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In reply to the discussion: Krugman is getting close to the edge [View all]bvar22
(39,909 posts)105. I disagree.
"the average voter rejects the center-left view of our economic situation"
When polled independently ON THE ISSUES, The vast majority of American voters (Democrats & Republicans) AGREE with the Left's Economic view.
Here is what the MAJORITY of Americans (Democrats AND Republicans) want from OUR government!
In recent polls 2005!!! by the Pew Research Group, the Opinion Research Corporation, the Wall Street Journal, and CBS News, the American majority has made clear how it feels. Look at how the majority feels about some of the issues that you'd think would be gospel to a real Democratic Party:
1. 65 percent (of ALL Americans, Democrats AND Republicans) say the government should guarantee health insurance for everyone -- even if it means raising taxes.
2. 86 percent favor raising the minimum wage (including 79 percent of selfdescribed "social conservatives"
3. 60 percent favor repealing either all of Bush's tax cuts or at least those cuts that went to the rich.
4. 66 percent would reduce the deficit not by cutting domestic spending but by reducing Pentagon spending or raising taxes.
5. 77 percent believe the country should do "whatever it takes" to protect the environment.
6. 87 percent think big oil corporations are gouging consumers, and 80 percent (including 76 percent of Republicans) would support a windfall profits tax on the oil giants if the revenues went for more research on alternative fuels.
7. 69 percent agree that corporate offshoring of jobs is bad for the U.S. economy (78 percent of "disaffected" voters think this), and only 22% believe offshoring is good because "it keeps costs down."
http://alternet.org/story/29788/
8. Over 63% oppose the War on the Iraqi People.
9. 92% of ALL Americans support TRANSPARENT, VERIFIABLE elections!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x446445
The American People AGREE,
So where is the disconnect?
1) The disconnect happens in the Corporate Owned Media (both Left & Right) who force the national dialog into the very narrow gap on Economic Policy between the two Dominant Parties. NOBODY who calls for a return to the Tried & True successful Economic Policies of the 60s that built the biggest, wealthiest, and most Upwardly Mobile Middle/Working Class the WORLD has ever seen is allowed ANY oxygen or exposure. These people are simply NOT allowed on TV by either the Right or the (supposedly) Left outlets.
2) The Democratic Party's Inability (or unwillingness) to barnstorm America and actually SELL these Economic Policies in easy to understand English, a la Huey Long.
The Marketing Program for Health Care Reform was designed to fail.
You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
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He is a good economist who has no clue of the political realities of 21st century America
bluestateguy
Jun 2012
#2
Are you saying that Krugman might as well save himself the effort of offering good ideas?
ladjf
Jun 2012
#53
If his failing is that he underestimates the full effects of GOP obstructionism
Zalatix
Jun 2012
#35
He can. He's heard that argument. But he knows, logically, that when people in power
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#39
Krugman is doing the job he signed on to do. He informs the public, AND elected
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#86
I got here by way of a reference from Manny in another thread, and owe him for that.
Jackpine Radical
Jun 2012
#99
Remember LBJ needed 67 Votes not 60 to overcome the Filibuster on the Civil Rights Bill
happyslug
Jun 2012
#103
The problem is not with Krugman, it's with the politicians who have no clue of economic reality.
JVS
Jun 2012
#41
Krugman is doing a wonderful job of offering up a steady stream of good ideas about what
ladjf
Jun 2012
#52
I suspect he understands that political reality doesn't trump actual reality
TheKentuckian
Jun 2012
#55
You are a good person who has no clue of the realities of the current situation.
Jakes Progress
Jun 2012
#89
Bush spent it on war, a Keynesian would have flooded States w/ cash & kept public employees working
FarLeftFist
Jun 2012
#20
Bush spent not just in Iraq but DHS, TSA, Medicare Drugs, schools, CIA,
banned from Kos
Jun 2012
#23
Those "$300 checks" were loans, by the way. You paid it back on the following year's tax return.
PSPS
Jun 2012
#34
Bush & Cheney funneled the federal $$$ to their buddies and themselves, privatizing
suffragette
Jun 2012
#29
Well put. Bush's stimilus was real and in no way intended to benefit the middle class.
banned from Kos
Jun 2012
#51
Oh yeah, in No Country he's max-creepy. Have you seen him in Marquez' Love in the Time of Cholera? n
patrice
Jun 2012
#69
I used smaller words. I provided homey examples.... illustrated with cartoons....
jtuck004
Jun 2012
#22
HERE IS WHAT I THOUGHT WAS THE KEY PART OF DR. KRUGMAN'S ARGUMENT IN THE VIDEO
drynberg
Jun 2012
#57
K & R, excellent OT, CTHulu2016, excellent points in discussion, austerity talk
mother earth
Jun 2012
#61
The only thing that will finally sink into the nutjobs is "I told you so". Thats what happens
southernyankeebelle
Jun 2012
#85
I never bought the WMD in the first place. I blame the republicans for pushing it. I blame
southernyankeebelle
Jun 2012
#92