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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:41 PM Feb 2016

White Guilt is actually White Narcissism [View all]

https://medium.com/%40emmalindsay/white-guilt-is-actually-white-narcissism-ac6a29e9e995

Despite being raised in a highly liberal “progressive” environment, I learned some toxic things around race relations. One was that it was unacceptable for me to state, plainly, my observations or questions around race so I kept quiet on topics that confused me. I learned there were certain things I was “allowed” to say, and certain things I wasn’t “allowed” to say, and these rules seemed arbitrary. I also learned that white people would say things they weren’t “allowed” to say when they were around other white people, but to repeat such things in larger groups was unacceptable and would lead to denial, and attacks on my person. I also grew to feel that I was inherently bad because a) I was personally blamed for repeating racist things from my environment and I lacked the maturity to understand where these ideas were coming from and b) I was implicitly included in groups that were obviously exhibiting racist behavior, so I assumed I was like them....

And, I think that’s basically the current state of the liberal community. We have reached the point that many white people are loudly, and vocally expressing their support of progressive stances around race relations. Sometimes when this is highlighted people are assumed to be acting on “white guilt” but I think that is a misnomer. Guilt implies an understanding of the harm you have caused someone, and a desire to act in a way to mitigate its effects. I think a closer definition, and I mean no offense by this, would be “white narcissism.” Narcissistic behavior (at least as I understand it from reading the last psychiatrist) is basically defined as behaving in ways to create a positive story about ones self in order to maintain high self image. So, if someone volunteers at a homeless shelter so she can tell herself and others what a good person she is, she is acting out of narcissism. Which, to some degree is fine (she’s still volunteering, right?)

However, narcissism is usually a cover for a fundamentally poor self image. Someone who secretly believes she is a bad person will be more motivated to do things to convince herself she’s a good person. Additionally, when confronted with evidence that something she did makes her a bad person, she is likely to act out in rage or denial (see narcissistic rage). The big problem with white narcissism, is while it may motivate some positive behavior, it also serves as a massive defense system that preserves subconscious racist behaviors.

To summarize: many progressive white people, deep down, probably worry they are racist due to their upbringing. This is painful to them, especially given our complete societal ostracization of racists, and they don’t want to believe it. So, they act in many ways to counter this on a high level (expressing anti racist views, shaming other people perceived as racist, maybe protesting or something, etc.) and then convince themselves that they aren’t racist. However, if you call them out on behavior that points out that, in some ways, they’re acting racist they will refuse to absorb this information. They will deny it, say they were misinterpreted, get angry, maybe apologize without any deeper understanding of what they did, because it is painful for the to touch that place that secretly worries they might be racist.
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white privilege , white guilt , white narcissism saturnsring Feb 2016 #1
I know right flamingdem Feb 2016 #3
And all because you were born with a certain skin color and you can never change that fact. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #7
Yep. FLPanhandle Feb 2016 #9
at what point does posts like this become racist saturnsring Feb 2016 #11
Now, it's racist not to feel guilty about one's own race? FLPanhandle Feb 2016 #15
"talking about racism is as bad as racism itself..." LanternWaste Feb 2016 #19
Most fish are not conscious of the water they take for granted. LanternWaste Feb 2016 #18
and some people see ghosts saturnsring Feb 2016 #36
That's a really bad metaphor. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #40
You need to "GET FUCKING EDUCATED" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2016 #31
Damned if you do and damned if you don't alarimer Feb 2016 #2
My favorite is Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #6
You don't appreciate Kanye??? GummyBearz Feb 2016 #8
Actually, as of late I genuinely fear for his well-being and those around him. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #10
The 53MM thing is so weird GummyBearz Feb 2016 #12
Allegedly 40 million of that was invested in that "clothing" line of his. NobodyHere Feb 2016 #59
I see GummyBearz Feb 2016 #65
Just because he has 53 million dollars in debt NobodyHere Feb 2016 #67
Admit it, you were busted rappin' in the car snooper2 Feb 2016 #20
Actually -- Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #21
I caught some flack over Iggy Azalea too. NaturalHigh Feb 2016 #28
That article misses a few steps kcr Feb 2016 #16
Best to just ignore the race batters... TipTok Feb 2016 #49
Paying an obviously poor person's bill at the grocery store is an admirable thing to do. Nye Bevan Feb 2016 #4
+1 nt brer cat Feb 2016 #25
You get it. herding cats Feb 2016 #45
This is good, and this is hard. lapislzi Feb 2016 #5
Is this self-examination about me? The2ndWheel Feb 2016 #13
Frankly, I think everyone, Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #14
dead to irony Angel Martin Feb 2016 #61
What would be new about people behaving well Hortensis Feb 2016 #17
IMHO. OkSustainAg Feb 2016 #22
Bit of truth I would guess here, but a problem? whatthehey Feb 2016 #23
Self reflection easttexaslefty Feb 2016 #24
I'm sick of the racial politics Trajan Feb 2016 #26
BRILLIANT!! And bookmarked! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #27
I'm glad I don't feel guilty then. NaturalHigh Feb 2016 #29
Call me when you make up your mind ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2016 #30
These are good issues to think about. ananda Feb 2016 #32
That is precisely the issue: working together. But that is so-o-o-o boring. nt Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #34
Whew! I'm relieved to know it's just some kitchy, T.V.-oriented flip-off. Eleanors38 Feb 2016 #33
Wow are the replies in this thread sad. N/t gollygee Feb 2016 #35
Speaks volumes, doesn't it? KamaAina Feb 2016 #37
Seriously, I THOUGHT I joined a somewhat progressive forum pault420 Feb 2016 #48
DU has been quite illuminating lately Blasphemer Feb 2016 #50
They sure are... Last_Stand Feb 2016 #55
Ridiculous generalization malaise Feb 2016 #38
I thought the author was going somewhere else at first. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #52
I would put politics and religion in that same category. ShrimpPoboy Feb 2016 #54
It's societal. Cultural. Quantess Feb 2016 #39
HWHITE!!! BE AFRAID, IT'S AN EVIL HWHITE! Shandris Feb 2016 #41
So basically. romanic Feb 2016 #42
where in the USA has a "complete societal ostracization of racists" that is genuine and constant? bettyellen Feb 2016 #43
The Bay Area? KamaAina Feb 2016 #44
LOL, does not exist. bettyellen Feb 2016 #46
Well stated ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #47
Ahhh the iorny of these subthreads is hilarious. giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #51
Careful, now. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2016 #53
Nice attitude... n/t Last_Stand Feb 2016 #57
Thanks! Act_of_Reparation Feb 2016 #64
Nice armchair psychology... Last_Stand Feb 2016 #56
Of course. It's not real journalism. It's just some blog. Bonx Feb 2016 #58
Glad I don't suffer from white guilt. ileus Feb 2016 #60
You can't say "all white people... [fill in the blank]" and not be wrong about most Bucky Feb 2016 #62
Extreme selfishness and a disregard for the feelings of others ronnie624 Feb 2016 #63
"Each one must learn for himself the highest wisdom. It cannot be taught in words." Zorra Feb 2016 #66
I find White Pride and White Guilt equally absurd. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #68
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