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In reply to the discussion: Okay. So what if it's Hillary against Trump? What happens? [View all]Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Hillary *Hate is a basic paradigm with people like him here that not even the clearest fact can get through. (*Implacable Profound Disgust, Dislike, and Hostility of The People with Principles for those who like that better.)
But others take note: Over 80% of all the people who voted for BERNIE in both Iowa and New Hampshire like Hillary too! They are pleased with her as a second choice. This is on top of all the people who voted directly for Hillary. This is on top of her consistently polling well with Democrats in general -- for years. Hillary is well liked, and respected, by many.
She is out front of all other candidates of both parties with minority voting groups. And millenials like her "just fine," they're so far just not excited enough about either her or Bernie yet to suggest their vote is going to matter (boy, does it!).
The fact is, these immoderate silly Hillary Haters are mostly from the far left and strong-to-far right. No surprise there, of course.
What this means is that people pushing Edward's message are completely wrong in their view of how the people who would vote Democratic feel about Hillary. And, therefore, of course, all their other assumptions about the Democrats' part of the presidential election are wrong.
BTW, here's something some will no doubt try to turn to work Bernie-the-Savior into somehow: Charles Koch loathes The Donald and wants to bring him down. The other 700 members who pay over $100,000 each to belong to the Kochtopus political action network don't all feel so strongly, but the Loose Flywheel is definitely not their man. Problem is, if they break their usual pattern and get involved to defeat Donald in the primary, he might mount a third-party run, guaranteeing a President Hillary Clinton even more strongly. Just to spite them. It might also tick off the already ticked-off GOP base even more.