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Buddyblazon

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70. Totally different if you're a farmer...

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 09:58 PM

Mar 2016

Integrated Pest Management is a must. Now they could be using all organic pesticides and fungicides. There are many. Neem to name one. It's still smart to wear a bunny suit. Spray goes everywhere and even if it's organic it can irritate the skin. Poison ivy is organic. Don't want it to touch your skin.

If your crop is healthy, organic treatments are great
as preventative. If your crop comes down with a malady it's difficult to beat on a grand scale with organics.

These are just the facts of farming. Knew a certified organic tomato farmer that spent years trying to beat Russet Mites. Finally decertified just so he could spray something that would cure the problem...or he would've lost his farm.

I think it's important people start to educate themselves more on pesticides/fungicides. Not all are going to give you cancer. And many, if used at the proper time, are gone from the plant by the time harvest comes around.

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Do Organic Growers Use �Hazmat� Suits? [View all] HuckleB Mar 2016 OP

I don't OkSustainAg Mar 2016 #1

Internet claims are worthless, as are anecdotes. HuckleB Mar 2016 #3

I have shown OkSustainAg Mar 2016 #5

So your claims are not peer reviewed, nor replicated. HuckleB Mar 2016 #7

300 bushels of corn per acre, people could grow their own if zoning/neighborhood Ass. didn't ban it. Sunlei Mar 2016 #8

Another unsupported claim. HuckleB Mar 2016 #9

front yard crops Sunlei Mar 2016 #11

My garden is in the front yard. HuckleB Mar 2016 #13

Thats not allowed, its a crime in most neighborhoods across America. Lawns only. Sunlei Mar 2016 #14

Too many tomatoes. HuckleB Mar 2016 #15

that's pretty good for a front yard. If you had 50 tomato plants used an entire average front yard, Sunlei Mar 2016 #16

I only have six. HuckleB Mar 2016 #17

I grow 30 tomato plants every year Drahthaardogs Mar 2016 #57

Too many rats in Chicago. I got 2 tomatoes last year from 3 plants. AngryAmish Mar 2016 #38

My dogs,Jack russell and another mix, rats & any ground varmints don't have a chance here. Sunlei Mar 2016 #39

Ah, yeah. It could be the cat that helps for us. HuckleB Mar 2016 #43

I don't have a problem with animals eating my tomatoes, so I can't help you. HuckleB Mar 2016 #41

Then more neighborhoods need to be like yours. As it is, either zoning or the HOA Recursion Mar 2016 #79

Yeah, I'm lucky, I guess. HuckleB Mar 2016 #81

Most yards are far, far smaller than an acre REP Mar 2016 #21

Are you really trying to ruin that fantasy? HuckleB Mar 2016 #24

Sorry. REP Mar 2016 #25

Well, I'm not cutting down my trees, either. HuckleB Mar 2016 #27

But if you took down your trees, razed your house REP Mar 2016 #29

I'd have all kinds of corn, at the same time I can buy ears dirt cheap. HuckleB Mar 2016 #33

true, grow stuff that is expensive in the stores. I have raspberries, blackberries and table grapes. Sunlei Mar 2016 #44

Yeah, that's why I do lots of different "specialty" peppers, especially. HuckleB Mar 2016 #45

your chickens would eat the corn, they love it :) Sunlei Mar 2016 #40

I realize yards are smaller but I want people to know even a small yard can produce enough. Sunlei Mar 2016 #26

That assumes a lot REP Mar 2016 #28

start small with 10 "hills" and a pack of seeds and one doesn't need any of that other stuff Sunlei Mar 2016 #31

Some of that list would be a one time thing though. Lancero Mar 2016 #59

You wouldn't even need that much space Major Nikon Mar 2016 #42

Is insecticidal soap or horticultural oil "poison" to anything besides insects? Major Nikon Mar 2016 #53

Totally different if you're a farmer... Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #70

+1,000 ... 000 ... 000 HuckleB Mar 2016 #71

The organic raspberry farm I get my berries from here in NM womanofthehills Mar 2016 #73

Yeah, and nothing else. HuckleB Mar 2016 #78

Bwa ha ha. That OP screed has been so completely debunked. AxionExcel Mar 2016 #2

Yes, you are wasting our time. HuckleB Mar 2016 #4

I'm sure OCA, NaturalNews, and Mercola all have the scoop on it Major Nikon Mar 2016 #34

His/her favorite today: Henry Rowlands. HuckleB Mar 2016 #37

part of it is to keep from getting soaked & having to work outside dripping wet from head to toe Sunlei Mar 2016 #6

They sure do... SidDithers Mar 2016 #10

Some do; it helps with some of the fertilizers especially Recursion Mar 2016 #12

14 FACTS THE ORGANIC INDUSTRY DOESN�T WANT YOU TO KNOW HuckleB Mar 2016 #18

I use insecticidal soap in my greenhouse; you wouldn't want a face full of it REP Mar 2016 #19

Yup. HuckleB Mar 2016 #20

Most people don't get the difference between hobby gardens and industrial food production pediatricmedic Mar 2016 #22

But everyone's yard is at least an acre! REP Mar 2016 #23

They could but corns inexpensive. I got 400 dozen eggs a year off a quarter acre :P Sunlei Mar 2016 #30

True and discussions of that would be far more helpful than flamebait Gormy Cuss Mar 2016 #32

Sure, because this is just so much more mature and insightful Major Nikon Mar 2016 #35

Both you and the OP responded in that thread at length Gormy Cuss Mar 2016 #46

...and you refrained from pointing out the lack of maturity of that obvious flamebait OP Major Nikon Mar 2016 #48

So unless one comments in all absurd threads, one can't comment in any? Gormy Cuss Mar 2016 #49

The ones chosen to comment on is very telling Major Nikon Mar 2016 #52

I avoided that thread for much of the day. HuckleB Mar 2016 #51

Okay,, I'll address why I called it flamebait. Gormy Cuss Mar 2016 #54

That poster has a long history of promoting anti-GMO stances. HuckleB Mar 2016 #55

No, my history is that I'm pro-GMO labeling. Gormy Cuss Mar 2016 #62

No difference, unless you want labeling for all types of seed development technology. HuckleB Mar 2016 #67

Labelling products from all seeds would be acceptable. Gormy Cuss Mar 2016 #76

And that's because organic and non-GMO marketers are lying. HuckleB Mar 2016 #77

Yeah, it's horrible to point out that ludicrous anti-GMO memes are ludicrous. HuckleB Mar 2016 #36

I thought they worse that stuff, no matter what industry, for their own safety. Rex Mar 2016 #47

Plus, it looks cool. HuckleB Mar 2016 #50

Do organic farmers send creepy obscenity-laden DU mails? U4ikLefty Mar 2016 #56

Awesome! HuckleB Mar 2016 #58

Wait, you mean the personality disorders of Big-Agra shills U4ikLefty Mar 2016 #60

Wow! Now, you're promoting stigma for people with mental illness. HuckleB Mar 2016 #61

I don't equate mental illness with being an asshole with no boundaries. U4ikLefty Mar 2016 #63

Hypocrisy is a funny thing. HuckleB Mar 2016 #64

Guess you saw hypocrisy in the mirror. nt U4ikLefty Mar 2016 #65

I know you are, but what am I? HuckleB Mar 2016 #66

Already back to the third grade ROFL smileys? You must be out of bullets. U4ikLefty Mar 2016 #68

That's so cute. HuckleB Mar 2016 #69

Wow - it seems like your main interest in life is womanofthehills Mar 2016 #74

Wow -- it seems like your main interest in life is HuckleB Mar 2016 #75

Hey, what do you think about anti-GMO memes that are this deceitful? HuckleB Mar 2016 #83

Do anti-GMOers always push fictions and logical fallacies? HuckleB Mar 2016 #72

Back when I had an apiary my suit was even scarier Recursion Mar 2016 #80

Well, I hope you got pics! HuckleB Mar 2016 #82

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