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In reply to the discussion: 37 Million Bees Found Dead After Planting Large GMO Corn Field Treated With Neonicotinoid Class Of [View all]Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)110. And here you are, still flapping away with the fingers when it is apparently clear that you should
be brushing up on your reading comprehension skills. Please let me know exactly what part of....
FACT: I have been MAN ENOUGH to issue a retraction and formal apology more than once in my 10+ years here, and have NO PROBLEM admitting when I am wrong when it becomes 100% CLEAR that I AM wrong.
.... that it is that you DON'T comprehend and I will try to make it clearer for you, okay? It sounds like YOU are the one that needs to "grow up". You are beginning to act like an impetulant child pitching a fit because I won't just accept your word and bow down to you.
I have already admitted that I realize that bees DO NOT pollinate corn... but they ARE affected by the insecticides used if they drink water that has been contaminated by the insecticides which, incidentally, are used one both GMO and non-GMO corn seeds. Actually, the article I linked to really only mentioned the corn fields in the headline, while the article focused mainly on the insecticides.
Furthermore, you and others who make the claim that GM foods are scientifically proven to be safe are incorrect. YOU are pushing false propaganda with that. I have done a little bit of research, and here is what I found. Mind you, now, that I haven't had much time, and certainly can't make a fully informed decision in an hour or two
This is from 2015:
Media Reports That GMO Science Is Settled Are Flat-Out Wrong
In the wake of prominent media reports about supposed scientific agreement on the safety of genetically engineered food, including a cover story in National Geographic that equates concerns about GMOs with climate change denial, U.S. Right to Know is calling on media to accurately report that the science on GMOs is contradictory, unsettled, and has been largely controlled by corporations that profit from GMO seeds and the pesticides that go with them.
Unfortunately, many members of the media, and even some scientists, have been snookered by PR firms about a supposed scientific consensus on GMOs that doesnt exist, said Stacy Malkan, media director of U.S. Right to Know.
Seedy Business, a recent report by U.S. Right to Know, outlines how agrichemical firms have spent more than $100 million since 2012 on political and PR campaigns to shift the media narrative on GMOs. In a video removed from the Internet, the public relations firm Ketchum bragged about doubling positive media coverage on GMOs.
For an accurate picture of the science, U.S. Right to Know urged journalists to read a January 24 statement published in the journal Environmental Sciences Europe signed by 300 scientists, physicians and scholars that asserts there is no scientific consensus on the safety of GMOs.
The claim of scientific consensus on GMOs frequently repeated in the media is an artificial construct that has been falsely perpetuated, the peer-reviewed statement said. {emphasis mine}
Entitled No Scientific Consensus on GMO Safety, the statement does not take a position on whether GMOs are unsafe or safe. Rather, it cites a concerted effort by GMO seed developers and some scientists, commentators and journalists to construct the claim that there is a scientific consensus on GMO safety, and that debate on the topic is over.
{Much more at the link}
http://www.nationofchange.org/2015/02/21/media-reports-gmo-science-settled-flat-wrong/
In the wake of prominent media reports about supposed scientific agreement on the safety of genetically engineered food, including a cover story in National Geographic that equates concerns about GMOs with climate change denial, U.S. Right to Know is calling on media to accurately report that the science on GMOs is contradictory, unsettled, and has been largely controlled by corporations that profit from GMO seeds and the pesticides that go with them.
Unfortunately, many members of the media, and even some scientists, have been snookered by PR firms about a supposed scientific consensus on GMOs that doesnt exist, said Stacy Malkan, media director of U.S. Right to Know.
Seedy Business, a recent report by U.S. Right to Know, outlines how agrichemical firms have spent more than $100 million since 2012 on political and PR campaigns to shift the media narrative on GMOs. In a video removed from the Internet, the public relations firm Ketchum bragged about doubling positive media coverage on GMOs.
For an accurate picture of the science, U.S. Right to Know urged journalists to read a January 24 statement published in the journal Environmental Sciences Europe signed by 300 scientists, physicians and scholars that asserts there is no scientific consensus on the safety of GMOs.
The claim of scientific consensus on GMOs frequently repeated in the media is an artificial construct that has been falsely perpetuated, the peer-reviewed statement said. {emphasis mine}
Entitled No Scientific Consensus on GMO Safety, the statement does not take a position on whether GMOs are unsafe or safe. Rather, it cites a concerted effort by GMO seed developers and some scientists, commentators and journalists to construct the claim that there is a scientific consensus on GMO safety, and that debate on the topic is over.
{Much more at the link}
http://www.nationofchange.org/2015/02/21/media-reports-gmo-science-settled-flat-wrong/
I will stick to my free-range beef, chicken & pork, along with my pesticide/insecticide-free home grown vegetables, and avoid anything store-bought that has a GM or Monsanto label on it for now. You eat what you want to, and I will do the same.
I am also sorry, but I cannot apologize for using the headline to an article that I just read, that said it was printed a couple of weeks ago. I am NOT RESPONSIBLE for someone else's misleading headline, and have seen others get jumped on for making up their own headline before. I will stand by the content, which is that the pesticides/insecticides are killing the bees, and I am not 100% sure that GM foods are safe, and that goes for the GM crops that are fed to cattle, pigs and chickens, along with the antibiotics and growth hormones that they are given, too.
MY main concern, and reason for posting the article, is because I am concerned about the lack of bees and them dying off. Without bees, the whole world is screwed because crops, flowers and some trees will not be pollinated, which will cause a mass reduction in the food supply, as well as the oxygen put out by the leaves on the trees. Our Planet will start slowly dying, at first, then accelerate as the food supplies and oxygen start running out faster than it can be reproduced.
I hope you have a great rest of your evening, and a wonderful week ahead of you....
Peace to you and yours,
Ghost
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37 Million Bees Found Dead After Planting Large GMO Corn Field Treated With Neonicotinoid Class Of [View all]
Ghost in the Machine
Mar 2016
OP
That's extremely cool, congratulations! Hope this season turns out well for you
petronius
Mar 2016
#104
When pesticide kills all our bees - not to worry - we can get our honey from CUBA!!
womanofthehills
Mar 2016
#93
Here ------------------some added information......................to your piece..............
turbinetree
Mar 2016
#21
"Philpott is an anti-GMO hack."..... So what are you saying, that you're a "pro-GMO water carrier"..
Ghost in the Machine
Mar 2016
#52
The only thing I've seen debunked is that bees don't pollinate corn...
Ghost in the Machine
Mar 2016
#65
I *HAVE* read the responses, and they are conflicting... some pro-GMO, some anti-GMO
Ghost in the Machine
Mar 2016
#75
This is not the normal response to neonicotinoids. Usually, the bees become disoriented and ...
Buzz Clik
Mar 2016
#30
It was February in Ontario, so the neonics were clearly the cause of something.
HuckleB
Mar 2016
#36
Anytime terms like peered reviewed concensous are bandied about you know eyes are on this post.
CentralMass
Mar 2016
#58
They are clearly liberal science haters trying to hurt the noble purveyors of GMO crops and ..i.
CentralMass
Mar 2016
#49
No, the OP is not yet fully convinced, and you can't PROVE what *I* "know", so the
Ghost in the Machine
Mar 2016
#69
I posted something I JUST READ before posting! Do YOU see the date in the by-line?
Ghost in the Machine
Mar 2016
#81
"but now you know the reality" The reality that I know is that there is a Worldwide movement against
Ghost in the Machine
Mar 2016
#88
And here you are, still flapping away with the fingers when it is apparently clear that you should
Ghost in the Machine
Mar 2016
#110
You are now cherry picking one personality disorder, the only one pretty much
laundry_queen
Mar 2016
#121
Thank you for your post, Dickster. I just read a little while ago where the bees are dying
Ghost in the Machine
Mar 2016
#82
It is an apparently misleading headline, but is the one that went with the story.....
Ghost in the Machine
Mar 2016
#120
For the same reason I'm picturing an OP martyring itself in snitful righteousness
LanternWaste
Mar 2016
#151
This is why it is a really bad idea to politicize genetically modified foods.
PatrickforO
Mar 2016
#128