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HereSince1628

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15. Michigan like much of "The Old Foundry" states depended on heavy industry
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:01 PM
Mar 2016

Mining of iron and copper, mining of limestone (MI had the worlds largest open pit quarrythat mined the limestone used to make coke a fuel that burns hotter than coal alone), Great Lakes shipping (remember the Edmond Fitzgerald), smelting/steel making.

Lots of those jobs weren't lost from America. They "went South", when southern states aggressively subsidized industrial relocation. Part of that was opportunity to modernize on the cheap, part of that was escaping unions and their benefit demands. NAFTA made it all that much worse. But "right-to-work" was a bitter phrase in MI for decades before that.

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Detroit built the Middle Class. Octafish Mar 2016 #1
Michigan, Ohio, New York, Pennsylvania - the whole rust belt Retrograde Mar 2016 #2
Part of that was bungling by car company management Warpy Mar 2016 #3
'THE GM SYSTEM IS LIKE A BLANKET OF FOG' (FORTUNE Magazine) Downwinder Mar 2016 #7
Thanks! That's great Warpy Mar 2016 #12
Agreed, Detroit was largely responsible for its own demise frazzled Mar 2016 #13
The auto companies always outsourced parts manaufacturing 1939 Mar 2016 #4
Ford had an assembly plant in Dallas. Jim Beard Mar 2016 #6
Not to mention Union Busting and relocating to the Southern states. Jim Beard Mar 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Mar 2016 #8
Yes these trade treaties were negotiated and approved by both parties, but the overwhelming majority B Calm Mar 2016 #9
GATT was an FDR/Truman creation. I don't think Detroit's problems go back that far. pampango Mar 2016 #10
Michigan and the automakers were slow to adapt. Kaleva Mar 2016 #11
Being a child of Detroit ... kwassa Mar 2016 #14
Michigan like much of "The Old Foundry" states depended on heavy industry HereSince1628 Mar 2016 #15
The good old days... blockhead Mar 2016 #16
After NAFTA, US automobile industry employment increased 20% bhikkhu Mar 2016 #17
I disagree with the above. The cold war pushed manufacturing spread via tax breaks. Festivito Mar 2016 #18
Some will disagree but the riots didn't help any. When a city burns it Jim Beard Mar 2016 #19
Ross Perot? oberliner Mar 2016 #20
Bad management. moondust Mar 2016 #21
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