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82. Except, I'm not talking about small businesses competing with big businesses.

Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:58 PM

Feb 2016

I'm talking about small businesses competing with other small businesses. When the majority of small businesses are thinking and doing the same as all the rest of them, there isn't going to be a collapse of their businesses.

As for your example, let's go back to food instead. Even with the plethora of fast food franchises literally everywhere, single shop restaurants and cafes still exist and even thrive. Why weren't they all put out of business by the fast food places? Fast food is far more efficient (and faster) than those small places, and yet... And we're also not talking about "niche" businesses. We're talking about direct competition with the big guys and doing more than simply surviving. How much did they have to adapt? Not much from both my observation, and from working in that business.

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Or maybe the power to choose their own employment The2ndWheel Feb 2016 #42

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As you say, good is a subjective word The2ndWheel Feb 2016 #56

Well, you're right, of course Albertoo Feb 2016 #83

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I watched part of that video. kentauros Feb 2016 #36

Well... EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #37

I disagree on it lowering prices. kentauros Feb 2016 #39

what you're talking about EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #43

Well, I'm not reading any of that. kentauros Feb 2016 #46

umm... EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #48

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Again: cost. kentauros Feb 2016 #40

robots EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #45

And the small business owner is not what you seem to think it is. kentauros Feb 2016 #49

here's where that falls down EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #50

I get the impression you haven't talked to many small business owners. kentauros Feb 2016 #51

I am a small business owner EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #52

Well, I've both talked to many and worked for many. kentauros Feb 2016 #64

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Perhaps small businesses think that way in Europe, kentauros Feb 2016 #74

Like with Walmart EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #75

Except, I'm not talking about small businesses competing with big businesses. kentauros Feb 2016 #82

Obviously EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #107

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It's a blanket statement based on how a majority of people think. kentauros Feb 2016 #84

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