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DetlefK

(16,670 posts)
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 06:06 AM Mar 2016

Foreigner has question about primaries [View all]

As I understood it, Hillary Clinton is faring better than Bernie Sanders in red states. Is that correct?


Now, let's assume that Bernie Sanders is faring better than HRC in blue states.
Wouldn't that make Hillary Clinton the candidate of choice for the Democrats?


In a broad generalization:

- HRC winning Democrats in a red state means that she's culturally more in tune with that state than Bernie. And that means that she has a good chance to siphon republican voters in that state in the general election. At the same time, Bernie is doing better in a blue state than HRC, meaning that he's culturally more in tune with that state than HRC. Bernie has a worse chance to siphon republican voters in the general election.

- On the other side, blue states in general can be considered relatively safe, because the republican candidates are exceptionally horrible this election-year. It's unlikely that the republican candidate will make significant wins in a blue state.



Yes, it's just a broad generalization, it's cold-hearted politics, the red-state-blue-state antagonism is unrealistic and my personal political preferences are closer to those of Bernie Sanders, but still...

If HRC is better at winning votes in red states than Bernie, and if there's little risk for blue states to flip red, wouldn't that make HRC the better candidate?

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No, every state count in the primaries. leftofcool Mar 2016 #1
The calculation is rogerashton Mar 2016 #2
It doesn't mean those states will flip BainsBane Mar 2016 #3
Mostly what Bains says, except there is something to Hortensis Mar 2016 #6
Except for the RW Hillary bashing of the last 20 years... Wounded Bear Mar 2016 #7
We are not talking about the base, though. Hortensis Mar 2016 #8
Most media discussions implicitly assume independents are in-between Dem and Repug lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #9
Reality matters. Most indies reliably vote for the Hortensis Mar 2016 #10
Nice theory, completely refuted by the polls. lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #12
The GE will be entirely different. Bernie could be Hortensis Mar 2016 #16
Hillary will be the next Spiro Agnew or John Edwards lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #17
No, now you're just wishful-thinking. Lago, Hortensis Mar 2016 #20
No, Hillary is lying about what Bernie can achieve lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #21
IMO, your post is very disconnected from reality. Hortensis Mar 2016 #22
Absolutely, it will be nice to feel good and hopeful. lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #23
Hope is good, as long as it is built on possibilities Hortensis Mar 2016 #24
If HRC ends up being our nominee, obviously I will do what I have to... lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #25
IMO, Donald Trump might just be the best Hortensis Mar 2016 #29
In the general, the concern is the "purple" states that are must wins cally Mar 2016 #4
i read about that sanders does much better with independent voters redruddyred Mar 2016 #5
Sanders pointed this out; CNN's latest poll confirms it: Sanders is far superior in the GE lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #11
Those southern states are not going to flip oberliner Mar 2016 #13
Siphoning voters in red states doesn't do her any good if she doesn't WIN the state. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #14
Playing Pug-Lite is as supid now as it has always been lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #18
Agreed. A big chunk of the party seems to be rejecting the current center-left positioning. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #19
GDP is two blocks to the left bigwillq Mar 2016 #15
This is within the universe of Democratic primary voters. RandySF Mar 2016 #26
Questions about the Democratic primaries from all nationalities go in GD-Primaries KamaAina Mar 2016 #27
Anyone who think Clinton is going to siphon support from republicans in red states onecaliberal Mar 2016 #28
Keep in mind the electoral college Ruby the Liberal Mar 2016 #30
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