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WhaTHellsgoingonhere

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68. Keep in mind, DU is only uniformly Progressive when there's a R in office

Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:04 AM

Mar 2016

when it's a Democratic administration, the Third Way seperates. Its something I noticed very early during the Obama admin. That said, I believe the cheering is consistent with DU, where you have Third Wayers constantly butting heads with Progressives. The DLC, Third Way is a failed relic, and the mood of the country is rife for an FDR Democrat to lead the Party. If Bernie was running against a Third Way white man, he'd likely win comfortably. Unfortunately, Bernie is losing 100% of a key demographic: the "Who's Bernie Sanders?" demo.

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Cheering on a moderate SCOTUS choice [View all] SHRED Mar 2016 OP

Because he believes it is the best chance to get someone confirmed democrattotheend Mar 2016 #1

I'm sick of the half-a-loaf (if that) way Obama treats Progressives SHRED Mar 2016 #4

It's not just you. Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #33

It's not just you. n/t Contrary1 Mar 2016 #35

Ring of Fire agrees with you on this SCOTUS choice earthshine Mar 2016 #49

Tell it !!!!!!!!!!!!!! SamKnause Mar 2016 #78

no guts Skittles Mar 2016 #50

yep nt grasswire Mar 2016 #53

Exactly. SamKnause Mar 2016 #77

Not just you 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #52

It's not just you !!! SamKnause Mar 2016 #76

Replacing the most far right person with a moderate moves the court to the left. pnwmom Mar 2016 #83

With a hard-core right winger like Scalia who Hortensis Mar 2016 #87

I'm irritated at childish fussing from people who Hortensis Mar 2016 #86

Because Garland is so f'ing far to the left of Scalia they're not in the same universe. CincyDem Mar 2016 #7

"Because Garland is so f'ing far to the left of Scalia they're not in the same universe." PragmaticLiberal Mar 2016 #13

Half a loaf for the peons again. 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #54

It's better than starving to death. n/t pnwmom Mar 2016 #84

Not while the rich have it all 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #88

The bottom line is we're going to have a much more progressive court with Scalia -- pnwmom Mar 2016 #89

That's ~20-30 years of chewing. nt revbones Mar 2016 #57

But easier to digest Matrosov Mar 2016 #70

Guess that's why we have a Democratic president revbones Mar 2016 #71

I blame the system Matrosov Mar 2016 #72

Meh, I blame the person making the nomination revbones Mar 2016 #73

So Orrin Hatch is now dictating Obama's SCOTUS choices? tularetom Mar 2016 #9

My thoughts also SHRED Mar 2016 #14

In eight years, I've seen Obama fight for exactly four things: earthshine Mar 2016 #48

Wow good point 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #56

K&R. Obama's legacy stated clearly. nt COLGATE4 Mar 2016 #58

I can think of a few more things thesquanderer Mar 2016 #67

I distinguish between things he accomplished and things he fought for. earthshine Mar 2016 #75

Excellent video. SamKnause Mar 2016 #79

"He nominated the guy Orrin Hatch asked for" isn't exactly a confidence-booster. arcane1 Mar 2016 #34

Sheesus... 24 years of this ideology has left us happy that we didn't step in the dog shit wearing WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2016 #36

Excellent analogy !!!!!!!!!!!! SamKnause Mar 2016 #80

^^^ This is why we are fucked, people settle for the god damn crumbs instead of demanding the bread onecaliberal Mar 2016 #61

Go Team Donkey! TransitJohn Mar 2016 #2

If they don't give him a hearing then choosing a "moderate" helps make the PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #3

Yeah...It's all about Repukes... SHRED Mar 2016 #6

Last I checked Republicans control the Senate. They cannot really be ignored... PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #8

With that in mind... SHRED Mar 2016 #11

Hurrah to the third way Kittycat Mar 2016 #5

In other words, waste everyone's time but be ideologically pure. FLPanhandle Mar 2016 #10

He's not getting anyone through SHRED Mar 2016 #12

Maybe not, but this is the nominee with the best chance. FLPanhandle Mar 2016 #16

I don't see how this improves voter turnout... SHRED Mar 2016 #20

Explain how nominating a guaranteed-to-fail lefty judge would help voter turnout Orrex Mar 2016 #40

That's the whole point. NYC Liberal Mar 2016 #62

I have been meaning to tell you that I saw your post the other day that was locked... Lochloosa Mar 2016 #15

Thanks! FLPanhandle Mar 2016 #17

That was my playground growing up. Raised in Tallahassee. Lived in Pensacola and Mobile. Lochloosa Mar 2016 #23

Great place to grow up. FLPanhandle Mar 2016 #32

Oh man..that makes me homesick. I used to camp on the beach at Ft. Pickens. Nothing like the Gulf. Lochloosa Mar 2016 #37

The "real world" defines that we are a corrupt nation who doesn't hold up to Baitball Blogger Mar 2016 #18

When was this ideal yesteryear? FLPanhandle Mar 2016 #25

I can't buy into your skepticism. Baitball Blogger Mar 2016 #41

He had other candidates who were as if not more COLGATE4 Mar 2016 #59

It doesn't matter who President Obamam nominated whistler162 Mar 2016 #66

+1 I'm shocked at these demands treestar Mar 2016 #92

"the edge of its corporate right wing cliff. " oioioi Mar 2016 #19

Both. gcomeau Mar 2016 #27

Orrin Hatch is a despicable bigot. 'Let's take his council, he called LGBT Nazis!!!' Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #21

Preach it! SHRED Mar 2016 #22

I agree with you 100%. +1 Meldread Mar 2016 #24

Compromising with himself zipplewrath Mar 2016 #31

Obama is an expert at negotiating COLGATE4 Mar 2016 #60

Settling for what the right gives us... gcomeau Mar 2016 #26

Well, it's an improvement, I guess. HassleCat Mar 2016 #28

The Democratic Party is now firmly to the right of center. djean111 Mar 2016 #29

I guess that the best answer that I have is that PBO R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2016 #30

i see this as "the offer they cannot refuse" 0rganism Mar 2016 #38

the most popular reason for rejecting him en toto seems to be Hatch's tactical endorsement LanternWaste Mar 2016 #39

Be ideologically pure ... get nothing ... great strategy. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #42

Not only get nothing, but perhaps let the GOP keep the Senate Democat Mar 2016 #65

"Why couldn't Obama have picked a true Progressive minded judge?" Waldorf Mar 2016 #43

Oh like they are now? SHRED Mar 2016 #44

Should have just nominated the unicorn Action_Patrol Mar 2016 #45

Some people still haven't learned from the ACA debacle. Odin2005 Mar 2016 #46

We won on the "ACA debacle." It got passed and almost 20 million more have insurance. nt pnwmom Mar 2016 #85

The Healthcare industry "won", not the American people. Odin2005 Mar 2016 #90

Tell that to the millions of single people now eligible for Medicaid pnwmom Mar 2016 #91

Because it's to replace a uber conservative justice One_Life_To_Give Mar 2016 #47

I'm not cheering, but I know it's not obama's final answer Scootaloo Mar 2016 #51

Ah, would that the world were so one dimensional, black and white, so simple Stinky The Clown Mar 2016 #55

Obama has been a very good president for progressives, whether we all realize it or not. Zynx Mar 2016 #63

Milk Toast... ever have milk toast? Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #64

Keep in mind, DU is only uniformly Progressive when there's a R in office WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2016 #68

The Democratic party doesn't exist in a vacuum Matrosov Mar 2016 #69

Sotomayor is a moderate... Blue_Tires Mar 2016 #74

I think it was a good and smart choice ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #81

Does the judge have a history? immoderate Mar 2016 #82