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HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 05:47 PM Feb 2016

Women Who Wear Pants: Still Somehow Controversial [View all]

Just ask a flight attendant. Or Hillary Clinton.
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2016/02/women_wearing_pants_are_still_controversial.html

"Female flight attendants at British Airways just spent two years fighting for the right to wear pants on the job—and they finally won. The airline crew’s union, Unite, celebrated the triumph earlier this month, saying, “Female cabin crew no longer have to shiver in the cold, wet and snow of wintery climates, but also can be afforded the protection of trousers at destinations where there is a risk of malaria or the Zika virus.” Good news all around! Unite also declared, “Not only is the choice to wear trousers a victory for equality it is also a victory for common sense.”

But wait. Isn’t the equal right to make the common-sense decision of wearing pants a victory that women had already won? (At British Airways, trousers have been accepted wear for established crew since 2003, but the airline has applied different rules to attendants hired since a set of strikes in 2010.) Why are we still talking about women’s right to pants? Like many of women’s battles, pants-related activism stretches back centuries and continues with no sign of abating in the present day.

In America, the first women to seek pants also sought power. In addition to suffrage, 19th-century feminists such as Elizabeth Cady Stanton advocated what they called “rational dress,” a costume with a short skirt over loose trousers that was pioneered by the activist Elizabeth Smith Miller. In 1851, Amelia Bloomer famously defended the pants against social ridicule in her newspaper, the Lily, the first “ladies’ journal” in U.S. history; thereafter, both the clothes and their wearers became known as “bloomers.” But the fashion’s run was short-lived. As Kathleen Cooper has noted in her excellent short history of women and pants at the Toast, “Prominent feminists were more concerned with gaining women’s rights than dress reform, and most of them dressed like ‘ladies’ to avoid detracting from their main cause of securing the vote.”

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When will we be finished advocating for women’s right to wear pants? Doesn’t men’s right to wear skirts deserve some love after all these centuries? At the Toast, Cooper suggests, “Men’s skirts are in the ‘ridicule’ stage now, just as trousers were on women 150 years ago.” Celebrities like Jaden Smith and Jared Leto have signaled an interest in this fashion-forward cause. Meanwhile, I fully intend to wear pants on my next flight, and I hope the crewmembers will have the option to do the same."



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Old ideas die slowly struggle4progress Feb 2016 #1
Oh, goodness. HuckleB Feb 2016 #4
"We really move our tails for you." Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #2
I often wear a kilt -- much more comfortable. n/t Dale Neiburg Feb 2016 #28
I've been fighting endlessly for years to get women out of skirts..or pants underpants Feb 2016 #3
Thank you for your service gratuitous Feb 2016 #14
And in doing so, continue to advertise your character. LanternWaste Feb 2016 #50
This kind of has more to do with social programming, in my view davidn3600 Feb 2016 #5
With us Millennials skirts are still gendered, but pants are not, anymore. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #25
The pants thing, I've never understood at all. Rex Feb 2016 #6
Oh, that reminds me... HuckleB Feb 2016 #7
Shorts!!!! Rex Feb 2016 #10
Southwest Airlines, Hot Pants Jim Beard Feb 2016 #49
At my last job, the CEO decided that nurses needed to wear consistent uniforms Warpy Feb 2016 #8
Yikes. HuckleB Feb 2016 #9
In most hospitals, if there's an issue with different types of staffers being confused... backscatter712 Feb 2016 #13
Yeah, it's not too difficult to accomplish. -eom- HuckleB Feb 2016 #19
And those nurse ratchet get ups are ultimately not sanitary nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #15
We were less kind about it Warpy Feb 2016 #17
They are still used nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #18
My mother wore them her whole career. malthaussen Feb 2016 #21
My mom told me they had different caps for different schools. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #31
I wore the whites and cap also Mojorabbit Feb 2016 #34
Not in critical care Warpy Feb 2016 #22
I am thinking abroad mostly nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #23
I worked pcu and icu and wore my whites and caps back in the stone age. nt Mojorabbit Feb 2016 #35
IMO a lot of this "confusion" is just old people ignorantly assuming that the man is the doctor... Odin2005 Feb 2016 #26
While I'm Sympathetic RobinA Feb 2016 #43
We solved it for them Warpy Feb 2016 #48
I frequently go out "in the field" to large facilities MissB Feb 2016 #11
+1,000 ... 000 HuckleB Feb 2016 #12
Was she some kind of Fundie kook? Odin2005 Feb 2016 #27
I HAVE HAD IT WITH THESE MTHFN PANTS ON THIS MTHFN PLANE Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #16
A great story, circa 1969: malthaussen Feb 2016 #20
+1,000... 000 HuckleB Feb 2016 #36
Ahhhh.... RobinA Feb 2016 #44
As a 30yo millennial I can't believe this is still an issue. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #24
I am 55, raised fundy Runningdawg Feb 2016 #29
I remember when we were first allowed to wear "pantsuits" (not just slacks) in valerief Feb 2016 #30
I had to wear a dress every day to school for 12 years. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #32
I had to wear dresses to school from 1949 to 1962. kskiska Feb 2016 #37
This was in South Texas, and we had hard freezes occasionally. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #38
In the 80's I was sent home from a temp job because I wore pants.. Glimmer of Hope Feb 2016 #33
Thank you qwlauren35 Feb 2016 #39
There are a few qwlauren35 Feb 2016 #40
I'm always shocked when I see a reference on DU noamnety Feb 2016 #41
It is just bizarre. HuckleB Feb 2016 #42
My guess is that she wears pants for the same reasons TexasBushwhacker Feb 2016 #47
Most of them look pretty cool, but I don't know if she picked out this one or her fashion peeps snooper2 Feb 2016 #52
I hereby call for a boycott of all pants. Orrex Feb 2016 #45
Well, skinny jeans, anyway! HuckleB Feb 2016 #46
Except For That Guy At The NBA All Star Game. . . ProfessorGAC Feb 2016 #51
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