually that is a very Protestant attitude exboyfil Feb 2016 #13
While I agree that it is a more Protestant attitude Maeve Feb 2016 #16
Evil playing cards! OOHH! Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #18
Evangelical United Brethren (EUB) Maeve Feb 2016 #23
a fellow eub er dembotoz Feb 2016 #29
good folk, I agree eom Maeve Feb 2016 #38
I have never heard of that denom. Are they common up North? Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #42
at least around here think german dembotoz Feb 2016 #53
Oh OK. I'm a long way from Pennsylvania. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #54
Expect a response from the UN malaise Feb 2016 #6
He was reading a statement! imanamerican63 Feb 2016 #7
Actually it appears completely consistent within exboyfil Feb 2016 #8
this will probably help him in the GOP primary 0rganism Feb 2016 #9
President Obama is using the Pope as a pawn? gratuitous Feb 2016 #10
Trump vs. Pope Francis herding cats Feb 2016 #11
"A call for the country to open its arms to immigrants and refugees" sure is not Trump. pampango Feb 2016 #34
Trump wants U.S. torture to go beyond waterboarding. "I am proud to be a Christian." Peace Patriot Feb 2016 #12
What a campaign it would be if the GOP nominee is really Trump... book_worm Feb 2016 #14
Trump will bring out Jeffress and call the Pope and Catholics heretics CommonSenseDemocrat Feb 2016 #15
The people who support Il Douche already think any pope, hifiguy Feb 2016 #17
Trump will lose a good number of Catholic votes in the general eleny Feb 2016 #19
I dunno about that. 47of74 Feb 2016 #21
He's not the only one making those noises right now eleny Feb 2016 #46
i would like to personally thank the pope for calling out this piece of shite. spanone Feb 2016 #22
Vote for me and no one gets hurt, you ingrate losers. n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2016 #25
Only one thing can stop Trump now. Eating a puppy-burger on live TV. nt valerief Feb 2016 #26
The puppy was a loser dummy failure. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2016 #31
Ah not if he shot it and skinned it himself and added bacon . His numbers would rise IMO Person 2713 Feb 2016 #33
Well, of course, because it would self-defense. Only if it were a black dog, mind you. valerief Feb 2016 #35
His temper is going to do him in. elleng Feb 2016 #27
Like I have said, each day Trump will get more and more absurd, thus assuring randys1 Feb 2016 #28
how many rite wing catholics like pope frank? pansypoo53219 Feb 2016 #30
Attacking the "liberal" Pope will... Mike Nelson Feb 2016 #32
He sure sounds a lot like 2naSalit Feb 2016 #36
Trumptards generally hate the Pope Matrosov Feb 2016 #37
Naw, my crazy Catholic relatives will still vote for him. louis-t Feb 2016 #39
You may not remember the bigotry against Catholics TBF Feb 2016 #40
Like 1960. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #43
Very different cultures - TBF Feb 2016 #47
Yes, the hatred of immigrants and non-whites is now open instead of whispered. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #48
Is there a running list of the groups of people Trump has offended? RichGirl Feb 2016 #44
Nonsense - It works yuuugely among the "No Popery" SC crowd jpak Feb 2016 #45
You mean to tell me tRump wants to sic Daesh on the Pope? meow2u3 Feb 2016 #49
His poll numbers will go up by two points. briv1016 Feb 2016 #50
I'm expecting a 5 point bounce... brooklynite Feb 2016 #51
Trump's supporters appear impervious to saltpoint Feb 2016 #52
It says so right in 2 Corintheans. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #57
I actually heard a woman talking about First Corinthians on the train the other day KamaAina Feb 2016 #58
I wish, this will help him. Rex Feb 2016 #59
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