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leftynyc

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38. I think it's amazing

Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:30 AM

Feb 2016

that you think the American people are going to make a distinction between a democratic socialist and a socialist. They've been tagging THIS President with the socialist label for 7 years and people buy it. There was a poll that said we'd sooner elect an atheist than a socialist.

There is something you don't seem to understand. Hillary (or Bernie) aren't going to be the sniveling cowards the republicans were when it comes to donald. There is a dumptruck of dirt on him they were too afraid to use. You simply have no idea what's coming his way but you can start by looking up Trump University = that case is winding its way through the courts right now. Anyone on the left who stays home because their candidate doesn't win the primary is a pathetic, whiny loser who I have zero respect for and when I see someone here saying it, I'm looking forward to the day they will have to leave DU because that's a banworthy offense.

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Okay. So what if it's Hillary against Trump? What happens? [View all] Kablooie Feb 2016 OP

No doubt in my mind that Hillary will win. Jim Beard Feb 2016 #1

The polls say she'd be trounced by Trump. Marr Feb 2016 #116

Agree Victor_c3 Feb 2016 #122

Lol, I thought Bernie supporters didn't believe in polls? cwydro Feb 2016 #136

I've never denied polling data, to my recollection. Marr Feb 2016 #139

She convincingly makes him look like an egotistical dunce. Problem is, a lot of people are Hoyt Feb 2016 #2

Hillary can destroy his candidacy with one question jmowreader Feb 2016 #3

actually, that could strengthen his candidacy 6chars Feb 2016 #6

Problem is, he can't achieve any of it jmowreader Feb 2016 #24

He's hollow suited. He can't achieve all of these lofty things he says to get the idiot factor RKP5637 Feb 2016 #54

In other words, Gordon Gekko with worse hair jmowreader Feb 2016 #83

Donald Trump, the Carrier CEO of politics LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2016 #85

Yep, exactly! So damn sad about Carrier! That was a proud name for years and years, now fucking over RKP5637 Feb 2016 #87

'If we are going to nominate someone who 50% of our people can't stand, elleng Feb 2016 #4

She may very well lose, and it won't be because Bernie supporters didn't fall in line. TDale313 Feb 2016 #5

Yep, I will vote for whomever the democratic nominee is, but that might not be enough. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #66

GOTV will be more important than ever - n/t RussBLib Feb 2016 #95

K&R!!! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #104

Trump is the devil they don't know who says everything he'll do will be great. DJ13 Feb 2016 #7

Yep, I've told people it's like American Idol, and Trump is the winning star. Many see Hillary RKP5637 Feb 2016 #64

A lot of angry people out there...very fluid if you ask me davidn3600 Feb 2016 #8

You are probably right. And Hillary is an icon establishment status quo candidate. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #56

That's a lot of what is going on. People are fed up and saying fuck it, something far different and RKP5637 Feb 2016 #59

Radical change.... Zing Zing Zingbah Feb 2016 #128

Most of the presidential hopefuls are an embarrassment to watch debate, a complete lack of maturity RKP5637 Feb 2016 #129

I agree. n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Feb 2016 #130

Republicans registered at an alarming rate in Nevada ripcord Feb 2016 #108

In the general election with 2 candidates, the party loyalists are irrelevant.... pipoman Feb 2016 #9

And motivating your base.... daleanime Feb 2016 #14

Clinton Is Beating Sanders by 9-10 Points and Beat Trump in 18 of Last 20 Polls Stallion Feb 2016 #17

Polls are a complete waste of time as has been demonstrated over and over.. pipoman Feb 2016 #19

Elections are sometimes like the stock market IMO. Sometimes unpredictable and often irrational. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #69

She'll have to tread carefully, he'll have a field day attacking her flamingdem Feb 2016 #10

Disagree on the tread lightly leftynyc Feb 2016 #32

They've attacked him plenty. And the pundits have laid it on him. Calista241 Feb 2016 #57

What exactly is the crime leftynyc Feb 2016 #74

There are plenty of people in jail for mishandling classified information Calista241 Feb 2016 #77

There really are NOT. Usually a genuine crime Hortensis Feb 2016 #97

Trump draws at best HALF the voters who Hortensis Feb 2016 #93

Haha well done flamingdem Feb 2016 #107

Why did tuna pop into my head. Gross no matter what. Hortensis Feb 2016 #111

You're right, I think Hillary is the right person and we saw her survive Benghazi flamingdem Feb 2016 #103

It only takes a few close states for Trump to win. Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #11

If I thought like you I'd be feeling so sick. I don't know how you Hortensis Feb 2016 #101

I don't feel inevitable despair or desperation. Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #132

I was in an irritable mood when I read your Hortensis Feb 2016 #134

Wow, talk about despair... Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #137

Voter irregularity states too, yikes nt flamingdem Feb 2016 #109

Bush "won" FL by a little over 500 votes. Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #115

Trump's negatives are higher than Hillary's and everybody knows both of them quite well world wide wally Feb 2016 #12

Hillary's opportunity: hit Trump's over-the-top blurbs Albertoo Feb 2016 #13

The most absurd General Election in History angrychair Feb 2016 #15

Nonsense. Hillary is a fine, competent candidate. Hortensis Feb 2016 #105

What happens is we get our asses out there and vote for HIllary... TreasonousBastard Feb 2016 #16

And third party for the GOP could be a big option, xmas74 Feb 2016 #43

No, Bernie and Donald far left and right. Hillary is too strong and a MODERATE liberal. Hortensis Feb 2016 #110

I have heard a few people discuss Bloomberg IRL, xmas74 Feb 2016 #124

Interesting observations, xmas. Sound like the kind of Hortensis Feb 2016 #126

No one is talking about the fiscal conservatives. xmas74 Feb 2016 #141

This message was self-deleted by its author applegrove Feb 2016 #18

Trump hits Hillary with all the stuff Bernie is too concerned for the future to bring up... Fumesucker Feb 2016 #20

Hillary will eviscerate him in debates, he will stump on how untrustworthy she is 0rganism Feb 2016 #21

What if Trump won't debate? CanonRay Feb 2016 #42

that's a setback for HRC, but not a serious one and it can be reversed 0rganism Feb 2016 #91

I can't imagine any Democrat voting for Trump, Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #22

If you spend any time on sites other than DU EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #28

You could be right. Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #30

It's a bit more complex than that EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #31

You didn't mention that donald leftynyc Feb 2016 #34

This is where you're mistaken EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #36

I think it's amazing leftynyc Feb 2016 #38

look at the data EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #40

He's been called a socialist leftynyc Feb 2016 #45

Edward either can't or won't learn how wrong he is. Hortensis Feb 2016 #117

Same old crap Andy823 Feb 2016 #96

let me list all of the legit counter arguements you made EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #99

I like this point Andy823 Feb 2016 #118

in fact EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #120

I can imagine people staying home in droves JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2016 #88

In my state we vote from home... Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #102

You should ask what will independents do? nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #23

Hillary loses... Ford F-150 Feb 2016 #25

Hillary will get crushed EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #26

I don't think Trump has the stamina or health to even make it through the republican primary, Sunlei Feb 2016 #27

Trump wins and the dnc thinks they need to move to right more. We can say we told you so. Cobalt Violet Feb 2016 #29

Oddly correct. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #55

Likely what could happen with the consistently flawed thinking and logic of the DNC and DWS. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2016 #71

Assuming that she is successful Fairgo Feb 2016 #33

what happens ? olddots Feb 2016 #35

I would happily vote for a ham sandwich or a potted ficus quaker bill Feb 2016 #37

Beating Trump is simple quaker bill Feb 2016 #39

I voted for a republican co-worker for county road com. Like Trump B Calm Feb 2016 #41

Hillary loses. This is the year of the outsider. Vinca Feb 2016 #44

Turnout. The Dems aren't turning out for the primaries but the Rs are WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #46

She would win... the Latino vote would decimate Trump Blasphemer Feb 2016 #47

In such a scenario, i suspect the "more entertaining" candidate will win. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #48

Sec Clinton will win easily, by as big, if not bigger, margin than Pres. Obama in '12 ... LannyDeVaney Feb 2016 #49

She loses... CanSocDem Feb 2016 #50

Trump wins. Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #51

Trump wins. That's what. notadmblnd Feb 2016 #52

Hillary can't win a GE. People who think the status quo is ok should decide if they like it enough GoneFishin Feb 2016 #53

That's what I think, that millions of people want radical change whatever that might bring, RKP5637 Feb 2016 #73

I do not like hillary, but hate the GOP, so will vote against them. Nt Logical Feb 2016 #58

I'm not going to make it until the GE......I'm sick, sick that this bozo IS EVEN in the conversation a kennedy Feb 2016 #60

I hear you DesertRat Feb 2016 #63

It doesn't look like anyone will beat Trump doc03 Feb 2016 #61

That's my fear too. He is brash and egotistical. A win might well feed this side of him to the RKP5637 Feb 2016 #65

If that nut gets elected he may burn down doc03 Feb 2016 #70

Hillary will win DesertRat Feb 2016 #62

First, David Brock (who some people here detest)... brooklynite Feb 2016 #67

Hillary wins unless she "slips on a banana peel" underpants Feb 2016 #68

My fear is that Dems stay home but Reps don't. Kablooie Feb 2016 #72

Most recent polling has Trump beating her, tho he still isn't marketing to a November audience Bucky Feb 2016 #75

Hopefully she wins. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2016 #76

One of the reasons I think people might vote for Hillary is that she wiggs Feb 2016 #78

Lots of Problems If That's the Match-up, IMO SDJay Feb 2016 #79

Democratic landslide. DavidDvorkin Feb 2016 #80

Bad things happen. jeff47 Feb 2016 #81

If those who are supporting BS don't vote or vote for Trump then their one of 2 things liberal N proud Feb 2016 #82

Spot on. Elmergantry Feb 2016 #84

After 8 years of a democratic White House, the repubs will be out in droves to vote this year. CrispyQ Feb 2016 #86

The country goes down the tubes. jwirr Feb 2016 #89

I'm afraid we are already draining down those tubes with or without Trump. Kablooie Feb 2016 #90

We GOTV. nt TeamPooka Feb 2016 #92

I leave the country, go live on a beach somewhere south of the border, Zorra Feb 2016 #94

Current polling data suggests HRC will beat Trump justiceischeap Feb 2016 #98

What happens? President Trump, that's what happens. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #100

IMHO - A Vote For HRC In The Primary Is A Vote For Trump In The General Election cantbeserious Feb 2016 #106

Either way we probably die dr60omg Feb 2016 #112

It'll be "Groundhog Day" yet again chapdrum Feb 2016 #113

two billionaires squaring off & accusing each other of bad deals wordpix Feb 2016 #114

Trump wins... TheProgressive Feb 2016 #119

People get used to saying "Madame President"? 11 Bravo Feb 2016 #121

Now why would they call Trump, Madame President? Kablooie Feb 2016 #133

I think she'll loose. easttexaslefty Feb 2016 #123

Trump will win if that's the case. EndElectoral Feb 2016 #125

It's a disaster either way. nt ladjf Feb 2016 #127

I don't know. But, I think it's safe to say that a lot of people are fed up with Politics-as-usual. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #131

Trump goes after the "independent" vote.... kentuck Feb 2016 #135

Say hello to President tRump madokie Feb 2016 #138

I think Current Affairs got this one right... Chan790 Feb 2016 #140