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djean111

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14. I don't have an emotional investment in any candidate, I have an emotional investment in the issues.

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:48 AM

Mar 2016

This is not the time to be asking about the GE, IMO and all that. It presupposes our real disagreement on some pretty far-reaching issues is not important.

That being said, polls and questions aside, I don't think the kids are going to turn out for Hillary. What I am hearing - and remember, she is running on a no hope, no change, tiny tweaks platform, except what she glaringly steals from Bernie - I am hearing that neither candidate will make life any better whatsoever for the younger voters. May make it worse. Trade deals, no help with college costs, more wars. Who is going to vote for that?

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For Sanders Supporters [View all] skepticscott Mar 2016 OP

Loyalty oath time again already? Matt_in_STL Mar 2016 #1

Just the opposite skepticscott Mar 2016 #3

I thought Opposite Day.... daleanime Mar 2016 #13

this is th sunday one. nt restorefreedom Mar 2016 #50

"Nuts!" canoeist52 Mar 2016 #2

Patton? No! That was Anthony McAuliffe at Bastogne. longship Mar 2016 #93

Passed Bradical79 Mar 2016 #4

I don't think one is related to the other Renew Deal Mar 2016 #5

Been a Democrat all my life Cartoonist Mar 2016 #11

Or Bernie who became a Democrat only very recently oberliner Mar 2016 #16

It means nothing to me - LiberalElite Mar 2016 #17

The other poster wrote "Been a Democrat all my life, unlike Hillary" oberliner Mar 2016 #20

He's a lot closer to an FDR democrat and that is good enough for me LiberalElite Mar 2016 #21

You haven't supported any Democrats since FDR? oberliner Mar 2016 #86

Unlike Hillary who voted for the Iraq War, he votes like a Democrat! B Calm Mar 2016 #23

Amen..... daleanime Mar 2016 #26

Most Senate Democrats voted for the IWR oberliner Mar 2016 #84

And? Ned_Devine Mar 2016 #126

So voting for IWR = voting like a Democrat? oberliner Mar 2016 #132

Way off. Those "democrats" were voting like conservatives, but you know this Ned_Devine Mar 2016 #136

Conservative and Moderate Democrats are still Democrats oberliner Mar 2016 #166

But his belief system is more liberal than most (D)emocrats, so does that really matter? Ned_Devine Mar 2016 #167

Not only that... unflapped Mar 2016 #6

Yes, but ... left-of-center2012 Mar 2016 #7

Will I vote in a Loyalty Oath poll? djean111 Mar 2016 #8

This is about loyalty to principles skepticscott Mar 2016 #9

I don't have an emotional investment in any candidate, I have an emotional investment in the issues. djean111 Mar 2016 #14

As noted, the question was not about skepticscott Mar 2016 #18

I do agree with that part. It certainly is about loyalty to principles. Iggo Mar 2016 #46

I don't think it's even about loyalty; it's about what a danger Trump would be muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #81

It's about tagging people Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #146

As noted, DU is full of skepticscott Mar 2016 #148

Yeah, because DU has absolutely NO history Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #150

As noted, if you have a problem with that skepticscott Mar 2016 #154

I know this may come as a shock, Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #156

There's a difference between not being blindly loyal skepticscott Mar 2016 #159

I used one word Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #163

One word is all it takes skepticscott Mar 2016 #164

If Trump manages to squeak through the establishment gauntlet Kokonoe Mar 2016 #10

Only if I have to bigwillq Mar 2016 #12

And if enough people skepticscott Mar 2016 #19

I only get one vote. bigwillq Mar 2016 #87

Many enjoy enough privilege to do well in a Trump presidency hack89 Mar 2016 #15

There seem to be quite a few people who think that way skepticscott Mar 2016 #22

If I lived in a state where my vote might matter. Shoulders of Giants Mar 2016 #24

Everyone's vote matters skepticscott Mar 2016 #29

Your speaking about an alternate reality. Shoulders of Giants Mar 2016 #135

And at what margin of votes skepticscott Mar 2016 #137

I'll be sure and let you know. closeupready Mar 2016 #25

Sounds like surrender from the Hillary camp. JonathanRackham Mar 2016 #27

Who's from the "Hillary camp"? skepticscott Mar 2016 #30

+1 kristopher Mar 2016 #85

I will never vote for a fascist. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #28

Conscience sounds great on a computer screen skepticscott Mar 2016 #31

I am not sure what you are getting at. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #32

I think you know exactly what I'm getting at skepticscott Mar 2016 #35

Explain the difference between someone who will kill people by oligarchial Hunger Games... Kalidurga Mar 2016 #41

Are you asking me to explain the difference skepticscott Mar 2016 #55

Nope Kalidurga Mar 2016 #59

Nice dodge, but everyone reading this knows what names YOU meant skepticscott Mar 2016 #63

I am not the one that can't answer a simple question. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #66

If those are the only two choices skepticscott Mar 2016 #70

Finally you admit that we have an unpalatable candidate running for the Democratic nomination. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #76

Did you actually think that was something skepticscott Mar 2016 #78

Still no answer to any of my simple questions. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #90

Read post 70 again skepticscott Mar 2016 #114

So you're saying revbones Mar 2016 #33

No, I'm saying that skepticscott Mar 2016 #34

Seems to say that you're asking people to revbones Mar 2016 #36

How would allowing a Donald Trump presidency skepticscott Mar 2016 #37

You're equating not voting for Hillary revbones Mar 2016 #40

Withholding a vote for the Democratic candidate skepticscott Mar 2016 #43

It's not a Sophie's Choice revbones Mar 2016 #45

Do you agree with my statement or not? skepticscott Mar 2016 #49

Wow. So you don't get the answer you want so I'm dishonest now. Sheesh revbones Mar 2016 #54

Nice try, but I don't WANT any particular answer, just an honest one skepticscott Mar 2016 #60

And I gave you one. Multiple actually. revbones Mar 2016 #65

No, that's a dodge of the question skepticscott Mar 2016 #68

Just because you don't get the answer you want doesn't make it a dodge. revbones Mar 2016 #69

Yet another dodge skepticscott Mar 2016 #72

Wow. Did you even read my comment? revbones Mar 2016 #73

Most of this country doesn't vote anyway so your point is moot. Blue State Bandit Mar 2016 #61

Not at all skepticscott Mar 2016 #62

Real life?? Here are a couple of hints about what is Real Life. kristopher Mar 2016 #89

Hearh-hear! nt revbones Mar 2016 #104

You're assuming I support her over Sanders skepticscott Mar 2016 #118

Trump doesn't gain votes if someone votes for someone else. 0 - 0 = 0 Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #109

I hope you vote against one! WhiteTara Mar 2016 #133

Hopefully I won't have to vote against two. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #134

I've seen this before. Loudestlib Mar 2016 #38

No one here is skepticscott Mar 2016 #39

Pass. Iggo Mar 2016 #42

There should be something in between lumberjack_jeff Mar 2016 #44

In our system, unfortunately, there isn't skepticscott Mar 2016 #47

There is, and it's only one word; "maybe" lumberjack_jeff Mar 2016 #48

As I've noted elsewhere in this thread skepticscott Mar 2016 #51

Just so you know... Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #52

Well, do feel free skepticscott Mar 2016 #64

Many threads have been initiated declaring, "I will never vote for Hillary." Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #71

Well, stay tuned skepticscott Mar 2016 #74

Will they be reinstated in the likely even she loses the GE? Reter Mar 2016 #83

I couldn't say skepticscott Mar 2016 #97

I'm going to go with "secret ballot." dchill Mar 2016 #53

It won't be necessary.. in fact a better poll mountain grammy Mar 2016 #56

voting means I do not have to tell you! oldandhappy Mar 2016 #57

I could not, sorry AgerolanAmerican Mar 2016 #58

This loyalty oath thing needs to stop. Too many now almost daily. bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #67

I refuse to be blackmailed under any circumstances. nt Zorra Mar 2016 #75

So sad, skepticscott Android3.14 Mar 2016 #77

Good thing this isn't one skepticscott Mar 2016 #94

It sure looks like one Android3.14 Mar 2016 #131

Well, I intend on voting for Sanders Tuesday skepticscott Mar 2016 #138

I think it's a damn shame if any DUer doesn't vote for the Democratic nominee. cwydro Mar 2016 #79

Changes are a-comng. Iggo Mar 2016 #80

I think it's a damn shame if any human doesn't vote against Trump (nt) muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #82

Yes indeed. cwydro Mar 2016 #125

Any vote that isn't for Trump is a vote against him. I can't imagine a Svafa Mar 2016 #152

Sorry, but no skepticscott Mar 2016 #155

This message was self-deleted by its author Svafa Mar 2016 #158

1. Doesn't this belong in GD:P? LWolf Mar 2016 #88

No skepticscott Mar 2016 #96

I think Republicans will vote for her to prevent Donald Trump too lunatica Mar 2016 #91

IBTL. nt longship Mar 2016 #92

Should've been locked a long time ago. Iggo Mar 2016 #95

On what grounds? skepticscott Mar 2016 #98

At this point these questions are essentially spam. Scootaloo Mar 2016 #102

Well, if that's actually the case skepticscott Mar 2016 #121

GD:P, which will become GD: Election after the convention Scootaloo Mar 2016 #122

This is not about the primaries skepticscott Mar 2016 #123

The problem with your wording is that it is weaponized. Why not ask the nominee question about Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #99

IT'S A TRAP!!!11 AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #100

If you were a woodchuck, how much wood would you chuck, if you could chuck wood? Scootaloo Mar 2016 #101

How many loyaty oaths are we going to see in one week? arcane1 Mar 2016 #103

They're fishing. Iggo Mar 2016 #111

Who's "they"? skepticscott Mar 2016 #120

The question should be why you consider yourself the arbiter of what would revbones Mar 2016 #105

What makes you think I'm not going to? skepticscott Mar 2016 #112

If you're going to vote for Sanders then revbones Mar 2016 #113

Does it bother you skepticscott Mar 2016 #116

I don't care to understand you. revbones Mar 2016 #117

If you can point to anywhere skepticscott Mar 2016 #119

You seem to be judging others more critically than yourself revbones Mar 2016 #124

You're wrong skepticscott Mar 2016 #127

Unfortunately for you, I do not. revbones Mar 2016 #128

You've read my position multiple times in this thread skepticscott Mar 2016 #129

I would suggest you google "intellectual dishonesty" revbones Mar 2016 #130

More dodging skepticscott Mar 2016 #139

And you seem to be a master at revbones Mar 2016 #140

Another post full of skepticscott Mar 2016 #141

Are you looking in a mirror while you answer these? revbones Mar 2016 #142

This presumes that doing so would have any effect Spider Jerusalem Mar 2016 #106

this again? shanti Mar 2016 #107

Any loyalty oath thread??? (eom) mak3cats Mar 2016 #108

I'll hold my nose and vote for her... backscatter712 Mar 2016 #110

I will vote for her if she is the Democratic Nominee for President. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #115

The most notable thing about these threads skepticscott Mar 2016 #143

I clicked pass I don't think we have our backs to the wall yet. Todays_Illusion Mar 2016 #144

Sneaky way to get people banned here? Nice. Passed on poll. nt ladyVet Mar 2016 #145

Why would I want to get Sanders supporters banned? skepticscott Mar 2016 #147

Pass PowerToThePeople Mar 2016 #149

Good thing this isn't a loyalty oath. skepticscott Mar 2016 #160

The critical question is... gcomeau Mar 2016 #151

There is a difference between bad and worse, and it is far sharper than that between good and better KamaAina Mar 2016 #153

+1 skepticscott Mar 2016 #161

That's pretty good Shankapotomus Mar 2016 #157

Well, I suspect the most vocal skepticscott Mar 2016 #162

Choice between staus quo and fascism? bhikkhu Mar 2016 #165