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MH1

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41. Thanks, by the way I should mention, I saw that somewhere on the Internet
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:39 AM
Feb 2016

I didn't come up with myself, just saw it and thought it worked well.

There are several of these analogies floating around, and I just latched on to that one as probably the best and easiest for most people to understand.

I don't think the 911 call analogy that I have heard is that stupid though. (You call 911 to tell them your house is on fire so they'll send the fire dept, and they respond with "all houses matter&quot . The point is, the situation described in the analogy is ridiculous. It is ridiculous because it makes no sense, that's not how it would happen - just like the restaurant analogy. You call 911 because you have a problem; it is not appropriate (and wouldn't happen) to get a response that everyone else has problems, too. No, they dispatch the organization that should be able to help with your problem. When people are saying "black lives matter" it is a call of distress - to respond with "all lives matter" just ignores the situation of distress.

I didn't go to the article you were referring to, but I would agree that the analogy posted from the article is a little harder to follow, and therefore "stupid" in the sense that it doesn't effectively get the point across. I had to re-read it and scratch my head to figure it out, and I already know what the plot is supposed to be. So, a swing and a miss, I'd say. And yeah, a young white guy has no room to be snarky and patronizing about an issue like this.

And I definitely agree we shouldn't be broad-brushing all uses of "all lives matter" as racism. Some is racism, some is ignorance, some is (as you point out) trying to promote a more noble notion. I would however, say that for the more noble, context matters, and when it isn't misinterpreted as racism or ignorance, it might accurately be perceived as naive. But then, most idealism is at least a little naive, and there is still a place for it. Sometimes we have to dream of things how they aren't, so we know what we are trying to achieve.

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Let's start with our own. demmiblue Feb 2016 #1
I agree on that point. applegrove Feb 2016 #2
I've had to explain this multiple times to relations on Facebook. gcomeau Feb 2016 #3
I've never hit like or share on any of those posts... Wounded Bear Feb 2016 #43
All Lives Matter NobodyHere Feb 2016 #4
and the results are in! yuiyoshida Feb 2016 #5
Thank you for posting this NobodyHere Feb 2016 #15
just so you know.. yuiyoshida Feb 2016 #17
So why do you think "All Lives Matter" is hideworthy? NobodyHere Feb 2016 #18
Yes. yuiyoshida Feb 2016 #25
"Any other interpretation is wrong." oberliner Feb 2016 #27
THAN READ THIS... yuiyoshida Feb 2016 #30
Another article by a "snarky young white man who thinks he knows everything" oberliner Feb 2016 #31
Fine, THAN this guy is black, are you happy? yuiyoshida Feb 2016 #32
That's a good, thoughtful article - not wannabe clever white boy snark like those other two oberliner Feb 2016 #33
Results of your Jury MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #6
The problem with saying "All Lives Matter" is... RichGirl Feb 2016 #19
Actually NobodyHere Feb 2016 #20
Any argument against 'all lives matter' is ultimately going to end up looking dumb. Bonx Feb 2016 #21
In my opinion.... RichGirl Feb 2016 #38
co-opting the phrase "Black Lives Matter" lapfog_1 Feb 2016 #36
There are some white lives that don't seem to matter to folks oberliner Feb 2016 #28
That's like going to a cancer fundraiser... backscatter712 Feb 2016 #23
If the healthy person is homeless and starving NobodyHere Feb 2016 #24
No it's not oberliner Feb 2016 #29
Saying it is Denying the Victim. HughBeaumont Feb 2016 #34
Agreed, but I'm a little slow rock Feb 2016 #37
No. The wedge issue is "Blue Lives Matter" Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2016 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #8
Would you agree that the confederate flag as celebrated in the last 20 years was about keeping applegrove Feb 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #10
My worry is the All Lives Matter meme is spreading. Facebook CEO had to send a memo applegrove Feb 2016 #11
I love it when conservatives feign caring for others tenderfoot Feb 2016 #12
Maybe asking them about the death penalty would be a good comeback to 'but every life is important'. applegrove Feb 2016 #13
Agreed. You can't have all lives mattering until black lives matter just as much. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #14
Yes. There is a movement in Canada called "Idle No More' of indigenous people. We applegrove Feb 2016 #16
I disagree NobodyHere Feb 2016 #22
The Problem with Saying ‘All Lives Matter’ yuiyoshida Feb 2016 #26
That has got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever read oberliner Feb 2016 #35
A better analogy MH1 Feb 2016 #39
That's a little better oberliner Feb 2016 #40
Thanks, by the way I should mention, I saw that somewhere on the Internet MH1 Feb 2016 #41
The confederate flag is not gone. I just saw one yesterday and it's still up in ms craigmatic Feb 2016 #42
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