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Major Nikon

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45. All herbicides are pesticides

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:04 PM

Feb 2016

The original claim was that the authors of the article are ignorant for calling an herbicide a pesticide which it most certainly is. You made two posts ignorantly claiming otherwise before I made a single post and you were also first with lying about my background which is why I gave it back to you. Most people learned about dishing it out and taking it in grade school, YMMV.

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Glyphosate: Germany's most popular beers contain Monsanto-produced pesticide linked to cancer [View all] nationalize the fed Feb 2016 OP

Good thing I quit drinking 7 years ago. Flying Squirrel Feb 2016 #1

I drink occasionally, but not beer or liquor, so I've got it covered. closeupready Feb 2016 #10

Glyphosate is not a pesticide. ag_dude Feb 2016 #2

Well it is the active ingredient of herbicides and herbicides are pesticides. yellowcanine Feb 2016 #3

No its not ag_dude Feb 2016 #7

It is an herbicide, and an organophosphorus compound. Zorra Feb 2016 #8

I know very well what it is. ag_dude Feb 2016 #9

Yes. You are correct tkmorris Feb 2016 #11

I went great lengths? ag_dude Feb 2016 #13

ag-dude is not correct. Even the manufacturer calls it a pesticide Major Nikon Feb 2016 #14

MS in environmental engineering, ag focus. ag_dude Feb 2016 #16

Being laughed at by those who are ignorant isn't much of an insult Major Nikon Feb 2016 #18

I chellenge you to go to any feed store.... ag_dude Feb 2016 #19

Glyphosate is and should be called herbicide Major Nikon Feb 2016 #22

"its obvious you have no degree in agriculture anyway" ag_dude Feb 2016 #40

Texas A&M. Well that explains it right there. LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #68

Gov Rick "Goodhair" Perry's alma mater Major Nikon Feb 2016 #69

National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences not good enough for you? Denzil_DC Feb 2016 #79

LOL! tabasco Feb 2016 #64

"I know very well what it is' brentspeak Feb 2016 #26

Truthfully? Because I was on my phone at a long red light. ag_dude Feb 2016 #42

So what? It still causes cancer. I would hate to think you are just thread-jacking in order djean111 Feb 2016 #76

It is a Toxin. Duppers Feb 2016 #78

Roundup is a specific type of pesticide Major Nikon Feb 2016 #12

Bull shit. ag_dude Feb 2016 #15

Sure, it's much better to be informed by someone claiming degrees anonymously on the internet Major Nikon Feb 2016 #17

are you thinking of "insecticide" GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #20

I know what he's trying to say. ag_dude Feb 2016 #21

so "pesticide" when written on the tanks only means "insecticide"? GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #23

The terms used in actual agriculture are pesticide and herbicide. ag_dude Feb 2016 #46

You were wrong, get over it Major Nikon Feb 2016 #66

Marking a sprayer "pesticide" would be a blatant OSHA violation, ag-dude Major Nikon Feb 2016 #28

Again, no, it wouldn't ag_dude Feb 2016 #38

Well this is certainly one of the more childish things I've seen today tkmorris Feb 2016 #60

Thank you. ag_dude Feb 2016 #63

Yeah, that's it Major Nikon Feb 2016 #65

I farm too and roundup is not normally called a pesticide. Jim Beard Feb 2016 #31

It is correct Major Nikon Feb 2016 #36

It's not just him, it's the entire industry ag_dude Feb 2016 #43

All herbicides are pesticides Major Nikon Feb 2016 #45

I'll bite, what IS your background with herbicides and pesticides? ag_dude Feb 2016 #47

I'm not big on claiming expertise anonymously Major Nikon Feb 2016 #55

Yeah, sure, whatever you say anonymous internet poster. ag_dude Feb 2016 #56

And yet the facts support my assertion and betray yours Major Nikon Feb 2016 #58

Yeah, sure, its obvious I have no degree in agriculture anyway ag_dude Feb 2016 #59

Sure, because that makes glyphosate not a pesticide Major Nikon Feb 2016 #61

I sat through 5 hours of continueing ag classes and they also use the umbrella phrase "pesticide". Jim Beard Feb 2016 #50

Who taught your course and referred to glyphosate as a pesticide? ag_dude Feb 2016 #51

Perhaps it was somebody who is familiar with very basic scientific terminology? Denzil_DC Feb 2016 #83

I work with farmers every day and do pesticide applicator training. yellowcanine Feb 2016 #62

Arguing semantics is foolish - pesticide or herbicide, some people don't want to consume it. hedgehog Feb 2016 #24

Ah, Monsanto. The gift that keeps on killing. marmar Feb 2016 #4

Actually the glyphosate patent has long run out so there are other companies yellowcanine Feb 2016 #6

This has nothing to do with GMOs. Beer is made from barley or wheat. yellowcanine Feb 2016 #5

There is GMO wheat but none is approved for use. GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #29

Hard to see how glyphosate would get on hops - or in potable water. yellowcanine Feb 2016 #54

In water run off. Glyphosate shows up in water all over the place. GreatGazoo Feb 2016 #57

Another reason to drink German beer instead of water Major Nikon Feb 2016 #70

Thats why I was wondering why the header showed corn Jim Beard Feb 2016 #33

Corn can be used for beer but it is usually not done commercially. yellowcanine Feb 2016 #48

Augustiner is Republican Stepdad's favorite. KamaAina Feb 2016 #25

I can't say that glyphosate caused my (relatively rare) cancer, hedgehog Feb 2016 #27

According to WHO, beer is a class 1 carcinogen Peregrine Feb 2016 #30

Monsanto doesn't make beer Major Nikon Feb 2016 #67

This "story" is classic overhype bullshit. Archae Feb 2016 #32

I don't think they are using more but they are definitely using too much. Jim Beard Feb 2016 #35

Who is using too much? Archae Feb 2016 #39

In some cases they are definitely using more Major Nikon Feb 2016 #41

I have been involved in organics Jim Beard Feb 2016 #34

I'm surprised there are that many Major Nikon Feb 2016 #37

There has been an evolution in organic certification. Jim Beard Feb 2016 #44

Actually the evolution was the reverse Major Nikon Feb 2016 #49

Yes it is the word that is used and is the one that has been accepted. Jim Beard Feb 2016 #53

The drinking water standard for glyphosate is 3 times that level. Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #52

Yurpeens might not agree with our drinking water standards. tabasco Feb 2016 #74

Maybe. The could establish their own, they could use WHO's levels, or... Buzz Clik Feb 2016 #75

Disgusting Chemical Pollution, Inc. AxionExcel Feb 2016 #71

I'll believe it when I see the owners of these companies drink a liter of contaminated water Taitertots Feb 2016 #72

I don't even remotely give a shit. Throd Feb 2016 #73

Have it your way - AxionExcel Feb 2016 #77

Wow, that guy happens to look a lot like me! Throd Feb 2016 #81

It's in the birth canal, and in the gut AxionExcel Feb 2016 #80

I'm not seeing the GMO connection Bradical79 Feb 2016 #82