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karynnj

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20. It depends what the protesters do -- Burlington VT reacted well when the alien Trump monster came
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:21 PM
Mar 2016

Trump, to make a point, made an appearance in Burlington VT. He booked the town's live theatre venue, the Flynn Center, which has about 1,400 seats and proceeded to give out over 20,000 seats. His security people extracted promises from people they allowed in that they were already committed to Trump. Many Republicans who came from other areas --and even across Lake Champlain from NY, waited in line for about 4 hours when they heard the number of "tickets" given on Trump's web site, and were rejected at the door if they said they were undecided.

The protests consisted on many many people, some from groups, some by themselves showed up at City Hall Park across the street. Many carried signs with things like "Take your hate out of our state". The city itself silently backed the protesters by putting papers with giant letters up in the third (top) floor windows that read "we welcome refugees" and left the lights on.

A different kind of protester were people who lied to get into the Flynn and at different points booed things that Trump said. They then left when security ushered them out - some almost dancing when they came out the door into the town. Here, everything was peaceful - though Trump had created a seriously dangerous situation in so drastically giving out too many tickets.

Now, clearly the protesters, in their own city, in the part with candles and signs - sometimes singing songs, sometimes chanting clearly is not a problem. They were exercising their free speech. The protesters in the Flynn is a bit different, but they all left peacefully when asked. I would guess (I do not know anyone who did this) their motive was to prevent Trump from going unchallenged in their town. It was totally in your face that Trump even came there. However, it is true that he paid for the venue and he had a right to speak.

I wish that ALL the protesters had stayed outside with their peaceful signs targeting the real ugliness Trump represented. However, the media covered the entire Trump rally inside - as they seem to do all Trump rallies. The reality is that the media would not have given much coverage to the rallies outside - just the Trump rally. Given that, you might argue that people from the town were using their freedom of speech to say that Burlington did not agree with Trump. However, the truth is that few would agree if a regular performance of anything were disrupted.




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I don't know.... daleanime Mar 2016 #1
How was it working? jberryhill Mar 2016 #7
I don't think anyone would suggest going into the snake pit.... daleanime Mar 2016 #9
My personal opinion, with no backup except my gut, SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #2
His rallies should be surrounded by chanting masses randr Mar 2016 #3
Quite so Bragi Mar 2016 #8
Peaceful protests are fine leftynyc Mar 2016 #4
I support peaceful supporters bigwillq Mar 2016 #5
Stay away mikehiggins Mar 2016 #6
There you go. nt SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #11
I respectfully disagree, here's why Bragi Mar 2016 #15
Hold 'counter rallies' down the street for Hillary or Bernie. Keep it positive. 4139 Mar 2016 #10
And be ignored. n/t backscatter712 Mar 2016 #19
Yup. Got to keep that protesting confined to "First Amendment zones." LAGC Mar 2016 #46
I'll let Charles Pierce speak for me on the matter FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #12
Very true; he seems to be an expert at making protesters "part of the show" bhikkhu Mar 2016 #25
I'm pretty sure he already has. / FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #29
I concur, especially in the case of the stage jumper and the old fart who sucker punched the guy in Monk06 Mar 2016 #41
Protest give them an excuse to complain, in this case separation works. gordianot Mar 2016 #13
a poly sci prof once said hfojvt Mar 2016 #14
And if you do show up for confrontation, carry Ted Cruz signs world wide wally Mar 2016 #16
Good and Helpful jpak Mar 2016 #17
Silence is consent. backscatter712 Mar 2016 #18
It depends what the protesters do -- Burlington VT reacted well when the alien Trump monster came karynnj Mar 2016 #20
I wish the protests could be redirected maxrandb Mar 2016 #21
I say protest, the protesters are not coming off badly, he is flamingdem Mar 2016 #22
You may be onto something. On the whole, BIG demos are needed... Eleanors38 Mar 2016 #23
That's my feeling too. Stinky The Clown Mar 2016 #24
Trump pays for the venue but so does every other candidate The event itself is open to the public Monk06 Mar 2016 #43
Respectfully, you're wrong. Stinky The Clown Mar 2016 #44
You mean they send out invitations or charge admission? Seems private function in the context Monk06 Mar 2016 #47
Bad. It's fine to protest outside other people's rallies; it's not OK to shut them down. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2016 #26
Trump and his minions madamesilverspurs Mar 2016 #27
OK, you know...they were kicking people of color out for no reason. peace13 Mar 2016 #28
Protest is good. Interruption is not. KentuckyWoman Mar 2016 #30
not a good look Macattack1 Mar 2016 #31
The inconvenient truth is that TM99 Mar 2016 #32
Protesters who interrupt come off not looking all that good in the end davidn3600 Mar 2016 #33
Could help. Just remember the Civil Rights protesters who faced ugly mobs & police dogs... Hekate Mar 2016 #34
Thanks Flat Baroque for the Chas Pierce article. Okay, here's the plan... Hekate Mar 2016 #35
I've heard that line of reasoning before, actually. Stinky The Clown Mar 2016 #36
Well there you have it. Two wise men in accord. Hekate Mar 2016 #37
I think the media would ignore silent, peaceful protest. kwassa Mar 2016 #38
Media wouldn't be able to ignore 10,000+ people... Hekate Mar 2016 #39
Baloney. The media ignored 100's of thousands of people in the streets protesting an Iraq War. mnhtnbb Mar 2016 #42
I'm not for them NobodyHere Mar 2016 #40
When I caught on to exactly Mira Mar 2016 #45
Protest outside in force. romanic Mar 2016 #48
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