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In reply to the discussion: Google robot is 'the end of manual labor' [View all]EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)it's not "coming," it's already here; it's accelerating and finally being acknowledged by the mainstream, but it's not new and it's not going away.
I agree - and if you look at my comments you'll see I said this yesterday - that America is the last place a guaranteed minimum income will happen.
I ALSO think the the masses need to be demanding a say in their future, because if they don't - well this is coming, mass unemployment - and if people don't demand something good for themselves like they did at at the end of the 19th century - others - corporations and giant bureaucracies - will decide for them...
It's not about you being a luddite. I expect most people to be ignorant of the reality of the situation, but ignorance is not gonna stop this from happening.
Small businesses in America are currently replacing staff with cheap robots. Some of which are 20K - prices are falling all the time - can work 24/7 and require no healthcare or benefits. That's already afoot across America.
At Panek Precision Inc., a Northbrook, Ill., machine shop, 21 shiny new robots hum as they place metal parts into cutting machines and remove the parts after they are done. It's a tedious and oily task once handled by machine operators who earn about $16.50 an hour.
One new robot doubled the output from a machine that was previously operated by a worker "because robots work overnight and don't take lunch breaks and they just keep going," says Gregg Panek, the company's president. In some cases, the robots, which are single articulated arms, can even hold a part while it's getting cut since there is no danger of injury.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/robots-work-their-way-into-small-factories-1410979100

And that's just first gen stuff for small businesses. Give it 10 years.
This is also happening all over China, and in Europe.
It's happening in the legal profession, in reporting and music, and in broadcasting.
And it's not happening in the future, but NOW.
So, as it's happening, and as it's unstoppable, and as it will either lead to a dystopia - as you say- or to something else entirely new - it would SEEM TO ME that humanity should start talking about this and figuring out what we want. Back in the early 1900s Europe was still run by aristocrats.Women couldn't vote. Minorities couldn't vote, or marry white people. There was almost no protection for workers.
But
People didn't just give up. They organised and demanded that society be arranged in such a way as to protect the majority.
We are transitioning to something new. It's time to start having this conversation before something awful is foisted on us.