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AxionExcel

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27. What an amazingly perfect, TrueGMObeliever antifactual inversion of reality.

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:22 PM

Feb 2016

Last edited Sat Feb 27, 2016, 05:54 PM - Edit history (1)

Thanks for the blast from Upside-Down Anti-science Land. That kind of screed reveals a lot.

Here's some actual factual reality you can nosh on,
and wash down with a keg of your beloved glyphosate-infested beer.

"A good deal of the debate surrounding GMOs involves attacking critics of the technology who voice genuine concerns and put forward valid arguments to back up their case. The attacks by the pro-GM lobby are nonsensical because there is sufficient, credible evidence that questions the safety, efficacy and the science used to promote GM, as well as the politics and practices used to get GMOs on the commercial market."

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/25/the-gmo-issue-false-claims-psuedo-analysis-and-a-politically-motivated-agenda/

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"If GM foods are safe, as the industry claims, then why the stubborn opposition to labeling?" [View all] marmar Feb 2016 OP

It's like those transcripts. Proles need not know. tk2kewl Feb 2016 #1

The Hillary Goldman transcripts were the first things to come to my mind, too! valerief Feb 2016 #3

Attack on labeling is part of a global attack on local sourcing and labeling in trade 'agreements' Baobab Feb 2016 #20

Excellent point AxionExcel Feb 2016 #35

They are doing it with people too Baobab Feb 2016 #37

Because consumers are stupid Recursion Feb 2016 #2

Wow. How tremendously arrogant. marmar Feb 2016 #4

That is arrogant of stupid consumers, I agree Recursion Feb 2016 #5

I support the public's right to know. marmar Feb 2016 #6

Fair enough. I have nothing against mandating labelling of GMOs Recursion Feb 2016 #10

Look at other issues. Igel Feb 2016 #13

There already is such a label (albeit voluntary, as far as I know) MH1 Feb 2016 #82

Does the public have the right to know which foods were produced through radiation and chemical... Humanist_Activist Feb 2016 #21

Food Babe says we shouldn't eat things with chemicals. Liberal Veteran Feb 2016 #12

Sunlight? Sunlight is radiation! You definitely don't want to petronius Feb 2016 #38

Food Babe sure looks healthy too womanofthehills Feb 2016 #60

That's not an argument, most organic food shoppers are upper class by default because the foods... Humanist_Activist Feb 2016 #70

So, it's OK to parrot Trump-Republican talking points on DU? AxionExcel Feb 2016 #34

On the face of it labeling makes sense. Turbineguy Feb 2016 #7

Are you really sure you don't eat round up? tk2kewl Feb 2016 #8

Secrecy is a hallmark of the GMO-Chem Industry, of Republicans, and of evil AxionExcel Feb 2016 #9

And if they had labels: "If GM foods are safe, why are they required to be labeled?" Liberal Veteran Feb 2016 #11

As it stands today, most GMO crops have only one advantage: glyphosate resistant AxionExcel Feb 2016 #14

It is still bad logic. Liberal Veteran Feb 2016 #17

To be honest I'd rather eat Roundup than pig shit, which I've heard organic farms use... Humanist_Activist Feb 2016 #22

Well, i've heard stuff, too. Want me to share my rumors? AxionExcel Feb 2016 #26

So you think people who have died from shit fertilized produce are untrue rumors? Major Nikon Feb 2016 #47

Having been poisoned by pesticides womanofthehills Feb 2016 #55

Really, which pesticides? Its not like organic farming is pesticide free... Humanist_Activist Feb 2016 #58

Here is a fact check of your link above womanofthehills Feb 2016 #61

Interesting, in the first claim, he gets a fact wrong... Humanist_Activist Feb 2016 #66

Not true, there are a number of advantages Major Nikon Feb 2016 #44

Obama supported labeling before he didn't nationalize the fed Feb 2016 #15

Why industry opposition? The prospect of falling market share. closeupready Feb 2016 #16

Key words here: Archae Feb 2016 #18

What an amazingly perfect, TrueGMObeliever antifactual inversion of reality. AxionExcel Feb 2016 #27

Actual factual reality? Major Nikon Feb 2016 #45

There is difference in taste. Most of the small farmers will use Jim Beard Feb 2016 #36

Except nowadays the "small farmer" you mention only exists in third world countries. Archae Feb 2016 #39

Just curious womanofthehills Feb 2016 #54

And guess what turkeys do on those plants. Archae Feb 2016 #56

I have been eating those raspberries forever womanofthehills Feb 2016 #62

Lots of 3rd world countries have life expectancies similar to the US Major Nikon Feb 2016 #72

I'm not sure what those advantages are Major Nikon Feb 2016 #46

There are several things that use the Organic umbrella Jim Beard Feb 2016 #49

I'm not seeing the advantage Major Nikon Feb 2016 #51

Also less pesticide runnoff womanofthehills Feb 2016 #65

"Organic is nothing BUT marketing". Deadshot Feb 2016 #53

I noticed all you people who hate organic womanofthehills Feb 2016 #63

We don't "hate organic." Archae Feb 2016 #64

... Major Nikon Feb 2016 #89

Why the attack on labeling? Trade rules-Links to info and my thoughts on the main issues Baobab Feb 2016 #19

Here's the problem with using political rather than objective criteria Major Nikon Feb 2016 #48

It's funny that we have our own anti-science people on the left. Deadshot Feb 2016 #23

Monsanto is a boogeyman for the left, hell some of the conspiracy theories revolving around the Zika Humanist_Activist Feb 2016 #25

Pioneer Seeds, a long established good corn seed company was bought by DuPont Jim Beard Feb 2016 #32

just google "monsanto poisons town" nt killbotfactory Feb 2016 #33

Workers File Lawsuit Against Monsanto Alleging Chemicals Caused Cancer womanofthehills Feb 2016 #57

From America's best lawyer Mike Papantonio network womanofthehills Feb 2016 #59

First off, Links? Second off, where is the evidence for all these assertions? Humanist_Activist Feb 2016 #67

Are you kidding? GMO's and Roundup are blamed in anti-GMO propaganda for everything. Archae Feb 2016 #68

While also failing to demonstrate that organic pesticides and herbicides are safer, as claimed... Humanist_Activist Feb 2016 #69

Like I said before, propaganda. Archae Feb 2016 #71

GMOs are responsible for my power steering leak. Orrex Feb 2016 #76

People also used to laugh at the hypothesis that Rock-n-Roll caused devil worship Major Nikon Feb 2016 #79

US postage rates have been linked to global warming and the evidence is pretty convincing Major Nikon Feb 2016 #77

The opposition is simple, GMO is too general a term, what type of GMO should be labeled? Humanist_Activist Feb 2016 #24

Not only that, but it would be largely useless Warpy Feb 2016 #29

64 other countries in the world have no problem with informing their citizens nationalize the fed Feb 2016 #40

Blue Corn is Non GMO Jim Beard Feb 2016 #42

Almost none of the unprocessed corn you buy in the market is GMO Major Nikon Feb 2016 #52

In other words, 135 countries think that the complaint is silly. Got it. Orrex Feb 2016 #74

Maybe we could start our own grocery store chain Jim Beard Feb 2016 #28

Or you could buy a farm and grow your own. Warpy Feb 2016 #30

they'd be friggin' running ads 24/7, flying banners over beaches and fireworks at night MisterP Feb 2016 #31

Just how many food processors are there Jim Beard Feb 2016 #41

I don't think the number of them is the problem Major Nikon Feb 2016 #50

So this is a fight between organic companies and chemical companies? Rex Feb 2016 #43

No. That's one way the industrial chemical-GMO-pharmaceutical-ag Corps frame it AxionExcel Feb 2016 #75

It would be pretty fucking stupid if that were the case Major Nikon Feb 2016 #81

Agreed. It is pretty freaking stupid. And evil, if you ask me. AxionExcel Feb 2016 #83

So who do you think is buying off the AMA and the NSA? Major Nikon Feb 2016 #86

So-called "organic" food producers use chemicals much worse than glyphosate Orrex Feb 2016 #73

Rest easy, Orrex. There are plenty of digital minions emitting those phony whines about organics AxionExcel Feb 2016 #80

"Clean food." That's funny, what you wrote. Orrex Feb 2016 #85

It's also kind of funny when someone who has been here a week has all the "usual suspects" mapped Major Nikon Feb 2016 #87

Library Girl? Archae Feb 2016 #90

... Major Nikon Feb 2016 #91

SpiralHawk Major Nikon Apr 2016 #92

Label them. I do not want GMO's in my food supply from a chemical company bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #78

They are not required to list the poisons in household cleaners, either. Zorra Feb 2016 #84

I'd be interested to know if you could name just one that doesn't Major Nikon Feb 2016 #88