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Zorra

(27,670 posts)
8. It is an herbicide, and an organophosphorus compound.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 11:09 AM
Feb 2016
Neurotoxic disorders of organophosphorus compounds and their managements.

Organophosphorus compounds have been used as pesticides and as chemical warfare nerve agents. The mechanism of toxicity of organophosphorus compounds is the inhibition of acetylcholinesterase, which results in accumulation of acetylcholine and the continued stimulation of acetylcholine receptors. Therefore, they are also called anticholinesterase agents. Organophosphorus pesticides have largely been used worldwide, and poisoning by these agents, particularly in developing countries, is a serious health problem. Organophosphorus nerve agents were used by Iraqi army against Iranian combatants and even civilian population in 1983 - 1988. They were also used for chemical terrorism in Japan in 1994 - 1995. Their use is still a constant threat to the population. Therefore, medical and health professionals should be aware and learn more about the toxicology and proper management of organophosphorus poisoning. Determination of acetylcholinesterase and butyrylcholinesterase activity in blood remains a mainstay for the fast initial screening of organophosphorus compounds but lacks sensitivity and specificity. Quantitative analysis of organophosphorus compounds and their degradation products in plasma and urine by mass spectrometric methods may prove exposure but is expensive and is limited to specialized laboratories. However, history of exposure to organophosphorous compounds and clinical manifestations of a cholinergic syndrome are sufficient for management of the affected patients. The standard management of poisoning with organophosphorous compounds consists of decontamination, and injection of atropine sulfate with an oxime. Recent advances on treatment of organophosphorus pesticides poisoning revealed that blood alkalinization with sodium bicarbonate and also magnesium sulfate as adjunctive therapies are promising. Patients who receive prompt proper treatment usually recover from acute toxicity but may suffer from neurologic complications.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18154426


Glyphosate (N-(phosphonomethyl)glycine) is a broad-spectrum systemic herbicide and an organophosphorous compound, specifically a phosphonate. It is used to kill weeds, especially annual broadleaf weeds and grasses that compete with crops. It was discovered to be an herbicide by Monsanto chemist John E. Franz in 1970.[3] Monsanto brought it to market in 1974 under the trade name Roundup and Monsanto's last commercially relevant United States patent expired in 2000.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate

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Good thing I quit drinking 7 years ago. Flying Squirrel Feb 2016 #1
I drink occasionally, but not beer or liquor, so I've got it covered. closeupready Feb 2016 #10
Glyphosate is not a pesticide. ag_dude Feb 2016 #2
Well it is the active ingredient of herbicides and herbicides are pesticides. yellowcanine Feb 2016 #3
No its not ag_dude Feb 2016 #7
It is an herbicide, and an organophosphorus compound. Zorra Feb 2016 #8
I know very well what it is. ag_dude Feb 2016 #9
Yes. You are correct tkmorris Feb 2016 #11
I went great lengths? ag_dude Feb 2016 #13
ag-dude is not correct. Even the manufacturer calls it a pesticide Major Nikon Feb 2016 #14
MS in environmental engineering, ag focus. ag_dude Feb 2016 #16
Being laughed at by those who are ignorant isn't much of an insult Major Nikon Feb 2016 #18
I chellenge you to go to any feed store.... ag_dude Feb 2016 #19
Glyphosate is and should be called herbicide Major Nikon Feb 2016 #22
"its obvious you have no degree in agriculture anyway" ag_dude Feb 2016 #40
Texas A&M. Well that explains it right there. LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #68
Gov Rick "Goodhair" Perry's alma mater Major Nikon Feb 2016 #69
National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences not good enough for you? Denzil_DC Feb 2016 #79
LOL! tabasco Feb 2016 #64
"I know very well what it is' brentspeak Feb 2016 #26
Truthfully? Because I was on my phone at a long red light. ag_dude Feb 2016 #42
So what? It still causes cancer. I would hate to think you are just thread-jacking in order djean111 Feb 2016 #76
It is a Toxin. Duppers Feb 2016 #78
Roundup is a specific type of pesticide Major Nikon Feb 2016 #12
Bull shit. ag_dude Feb 2016 #15
Sure, it's much better to be informed by someone claiming degrees anonymously on the internet Major Nikon Feb 2016 #17
are you thinking of "insecticide" GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #20
I know what he's trying to say. ag_dude Feb 2016 #21
so "pesticide" when written on the tanks only means "insecticide"? GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #23
The terms used in actual agriculture are pesticide and herbicide. ag_dude Feb 2016 #46
You were wrong, get over it Major Nikon Feb 2016 #66
Marking a sprayer "pesticide" would be a blatant OSHA violation, ag-dude Major Nikon Feb 2016 #28
Again, no, it wouldn't ag_dude Feb 2016 #38
Well this is certainly one of the more childish things I've seen today tkmorris Feb 2016 #60
Thank you. ag_dude Feb 2016 #63
Yeah, that's it Major Nikon Feb 2016 #65
I farm too and roundup is not normally called a pesticide. Jim Beard Feb 2016 #31
It is correct Major Nikon Feb 2016 #36
It's not just him, it's the entire industry ag_dude Feb 2016 #43
All herbicides are pesticides Major Nikon Feb 2016 #45
I'll bite, what IS your background with herbicides and pesticides? ag_dude Feb 2016 #47
I'm not big on claiming expertise anonymously Major Nikon Feb 2016 #55
Yeah, sure, whatever you say anonymous internet poster. ag_dude Feb 2016 #56
And yet the facts support my assertion and betray yours Major Nikon Feb 2016 #58
Yeah, sure, its obvious I have no degree in agriculture anyway ag_dude Feb 2016 #59
Sure, because that makes glyphosate not a pesticide Major Nikon Feb 2016 #61
I sat through 5 hours of continueing ag classes and they also use the umbrella phrase "pesticide". Jim Beard Feb 2016 #50
Who taught your course and referred to glyphosate as a pesticide? ag_dude Feb 2016 #51
Perhaps it was somebody who is familiar with very basic scientific terminology? Denzil_DC Feb 2016 #83
I work with farmers every day and do pesticide applicator training. yellowcanine Feb 2016 #62
Arguing semantics is foolish - pesticide or herbicide, some people don't want to consume it. hedgehog Feb 2016 #24
Ah, Monsanto. The gift that keeps on killing. marmar Feb 2016 #4
Actually the glyphosate patent has long run out so there are other companies yellowcanine Feb 2016 #6
This has nothing to do with GMOs. Beer is made from barley or wheat. yellowcanine Feb 2016 #5
There is GMO wheat but none is approved for use. GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #29
Hard to see how glyphosate would get on hops - or in potable water. yellowcanine Feb 2016 #54
In water run off. Glyphosate shows up in water all over the place. GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #57
Another reason to drink German beer instead of water Major Nikon Feb 2016 #70
Thats why I was wondering why the header showed corn Jim Beard Feb 2016 #33
Corn can be used for beer but it is usually not done commercially. yellowcanine Feb 2016 #48
Augustiner is Republican Stepdad's favorite. KamaAina Feb 2016 #25
I can't say that glyphosate caused my (relatively rare) cancer, hedgehog Feb 2016 #27
According to WHO, beer is a class 1 carcinogen Peregrine Feb 2016 #30
Monsanto doesn't make beer Major Nikon Feb 2016 #67
This "story" is classic overhype bullshit. Archae Feb 2016 #32
I don't think they are using more but they are definitely using too much. Jim Beard Feb 2016 #35
Who is using too much? Archae Feb 2016 #39
In some cases they are definitely using more Major Nikon Feb 2016 #41
I have been involved in organics Jim Beard Feb 2016 #34
I'm surprised there are that many Major Nikon Feb 2016 #37
There has been an evolution in organic certification. Jim Beard Feb 2016 #44
Actually the evolution was the reverse Major Nikon Feb 2016 #49
Yes it is the word that is used and is the one that has been accepted. Jim Beard Feb 2016 #53
The drinking water standard for glyphosate is 3 times that level. Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #52
Yurpeens might not agree with our drinking water standards. tabasco Feb 2016 #74
Maybe. The could establish their own, they could use WHO's levels, or... Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #75
Disgusting Chemical Pollution, Inc. AxionExcel Feb 2016 #71
I'll believe it when I see the owners of these companies drink a liter of contaminated water Taitertots Feb 2016 #72
I don't even remotely give a shit. Throd Feb 2016 #73
Have it your way - AxionExcel Feb 2016 #77
Wow, that guy happens to look a lot like me! Throd Feb 2016 #81
It's in the birth canal, and in the gut AxionExcel Feb 2016 #80
I'm not seeing the GMO connection Bradical79 Feb 2016 #82
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