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Hekate

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35. Thanks Flat Baroque for the Chas Pierce article. Okay, here's the plan...

Reply to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 08:51 PM

Mar 2016

Pierce just says it so much better than I.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a42984/message-to-trump-protesters/

In terms of tangible political gain, the disruption of Trump's rally was a failure, which was obvious if you watched the coverage of his subsequent rallies in Missouri and Ohio. He feeds on this stuff, and so do his crowds.

My suggestion? Create a wave of non-violent protest outside the arenas. Close the streets. Fill the jails, if you must. Force the media coverage, which shouldn't be all that hard at this point. But stay out of the buildings because you can do no good in there. It gives aid and comfort to the forces you are trying to defeat, and it gives a timorous elite political press an excuse to look the other way, and it gives the other candidates from a party that long ago descended into madness one more hallucination to justify why it's eating bugs in public.

Stay out of the buildings. Decline to audition for a part in the freak show. Silent witness can be the most powerful kind there is.

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Protesters at Trump Rallies: Good or bad? Helpful or unhelpful? Worth the effort or not? [View all] Stinky The Clown Mar 2016 OP

I don't know.... daleanime Mar 2016 #1

How was it working? jberryhill Mar 2016 #7

I don't think anyone would suggest going into the snake pit.... daleanime Mar 2016 #9

My personal opinion, with no backup except my gut, SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #2

His rallies should be surrounded by chanting masses randr Mar 2016 #3

Quite so Bragi Mar 2016 #8

Peaceful protests are fine leftynyc Mar 2016 #4

I support peaceful supporters bigwillq Mar 2016 #5

Stay away mikehiggins Mar 2016 #6

There you go. nt SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #11

I respectfully disagree, here's why Bragi Mar 2016 #15

Hold 'counter rallies' down the street for Hillary or Bernie. Keep it positive. 4139 Mar 2016 #10

And be ignored. n/t backscatter712 Mar 2016 #19

Yup. Got to keep that protesting confined to "First Amendment zones." LAGC Mar 2016 #46

I'll let Charles Pierce speak for me on the matter FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #12

Very true; he seems to be an expert at making protesters "part of the show" bhikkhu Mar 2016 #25

I'm pretty sure he already has. / FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #29

I concur, especially in the case of the stage jumper and the old fart who sucker punched the guy in Monk06 Mar 2016 #41

Protest give them an excuse to complain, in this case separation works. gordianot Mar 2016 #13

a poly sci prof once said hfojvt Mar 2016 #14

And if you do show up for confrontation, carry Ted Cruz signs world wide wally Mar 2016 #16

Good and Helpful jpak Mar 2016 #17

Silence is consent. backscatter712 Mar 2016 #18

It depends what the protesters do -- Burlington VT reacted well when the alien Trump monster came karynnj Mar 2016 #20

I wish the protests could be redirected maxrandb Mar 2016 #21

I say protest, the protesters are not coming off badly, he is flamingdem Mar 2016 #22

You may be onto something. On the whole, BIG demos are needed... Eleanors38 Mar 2016 #23

That's my feeling too. Stinky The Clown Mar 2016 #24

Trump pays for the venue but so does every other candidate The event itself is open to the public Monk06 Mar 2016 #43

Respectfully, you're wrong. Stinky The Clown Mar 2016 #44

You mean they send out invitations or charge admission? Seems private function in the context Monk06 Mar 2016 #47

Bad. It's fine to protest outside other people's rallies; it's not OK to shut them down. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2016 #26

Trump and his minions madamesilverspurs Mar 2016 #27

OK, you know...they were kicking people of color out for no reason. peace13 Mar 2016 #28

Protest is good. Interruption is not. KentuckyWoman Mar 2016 #30

not a good look Macattack1 Mar 2016 #31

The inconvenient truth is that TM99 Mar 2016 #32

Protesters who interrupt come off not looking all that good in the end davidn3600 Mar 2016 #33

Could help. Just remember the Civil Rights protesters who faced ugly mobs & police dogs... Hekate Mar 2016 #34

Thanks Flat Baroque for the Chas Pierce article. Okay, here's the plan... Hekate Mar 2016 #35

I've heard that line of reasoning before, actually. Stinky The Clown Mar 2016 #36

Well there you have it. Two wise men in accord. Hekate Mar 2016 #37

I think the media would ignore silent, peaceful protest. kwassa Mar 2016 #38

Media wouldn't be able to ignore 10,000+ people... Hekate Mar 2016 #39

Baloney. The media ignored 100's of thousands of people in the streets protesting an Iraq War. mnhtnbb Mar 2016 #42

I'm not for them NobodyHere Mar 2016 #40

When I caught on to exactly Mira Mar 2016 #45

Protest outside in force. romanic Mar 2016 #48