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karynnj

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22. true, but in conjunction with insurance, not in lieu of it

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:27 AM

Feb 2016

Rubio follows in the path of other conservatives who suggest these accounts be used in additional to catastrophic health care unstable that pays only after a very large amount has already been paid. This is far different than any Democrat's plan.

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Health Savings Accounts: a tax-sheltered way to pay for quackery [View all] HuckleB Feb 2016 OP

HSAs also get used for traditional, science based medicine. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #1

Yes, they do. HuckleB Feb 2016 #2

I use them all the time RockaFowler Feb 2016 #3

You and many others. Which is why the baby-with-the-bathwater tone of the article seems Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #4

Perhaps you should read the entire article before judging it. -eom- HuckleB Feb 2016 #5

true, but in conjunction with insurance, not in lieu of it karynnj Feb 2016 #22

And I put $2k in at the beginning of every year... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #12

Bankruptcy. HuckleB Feb 2016 #13

Yep, I agree... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #14

I stop by to have lunch with the accounts payable person assigned to me at the clinic. HuckleB Feb 2016 #15

Yes. Glasses, dentist bills Liberal_in_LA Feb 2016 #25

Yeah well when this country is no longer a plutocracy I will worry about that. Rex Feb 2016 #6

Yeah, let's keep letting things get worse. HuckleB Feb 2016 #7

Who is letting things get worse? You and I or the people in charge. Get real here. Rex Feb 2016 #8

Well, for the past five years, employer insurance has paid for all sorts of non-standard treatments. haele Feb 2016 #9

Employees are not treated well in this country, no doubt. HuckleB Feb 2016 #11

For most people, they can't put enough in a health savings account to pay for anything shraby Feb 2016 #10

So what? Egnever Feb 2016 #16

So you didn't read the link. HuckleB Feb 2016 #17

I read it Egnever Feb 2016 #18

You didn't read it. HuckleB Feb 2016 #19

LOL Egnever Feb 2016 #20

I have reality, and honesty. HuckleB Feb 2016 #21

The whole idea behind tax breaks is to encourage things that benefit society Major Nikon Feb 2016 #23

+1,000 ... 000 HuckleB Feb 2016 #24

What utter bullshit CommonSenseDemocrat Feb 2016 #26

Is paying someone to pray for you a medical expense? Major Nikon Feb 2016 #29

That is nowhere in your link. CommonSenseDemocrat Feb 2016 #30

It's listed quite clearly on the link I provided Major Nikon Feb 2016 #31

Still not cited. I see nowhere in your link Christian Science being covered CommonSenseDemocrat Feb 2016 #34

Control-F is your friend Major Nikon Feb 2016 #35

That's nice, still not there CommonSenseDemocrat Feb 2016 #36

You also said conclusively, "HSA's cannot be used to pay for non medical expenses" Major Nikon Feb 2016 #37

They cannot be. I've never backtracked. What you are saying is very outrageous. CommonSenseDemocrat Feb 2016 #39

So asserting that praying for someone isn't medical treatment is outrageous bigotry Major Nikon Feb 2016 #40

Christ, nowhere does it say praying is a medical expense CommonSenseDemocrat Feb 2016 #46

There are no licensed medical professionals in the Church of Christ, Scientist. progressoid Feb 2016 #49

And those are not covered CommonSenseDemocrat Feb 2016 #50

Actually, "Various U.S. federal, state, and private health insurance plans provide for the reimburse progressoid Feb 2016 #58

Nonsense Major Nikon Feb 2016 #65

On page #7 of that very IRS pulblication....... WillowTree Feb 2016 #78

Not only that, these quacks claim their "treatment" is more effective... Major Nikon Feb 2016 #84

Please don't misunderstand me here. WillowTree Feb 2016 #92

Read the article in the OP, and get back to us. HuckleB Feb 2016 #93

I did. Every word. I'll still stand by my own opinions. WillowTree Feb 2016 #94

I'm not buying it. HuckleB Feb 2016 #98

In what way? WillowTree Feb 2016 #99

So.........You seem to be comfortable implying that I'm being disingenuous, but..... WillowTree Feb 2016 #100

I was off line. HuckleB Feb 2016 #101

Ah, but I did. WillowTree Feb 2016 #104

I'm all for people spending their money on whatever quackery they want Major Nikon Feb 2016 #95

How does someone paying their own money....... WillowTree Feb 2016 #96

One person's tax benefit is a tax burden on everyone else Major Nikon Feb 2016 #97

No, you said that Major Nikon Feb 2016 #52

I disagree and don't accept with what you're asserting CommonSenseDemocrat Feb 2016 #54

I could really care less if you accept it or not Major Nikon Feb 2016 #56

And I'm pointing out the value of yours CommonSenseDemocrat Feb 2016 #57

Sure, and pointing out Christian Science is quackery is just like the Donald hating on the Muslims Major Nikon Feb 2016 #62

This one has taken denialism to a whole other level! cleanhippie Feb 2016 #61

You just need faith Major Nikon Feb 2016 #63

Or willful ignorance cleanhippie Feb 2016 #64

Those two things go together like drunk and disorderly Major Nikon Feb 2016 #66

On DU it's not uncommon to see someone choose willfull ignorance when facts disagree with them cleanhippie Feb 2016 #60

Some even elevate the practice to performance art Major Nikon Feb 2016 #71

it's a performance, alright. Art, not so much. cleanhippie Feb 2016 #76

Prove your assertions with the same level of evidence provided ... HuckleB Feb 2016 #33

Don't wait up Major Nikon Feb 2016 #43

I gave you an entire thread that debunked what you were saying CommonSenseDemocrat Feb 2016 #47

Yeah, you claimed Christian Science quacks were actually licensed by the state Major Nikon Feb 2016 #59

K&R (NT) ghostsinthemachine Feb 2016 #27

Why people ignore corporate "science" AxionExcel Feb 2016 #28

Nice conspiracy derp. HuckleB Feb 2016 #32

It's tragic how some people cling to their "beliefs" AxionExcel Feb 2016 #45

Sure, anyone who calls Christian "Science" quackery MUST be a pawn of big pharma Major Nikon Feb 2016 #67

Being against big pharma is not conspiracy theory CommonSenseDemocrat Feb 2016 #51

Perhaps not, but it's a great start Major Nikon Feb 2016 #68

Thank you for the dose of common sense AxionExcel Feb 2016 #72

So buy into all forms of anti-science quackery? HuckleB Mar 2016 #106

HSAs: More admission of the American health system's disgraceful failure. HughBeaumont Feb 2016 #38

This a valid criticism of the HSA model, not what the OP is talking about CommonSenseDemocrat Feb 2016 #53

Perhaps I'm missing something here....... WillowTree Feb 2016 #85

There are a couple of really easy, good uses for FSA ... LannyDeVaney Feb 2016 #41

This piece is based on the incorrect assumption latebloomer Feb 2016 #42

+1 the same people who say alternative medicine is a quack CommonSenseDemocrat Feb 2016 #48

People who twist themselves into pretzels to defend alternative medicine... Major Nikon Feb 2016 #73

Are you a RationalWiki poster? CommonSenseDemocrat Feb 2016 #80

Honesty and logic. I guess you find those things appalling. HuckleB Feb 2016 #82

I find RationalWiki lame CommonSenseDemocrat Feb 2016 #88

It doesn't like your fantasies, so no one is surprised. HuckleB Feb 2016 #90

RationalWiki is fantasy CommonSenseDemocrat Feb 2016 #103

Well the source here "seems to think" Christian Science Practitioners are licensed by the state Major Nikon Feb 2016 #105

I hear that from time to time Major Nikon Feb 2016 #91

Nice logical fallacy you got there. HuckleB Feb 2016 #79

The lack of understanding of HSA regulations is embarrassing CommonSenseDemocrat Feb 2016 #81

I'm glad to see you acknowledge that reality. HuckleB Feb 2016 #83

You all think religious services are covered, which is hogwash CommonSenseDemocrat Feb 2016 #86

And you go to making things up. HuckleB Feb 2016 #89

Do you know what they call alternative medicine that's been proved to work? Medicine. progressoid Feb 2016 #55

If that were true, it wouldn't be called alternate medicine Major Nikon Feb 2016 #69

The quacks are adding on to this... Archae Feb 2016 #44

HSAs are mostly used for traditional medicine, and are needed now more than ever. Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #70

"mostly" being the key word Major Nikon Feb 2016 #74

In general, if you can get a physician to sign a letter of medical necessity it is not quackery. Yo_Mama Feb 2016 #75

I have no doubt that you are correct Major Nikon Feb 2016 #77

They can also pay for deductibles. dilby Feb 2016 #87

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