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Warren Stupidity

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19. that is only part of the problem. Once a backdoor exists it can be exploited.

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 05:37 PM

Mar 2016

The current iphone device has no obvious back door, and is thus rather secure. By default you get 10 shots at guessing the password and then it deletes all its data. The government is demanding that apple create a new feature that defeats this and would allow automated unlimited password cracking. This feature, if apple loses, will be exploited and used by government agencies without warrants and by criminals looking to steal/exploit data. This feature, even if it is somehow not abused by our government or exploited by criminals, will be available to Russia, China, Iran, Saudi Arabia - and any other country that has enough clout to get access to it.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] DUbeornot2be Mar 2016 OP

I don't know what they expect to find on my phone about my taxes. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2016 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author DUbeornot2be Mar 2016 #3

Authoritarians always want to try to find 'reasonable' excuses to take away rights, especially Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2016 #4

he is saying the govt is going to spy on its citizen to enforce the "law" in general questionseverything Mar 2016 #2

GOTTA believe this framing designed to peel away Repubs on the phone issue Land Shark Mar 2016 #5

EFF: "Worried about Apple? California Has a Bill That Would Disable Encryption on All Phones" proverbialwisdom Mar 2016 #6

California is a joke of a state. Borderline authoritarian. LittleBlue Mar 2016 #8

Probably catch a lot of Pimps and not too street-smart drug dealers. PeoViejo Mar 2016 #7

it doesnt matter. Pretty much every "special extraordinary crime fighting tool" ends up being used Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #9

And he said 'with a warrant'. Why would you think phones are somehow 'special'? randome Mar 2016 #10

Problem is warrants seem to be handed out like candy these days davidn3600 Mar 2016 #12

Sounds like Obama is trying to define when a phone can be searched. Isn't that a good thing? randome Mar 2016 #14

Congress is on Big Brother's side davidn3600 Mar 2016 #15

no where in the article is "warrant" mentioned questionseverything Mar 2016 #20

Seems like the article didn't include his full quote. randome Mar 2016 #22

much better article here questionseverything Mar 2016 #23

And that's something to be concerned about. Really. randome Mar 2016 #25

they are openly admitting warrants not required...from the article questionseverything Mar 2016 #36

Because if someone can unlock it (Apple, NSA, Police) then anyone can unlock it when I have done.... Logical Mar 2016 #24

That's not what the FBI is asking for. They just want this one phone unlocked. randome Mar 2016 #27

And you see this not as a dangerous precedent when it comes to stripping of privacy protections? Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #28

I honestly don't see the difference between a phone and a ledger full of names & bribes. randome Mar 2016 #31

You and I disagree what common sense means. Apple should make it so NO ONE can unlock the phone..... Logical Mar 2016 #33

Then that means child pornographers are safe (yes, I know it's an overused trope but...) randome Mar 2016 #35

that is only part of the problem. Once a backdoor exists it can be exploited. Warren Stupidity Mar 2016 #19

He said don't take an absolutist view treestar Mar 2016 #11

I predict they will catch a lot more pot smokers than terrorists. Profit prisons need love too Doctor_J Mar 2016 #13

the whole thing is so basically anyone can be arrested at any time questionseverything Mar 2016 #21

Yes. Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #29

All the authoritarians want a gummint key to your data. Warren Stupidity Mar 2016 #16

I hope getting it involves getting a subpoena first lunatica Mar 2016 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author randome Mar 2016 #18

Were they not teaching the 4th Amendment during the years Obama was undertaking Constitutional... villager Mar 2016 #26

The 4th is a lot more annoying when you are on the side that wants to disregard it. Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #30

"A policeman's job is only easy in a police-state". n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #32

How about not passing a $400 billion corporate tax forgiveness bill? liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #34