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malthaussen

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12. Not clear how this answers my question.

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:09 AM

Mar 2016

Mr Trump is on record advocating certain positions. They aren't bogeymen. While we may be reasonably skeptical that Mr Trump would perform anything he promises, is it a risk one wants to take? And if so, why?

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Voting One's Conscience [View all] malthaussen Mar 2016 OP

A vote for anyone other than Trump is a vote against Trump. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2016 #1

+100 peacebird Mar 2016 #2

The rationale applies only if one does vote in the GE. malthaussen Mar 2016 #4

+ 1000000000000 !!!!!!!!!!! orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #8

That would only be true in the following cases: MH1 Mar 2016 #18

You can come back and whine at me if Trump wins Ohio by one vote in the GE. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2016 #40

In the year 2000 hfojvt Mar 2016 #78

To support Hillary and her sellouts to corporations- marew Mar 2016 #60

That is technically true, but practically false. Adrahil Mar 2016 #33

That is "if you're not for us, you're against us" redux. Igel Mar 2016 #75

QED tk2kewl Mar 2016 #39

Amen.... daleanime Mar 2016 #81

Arithmatic says otherwise. Buzz cook Mar 2016 #105

Agree - 100% Laf.La.Dem. Mar 2016 #3

Third Way gives in to fear, and I'm afraid SHE means to blur the difference. orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #5

Not clear how this answers my question. malthaussen Mar 2016 #12

That risk runs both ways and though I trust her more than him, being Scared in to a vote is how we orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #59

My question, however, is concerned not with fear, but conscience. malthaussen Mar 2016 #61

Calling people for Bernie since July is a vote for my Conscience, Not supporting Hillary is orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #91

Except I haven't characterized anything as a lack of conscience. malthaussen Mar 2016 #92

That I understand and appreciate the question, You prefaced your question " Assuming " so orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #94

I always vote. For somebody. Shadowflash Mar 2016 #6

Bravo! fleur-de-lisa Mar 2016 #90

I won't vote for Trump or Hillary. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #7

Stipulated, but it doesn't answer the question. n/t malthaussen Mar 2016 #15

It does. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #17

Actually, you didn't. malthaussen Mar 2016 #22

Will that not be a vote against Trump? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #24

You might abstain from voting altogether. malthaussen Mar 2016 #28

What misundersting? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #37

No, I asked... malthaussen Mar 2016 #47

I have a conscience and I'm voting against Trump because of it. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #50

Certainly. malthaussen Mar 2016 #54

It does answer the question abelenkpe Mar 2016 #32

No, it doesn't, actually. malthaussen Mar 2016 #38

And that is where you are very wrong. TM99 Mar 2016 #49

I pray you keep civil. malthaussen Mar 2016 #52

You make the gross assumption TM99 Mar 2016 #58

No, actually I make no such assumption. malthaussen Mar 2016 #62

No your question was answered abelenkpe Mar 2016 #57

On the contrary, I am perfectly willing to accept it. malthaussen Mar 2016 #64

+1! n/t marew Mar 2016 #30

Ahh the lesser of two evils argument again! I am not moved. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #9

Argument? It was a question. malthaussen Mar 2016 #13

Its a just another veiled attempt Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #14

I had no idea you were the Shadow. malthaussen Mar 2016 #16

If you say so. Either way I am not voting Hillary. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #19

Which still doesn't answer the question. malthaussen Mar 2016 #23

My view is which can do more damage. A corporate operative with the intent of Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #27

So your assessment is that Mr Trump is not, in fact, the candidate most to be feared? malthaussen Mar 2016 #34

Ok Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #51

then the greater evil will pervail WhiteTara Mar 2016 #29

Guess you should have run something other than a corporate operative to win. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #31

"I" didn't run anyone WhiteTara Mar 2016 #41

No, Trump is a buffoon in search of self aggrandizement. Clinton is after power for powers sake. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #53

Time will tell. WhiteTara Mar 2016 #67

Pretty much Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #89

Awful. Guess you should have run someone other than a corporate operative. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #10

I won't sit home... vi5 Mar 2016 #11

I'll cross the GE bridge when I get there. KentuckyWoman Mar 2016 #20

Then the question does not apply. malthaussen Mar 2016 #26

I MIGHT vote Hillary if she wins. It isn't guaranteed. KentuckyWoman Mar 2016 #36

The question is not about whom you will vote for. malthaussen Mar 2016 #43

You see the box they put us in each time, vote for a corporate sell out, or really get screwed Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #21

Which still doesn't answer the question. malthaussen Mar 2016 #25

Some will vote their conscience, others will fall in line. Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #55

Still doesn't answer the question. malthaussen Mar 2016 #56

Voting for something tazkcmo Mar 2016 #35

Stipulated, but it doesn't answer the question. malthaussen Mar 2016 #44

No, it doesn't. tazkcmo Mar 2016 #45

I think it goes beyond conscience, mountain grammy Mar 2016 #42

Then the question does not apply... malthaussen Mar 2016 #46

The conscience thing bothers me too.. mountain grammy Mar 2016 #72

The answer can only be that they assess the situation differently. malthaussen Mar 2016 #76

This ... BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #48

It is an amazing thing.. mountain grammy Mar 2016 #66

You've got your priorities BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #93

"Conscience" in this context is a euphemism for narcissism Orrex Mar 2016 #63

Oddly enough, that may not be true in all cases. malthaussen Mar 2016 #65

That's a fair distinction Orrex Mar 2016 #68

I'd have to know more... malthaussen Mar 2016 #70

Mal I will answer this in another way nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #69

Rather than "more than expected," malthaussen Mar 2016 #74

I am nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #77

There are a couple of reasons someone might. aikoaiko Mar 2016 #71

Sure. malthaussen Mar 2016 #82

Why should Muslims and Mexicans be MY top concern? hfojvt Mar 2016 #73

Well, I make no suggestion that they should be your top concern. malthaussen Mar 2016 #83

you seemed to feel that it should be a concern hfojvt Mar 2016 #84

I'll suggest that prejudicial behavior... malthaussen Mar 2016 #87

If the Democratic party no longer represents the economic interests and social interests PatrickforO Mar 2016 #79

I should hope you would always vote for whom you please. malthaussen Mar 2016 #85

Risk assessment Kuroneko Mar 2016 #80

That's one of the things I am trying to get at. malthaussen Mar 2016 #88

If you put a Republican to my head and threaten to pull the trigger if I don't vote your way, do it. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #86

And that's why Bernie would beat Donald, it's Wasserman, MSM and $$$$$ who have NO conscience who orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #95

No, the threat not to vote is intimidation. "They will tear everything down if Democrats don't Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #96

History repeating itself bhikkhu Mar 2016 #97

The point is relevant for those who saw it coming. malthaussen Mar 2016 #99

You shouldn't worry about purity voters. joshcryer Mar 2016 #98

In statistical terms, probably. malthaussen Mar 2016 #100

This Revolt Has Been Building For Years - The DWS, DNC, DLC, Third-Way Has Only Themselves To Blame cantbeserious Mar 2016 #101

I'm not interested in assessing blame. malthaussen Mar 2016 #102

This Revolt Has Been Building For Years - The DWS, DNC, DLC, Third-Way Has Only Themselves To Blame cantbeserious Mar 2016 #103

Say rather that they are your reasons. malthaussen Mar 2016 #104

You Asked For Reasons - You Got Reasons - Yours Or Otherwise cantbeserious Mar 2016 #106

Amen. 840high Mar 2016 #107