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dreamnightwind

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47. There are too many other differences between us and Europe
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:31 PM
Feb 2016

such as parliamentary systems rather than strict two party like we have

Also their political races aren't, to my knowledge, so dependent on corporate money

Another rarely articulated part of the dynamic is that because the U.S. military is being used as the global strong arm to insure corporations access to cheap labor and physical resources, the corporations keep much tighter control over our elections, they are dependent on our military for their global industries and won't tolerate our own people having much say over things for that reason.

I didn't understand your point about unions stopping offshoring, though I tried. How many offshorings of factories have ever been stopped by a union? Using what leverage? I'm sure it has happened a few times, but I don't see any real power unions have when the owners can take their ball and play in another country. Labor has not been able to globalize the same way capital has. Foreign labor leaders are often assassinated by proxy forces of the U.S. government, this has been well documented in a great many cases.

Also with our politicians being owned by corporations, they make it easy to and even provide tax incentives for corporations to move elsewhere, instead of protecting U.S. labor interests.

Hillary is fully onboard with that whole dynamic, no matter what she claims, not that this was about Hillary, but I think it's important to point out.

anyway I just don't buy the approach of blaming U.S. labor, or white American males who vote Republican, for the massive transfer of wealth to the corporate overlords. We live in a Deep State, with captured regulatory agencies, and both parties have done their utmost to bring this about, starting in the late 70s and continuing to this day.

There's a revolution on both sides. 840high Feb 2016 #1
Both sides? The revolution on the right is America isnt racist enough, is what it seems to me. Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #26
Their fears and anxieties..... daleanime Feb 2016 #2
Kinda, imo it is more like the South is dying. Rex Feb 2016 #3
Where is the GOP dying? I keep seeing this shit.... davidn3600 Feb 2016 #4
+1 joeybee12 Feb 2016 #9
It's like the war on christmas killbotfactory Feb 2016 #10
+10 840high Feb 2016 #45
Majority of working class Whites (esp. White males) vote Republican Yavin4 Feb 2016 #5
I see it differently dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #7
Why don't you blame corporate moguls and their stockholders? The stockholder have the real Jitter65 Feb 2016 #14
I absolutely do dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #18
Governments are instituted amonst people One_Life_To_Give Feb 2016 #20
Europe and Canada have the same corporations that we have Yavin4 Feb 2016 #43
There are too many other differences between us and Europe dreamnightwind Feb 2016 #47
I have been reading that Democrats in that same demographic (white working class males) Lodestar Feb 2016 #30
David is very correct NashuaDW Feb 2016 #6
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #8
What "we", kemo sabe? KamaAina Feb 2016 #11
I'm hoping he was being sarcastic JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #13
Not really. ALago1 Feb 2016 #17
My husband is an immigrant JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #19
So this is the RW 'immigrants are welfare moochers' argument. What about the 'immigrants are job- pampango Feb 2016 #21
us Democrats Skittles Feb 2016 #28
It's funny. You post a lot but never any cogent arguments. ALago1 Feb 2016 #29
You know what to do, Skittles! KamaAina Feb 2016 #32
Cave assholes Skittles Feb 2016 #40
Restricted eh? ALago1 Feb 2016 #16
Where at your link does it say anything about welfare benefits for immigrants? n/t pampango Feb 2016 #22
I was responding to an assertion regarding the "restricting" of welfare spending. ALago1 Feb 2016 #23
The 'study' from the RW CIS also says immigrants work more and receive less welfare in the long run pampango Feb 2016 #24
I think you need to reread what you quoted: ALago1 Feb 2016 #25
From the CIS I would expect nothing more. n/t pampango Feb 2016 #41
Of which $462 billion went to U.S. citizens. KamaAina Feb 2016 #33
you know most people on welfare in a racist system are white right? PatrynXX Feb 2016 #42
As a sarcastic summary of republican rhetoric on immigration, this is a great post. pampango Feb 2016 #15
That's a racist anti-immigrant lie spread by conservatives Bradical79 Feb 2016 #36
And their answer is Trump JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #12
Our long national whitemare is over? BeyondGeography Feb 2016 #27
It's gonna be raining sensible tan slacks and mayonaisse-laden potato salad! Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #34
I know that guy BeyondGeography Feb 2016 #37
But, but, but OldHippieChick Feb 2016 #39
It reminds me of South Africa before 1990s. Hoyt Feb 2016 #31
. melman Feb 2016 #46
White America is dying because RICH White America is killing it. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #35
the beast that dare nto speak it's name DonCoquixote Feb 2016 #38
I ran across this video newblewtoo Feb 2016 #44
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