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The Doctor.

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23. Then it wouldn't be Anonymous.

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 04:49 PM

Dec 2011

That is, if you really believe these people were actually harmed.

I'm finding people seem to have difficulty grasping this, but only actions that are taken within the stated mission of Anonymous are by Anonymous. Anonymous is a 'superconscious entity' or 'idea' that has very specific methods and goals.

Someone acting within those parameters is part of Anonymous. Someone acting outside of them is not.

Anonymous hacked Stratfor, liberated client lists and emails, and gave them a black eye. Whether the theft of credit card information fits within the stated goals and methods of Anonymous is a matter for debate.

Either way, I believe that people who want to do business with the devil are fair game. They don't want to be a target? Fine, then know who you're dealing with, the enemies they've made and laws they've bent, and take your lumps when they come.

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Anonymous' hackers target U.S. security think tank..steal credit cards to make charity donations [View all] HipChick Dec 2011 OP

This is dumb. randome Dec 2011 #1

They may have crossed the line with stealing credit card info and making fraudulent transactions HipChick Dec 2011 #2

I think so. MH1 Dec 2011 #6

I think that's definitely crossing the line. MineralMan Dec 2011 #13

Anonymous performed the initial hack, stole the records, and made the client list public. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #15

Nah, they are just imitating the ruling class! truedelphi Dec 2011 #45

Maybe...or maybe duhneece Dec 2011 #3

Embarrassed that they were hacked? Doubtful. Brickbat Dec 2011 #4

Why would they be 'creeps'? randome Dec 2011 #5

Ten four on the dumb donco Dec 2011 #24

I like the idea of hacking "security" firms mmonk Dec 2011 #7

There is no foolproof security on the Internet. randome Dec 2011 #10

Stealing credit card numbers and making fake donations. HappyMe Dec 2011 #8

All they did was break the law WolverineDG Dec 2011 #9

Horse puckey. MedicalAdmin Dec 2011 #11

And we know that every client of Stratfor can be accused of...what? randome Dec 2011 #12

Being a client of Stratfor. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #17

Especially ones that say they are security experts and then who don't encrypt of other wise protect MedicalAdmin Dec 2011 #18

So their clients deserve to have their money stolen? randome Dec 2011 #19

I never said that. MedicalAdmin Dec 2011 #21

It is still theft WolverineDG Dec 2011 #22

Actually, the notion that 'two wrongs make a right' is embedded soundly in our society. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #26

Rationalize it anyway you want WolverineDG Dec 2011 #27

And beef is beef... Modern_Matthew Dec 2011 #31

There is no 'moral high ground'. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #33

+1. backscatter712 Dec 2011 #38

Theft is theft. And it is wrong, no matter who does it nt WolverineDG Dec 2011 #39

Then it's time to stop putting people in jail. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #42

Yes. That is true. MedicalAdmin Dec 2011 #47

"Worry not, fellow pirates and robin hoods... Zorra Dec 2011 #14

"...the Spanish Inquisition?" randome Dec 2011 #16

No, that's not it, but don't lose any sleep over it. You never seemed to really get Occupy either. Zorra Dec 2011 #34

I think Anonymous crossed a line ohheckyeah Dec 2011 #20

Then it wouldn't be Anonymous. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #23

Why would Stratfor be the 'devil'? randome Dec 2011 #25

Stratfor does business with the Devil. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #32

Still no evidence they have anything to do with the Wikileaks discreditation. randome Dec 2011 #35

The media is doing their best The Doctor. Dec 2011 #44

I believe perception is important ohheckyeah Dec 2011 #36

True. The Doctor. Dec 2011 #40

You got that right. n/t ohheckyeah Dec 2011 #46

I don't think they went far enough. nt Modern_Matthew Dec 2011 #30

You're entitled to feel that way. ohheckyeah Dec 2011 #37

I can: The Doctor. Dec 2011 #41

Excuse me for having precious little security for Stratfor... backscatter712 Dec 2011 #28

I have been applauding Anonymous all year... Modern_Matthew Dec 2011 #29

Well given STRATFOR is just above Blackwater in the slime department nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #43

Ha, I love this Robin Hood stuff. valerief Dec 2011 #48