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muriel_volestrangler

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26. But it makes no sense that the body feels worse for the 7 months, not the 5

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:38 AM

Mar 2016

I think people have confused that they feel worse during most of spring, summer and autumn, with a change in the clocks. Of course a study in Central Europe can find people's waking-up time doesn't track sunrise in summer as well as it does in winter - because it becomes too early for them. In winter, later sunrises make your body want to stay in bed later. They didn't do an experiment with the people living through a summer without DST.

Yes, there are effects at the time of change - but they don't last 7 months. The natural signals of light and temperature mean that the body never keeps a precise 24 hour cycle through the entire year, and the idea that your body hasn't made the 60 minute adjustment after 200 days, even with light and temperature varying by more than an hour in that time, is absurd.

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Should America Stop Changing Its Clocks? [View all] erpowers Mar 2016 OP

Yes!! Chan790 Mar 2016 #1

This is already in use in weather forecasting Blues Heron Mar 2016 #4

that would be interesting treestar Mar 2016 #11

We would all celebrate the New Years at the same moment FLPanhandle Mar 2016 #14

The OP is talking about the spring forward, fall back thing, not time zones. n/t djean111 Mar 2016 #53

FLPanhandle was responding to me...and I said I also favored a switch to a UTC. n/t Chan790 Mar 2016 #86

Not a fan of UST (time IS relative after all!) but would love to see DST disappear. At least erase Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #31

Having the entire planet on one time zone is the dumbest idea I've heard in a long time. SheilaT Mar 2016 #77

Well, technically no. Chan790 Mar 2016 #84

In which case, why bother to make all the clocks read differently? SheilaT Mar 2016 #88

I am against the Universal Standard Time, Delphinus Mar 2016 #95

Note that when many people say they want to end "DST" they also mean to permanently stay on it. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #2

I don't care whether we keep daylight or standard time. MH1 Mar 2016 #27

Why? pangaia Mar 2016 #33

For me it's a pain in the Azz and truebluegreen Mar 2016 #56

One freaking hour? And it upsets your sleep cycle? SheilaT Mar 2016 #78

It disturbs lots of people's sleep cycles. Chan790 Mar 2016 #85

You're right, and an increase in strokes, too. phylny Mar 2016 #100

Why yes, yes it does. truebluegreen Mar 2016 #87

To pile on: it leaves me "hungover" for a month twice a year Nevernose Mar 2016 #102

Its fucks up my sleep too. Jim Beard Mar 2016 #109

Same as truebluegreen, squared, plus MH1 Mar 2016 #59

I agree about not changing the clocks. No good reason. pangaia Mar 2016 #74

Yeah, I've noticed that too (nt) Recursion Mar 2016 #97

What about winter mornings? Blues Heron Mar 2016 #3

I can't see how 1 hour LiberalElite Mar 2016 #47

How about when you get that hour back in the fall? SheilaT Mar 2016 #79

Yeah but pokerfan Mar 2016 #96

I'm down with it. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2016 #5

Agree. We're more of a 24/7 society now - with LiberalElite Mar 2016 #48

Stop changing the clocks twice a year. -none Mar 2016 #6

Standard time puts a lot of kids out in the dark TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #61

Why not change the time school starts and ends? MH1 Mar 2016 #65

Bus routes, after-school activities and work TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #67

Yes. DST sucks. CBGLuthier Mar 2016 #7

That makes no sense. pangaia Mar 2016 #35

Studies have proven a correlation between DST and strokes. CBGLuthier Mar 2016 #38

BUT I am not talking about TIME CHANGE !! pangaia Mar 2016 #41

You are making no sense. We are discussing the two times a year phenomenon CBGLuthier Mar 2016 #42

The clocks have to be changed to have LiberalElite Mar 2016 #50

I have, for what it's worth. nt bemildred Mar 2016 #8

I hate DST Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2016 #9

Really? You don't adjust over 7 months? muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #12

The ill effects of time changes have been well studied and documented etherealtruth Mar 2016 #18

But it makes no sense that the body feels worse for the 7 months, not the 5 muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #26

Studies appear to to back up the notion that the body does not fully adjust etherealtruth Mar 2016 #30

As I said, that's a bogus study muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #60

There are many, many studies (I did not cite the scholarly ones) that back this up etherealtruth Mar 2016 #69

Those are all about what happens *at the time of a change*; I'm talking about months after it muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #70

I would be inclined to believe that we all adapt on a continuum .... etherealtruth Mar 2016 #72

That would imply that people likewise never fully adjust SheilaT Mar 2016 #80

I am not sure what you mean ....???? etherealtruth Mar 2016 #83

But the effects of the switch between standard and daylight time SheilaT Mar 2016 #89

for you ... and generally for me etherealtruth Mar 2016 #91

First of all, the increase in heart attacks and such SheilaT Mar 2016 #92

That (Not you) is just stupid. pangaia Mar 2016 #36

Unfortunately it hs everything to do with reality in a highly ..... etherealtruth Mar 2016 #46

yes charlespercydemocrat Mar 2016 #108

Up until the Bush/Cheney regime, we were on Standard Time most of the year. raging moderate Mar 2016 #34

No, up until then, the USA was on DST for almost 7 months; now it's nearly 8 months muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #63

It may have something to do Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2016 #44

But the natural change in sunrise and sunset doesn't affect you muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #68

How do you travel? FLPanhandle Mar 2016 #17

I know.. I'm in stitches. pangaia Mar 2016 #37

I don't travel much Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2016 #45

There are numerous studies that document exactly what you say ..... etherealtruth Mar 2016 #21

If people never adjust, how does one move to Europe? TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #64

Moving to a different time zone is difficult .... etherealtruth Mar 2016 #71

I get terrible, terrible jet lag TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #73

As long as we get to stay on DST FLPanhandle Mar 2016 #10

YES!!!!!! etherealtruth Mar 2016 #13

Adjust the clocks MORE often, not less Califonz Mar 2016 #15

how do you handle that? Travis_0004 Mar 2016 #22

The only really smart statement here. good work... pangaia Mar 2016 #40

That logic doesn't apply to all of us. noamnety Mar 2016 #49

Going to school in the dark "is" dangerous TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #62

Im ok with the idea only if it was year round DST. Travis_0004 Mar 2016 #16

24 percent increase in heart attacks on monday after forward change restorefreedom Mar 2016 #19

yes Travis_0004 Mar 2016 #23

probably true for many, but hey, why save lives restorefreedom Mar 2016 #24

it could be argued that extra daylight allows people to be more active Travis_0004 Mar 2016 #55

i am not overly invested in which time frame we go with restorefreedom Mar 2016 #58

Get rid of clocks The2ndWheel Mar 2016 #20

Yes. onyourleft Mar 2016 #25

Yes. dchill Mar 2016 #28

YES Absolutely There's still only 24 hours in a day - plus LiberalElite Mar 2016 #29

I think we should consider having no time. pangaia Mar 2016 #32

Good debate question. Would you pledge to end DST? Hoyt Mar 2016 #39

YES! edhopper Mar 2016 #43

time change occurs before the end of winter MrsKirkley Mar 2016 #51

Here are some neat maps about that. sofa king Mar 2016 #52

Definitely. It takes me about a week to adjust when the clocks change. Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #54

Permanent Daylight Savings Time. earthside Mar 2016 #57

YES!!! oldandhappy Mar 2016 #66

Yes, please pokerfan Mar 2016 #75

I didn't think there were any companies left SheilaT Mar 2016 #82

People work all kinds of hours these days pokerfan Mar 2016 #94

Yes, pick a clock and stick with it, quit trying to reset me. braddy Mar 2016 #76

Yes! radical noodle Mar 2016 #81

Actually, it was chaotic when IN had standard time AwakeAtLast Mar 2016 #99

If the change doesn't happen, where I live in NJ, this would happen: no_hypocrisy Mar 2016 #90

Yes... Stuart G Mar 2016 #93

Memes.... pokerfan Mar 2016 #98

Yes. eom Purveyor Mar 2016 #101

Hell Yes libodem Mar 2016 #103

No Kingofalldems Mar 2016 #104

It tis stupid liberal N proud Mar 2016 #105

Yes itsrobert Mar 2016 #106

Only if it makes DST permanent. Warpy Mar 2016 #107

I don't understand why people want more daylight in the summer when Jim Beard Mar 2016 #110

Time rsneha Mar 2019 #111