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D Gary Grady

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19. Lincoln tried very hard to preserve the Union without war
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 04:41 AM
Feb 2016

Lincoln even indicated acceptance of the "other" 13th Amendment, one that would have made it impossible for the federal government to have outlawed slavery in the existing slave states, even by later amendment. It passed Congress by a large margin and was ratified by several states, though not enough to enter the Constitution, and by then many Southern elites actively hated the Union and did not want to remain in it. Most of the secessionist states had already announced secession before Lincoln's inauguration, but he tried in vain to convince them to rejoin. It was South Carolina that started the war by firing on Fort Sumpter.

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Slavery in the U.S. should have been explicitly outlawed in the Constitution ladjf Feb 2016 #1
That outlawing slavery in the Constitution melm00se Feb 2016 #2
I've heard that argument. But, I'm not convinced it's true. ladjf Feb 2016 #3
The Southern delegates would never have signed on to the Constitution hifiguy Feb 2016 #6
Your argument makes sense. But, if the Southern states had to either ladjf Feb 2016 #9
In the original of the Declaration of Independence melm00se Feb 2016 #10
How interesting. I've been saying, "why didn't Jefferson put the wording in th ladjf Feb 2016 #12
Don't fall into the name trap melm00se Feb 2016 #17
You are obviously better posted on the entire chronology of the various ladjf Feb 2016 #18
Lincoln tried very hard to preserve the Union without war D Gary Grady Feb 2016 #19
Actually no, Jefferson put in a phrase blaming the slave TRADE on the crown, which was BS Bucky Feb 2016 #13
The southern states made it very clear they were NOT going jwirr Feb 2016 #16
I don't think this is right... joeybee12 Feb 2016 #4
ha ha Bucky Feb 2016 #14
What nutcases joeybee12 Feb 2016 #15
Moving to Cape Breton Island is sounding better and better every day. Initech Feb 2016 #5
I've been looking into that as well KamaAina Feb 2016 #8
And the other 80 percent don't know what slaves were. KamaAina Feb 2016 #7
BLM opened my eyes that this racism in the here and now is most certainly not confined to the GOP. LanternWaste Feb 2016 #11
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