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ryan_cats

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10. Unintended consequences

Reply to EmperorHasNoClothes (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 09:32 AM

Mar 2016

Unintended consequences. I love how people bleat on and on about a $15 an hour wage and when these things happen, which people like me always mention, are actually shocked.

This is what happens when you screw with one variable in a complex system to forward a social agenda without any actual real world experience to guide or justify the process.

I, for one, don't want to pay $10 for a Big Mac so the SJW class can sleep at night as we all know they'll never sleep as long as there is perceived injustice in the world.

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Fast-Food CEO invests in machines because screw the employees [View all] EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 OP

Hey, those employees who lose their jobs can just get one of the multitude of new jobs the TPP and djean111 Mar 2016 #1

They'll have to move to SE Asia if they want those minimum wage jobs. EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #5

As I recall, under the first Clinton oligarchy they were called "good-paying jobs of the future." highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #55

The jobs we Millennials were told were would have if we just... Odin2005 Mar 2016 #68

I don't blame you. Join the club. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #75

Great! tazkcmo Mar 2016 #2

He won't see either me or any of my money at one of his restaurants hobbit709 Mar 2016 #3

More proof Republicans have no idea of how the economy works -none Mar 2016 #4

Exactly. And this is why strong worker protections are so critical. EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #9

And that is why we need Bernie and to drag the Democratic party back to Center and Center Left. -none Mar 2016 #27

Even Henry Ford understood this almost 100 years ago. Tracer Mar 2016 #52

wow wobble Mar 2016 #6

In a world of robot-workers, who can afford to buy products? DetlefK Mar 2016 #7

Maybe once he gets rid of all the humans EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #13

And start the cycle all over again. -none Mar 2016 #29

Lather, rinse, repeat. mac56 Mar 2016 #31

Everything becomes dirt cheap. Oneironaut Mar 2016 #14

But this would mean a massive overhaul of the way unemployment is treated. DetlefK Mar 2016 #20

Welcome to the problems of capitalism. Xolodno Mar 2016 #37

You cannot force economic growth and the creation of job-openings. DetlefK Mar 2016 #57

That's not forcing economic growth... Xolodno Mar 2016 #60

Could be more like the problems of technology The2ndWheel Mar 2016 #80

Culling the herd, so to speak Autumn Colors Mar 2016 #39

This is exactly the "internal contradictions" of Capitalism Marx talked about 150 years ago. Odin2005 Mar 2016 #71

It's not because 'screw the employees.' 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #8

I get $968/mo. on SS. I couldn't afford a new car no matter what. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #34

On the side of technology and modernisation 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #40

"You can probably afford a bicycle" Kittycat Mar 2016 #65

Unintended consequences ryan_cats Mar 2016 #10

Wow. EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #15

I am ryan_cats Mar 2016 #21

WTF? EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #26

You are not alone in your assessment. -none Mar 2016 #32

You leave one question unanswered. 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #35

Costco pays its workers a living wage. Walmart does not brush Mar 2016 #41

What you're describing is otherwise known as a "race to the bottom." trotsky Mar 2016 #64

Ryan Cats is saying some important and realistic things. 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #30

Costco pays its workers a living wage. Walmart does not brush Mar 2016 #42

Yes, but why is Costco thriving? 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #46

Costco is likely already using as much automation as it practically can. Note that... PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #50

It's thriving because of better, innovative management . . . brush Mar 2016 #54

Also.. Kittycat Mar 2016 #70

Yes, yes, yes. Henry Ford did the same so his workers could buy his cars. brush Mar 2016 #73

Costco pays its workers a living wage. Walmart does not brush Mar 2016 #45

The Magical World Where McDonald's Pays $15 an Hour? It's Australia trotsky Mar 2016 #18

We really shouldn't belong to the same political Party. We really shouldn't. nt stillwaiting Mar 2016 #19

You ryan_cats Mar 2016 #36

Tell you what. mac56 Mar 2016 #38

I'm confused how you align with Sanders. Kittycat Mar 2016 #72

There are a few "Sanders supporters" here who can't maintain the gimmick n/m ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2016 #82

Prove It ProfessorGAC Mar 2016 #53

$21/Hr? Not all that different at checkout Kittycat Mar 2016 #69

Your slip has been showing for A LONG TIME ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2016 #81

Wrong website Marrah_G Mar 2016 #87

Your Colon begs you edhopper Mar 2016 #11

That too. EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #16

Everyone wants more for less The2ndWheel Mar 2016 #12

The essanse of capitalist morality Tom Rinaldo Mar 2016 #17

Humans Need Not Apply (must watch video) ghostsinthemachine Mar 2016 #22

Foolish humans. mac56 Mar 2016 #23

Thread over! Initech Mar 2016 #25

Trump knows that the blame lies not with American CEO's but with Mexicans, Chinese, Japanese and pampango Mar 2016 #24

Yeah but what is he gonna do with yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #67

Nobody's going to run a business as a charity to give people jobs, though Recursion Mar 2016 #28

Finally, somebody who speaks some sense. 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #86

I still remember going into places that had human elevator operators. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #33

It really doesn't matter if the employees are paid 50 cents per hour Major Nikon Mar 2016 #47

Who will be left to buy their shitty burgers? titaniumsalute Mar 2016 #43

I'm pretty sure their employees aren't a significant source of revenue for them... PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #51

Well my point was more of a grande statement... titaniumsalute Mar 2016 #58

And here I was boycotting them because their food is shitty Major Nikon Mar 2016 #44

I'd boycott them but I already wasn't eating there. Erose999 Mar 2016 #48

Another prediction come true from Idiocracy n2doc Mar 2016 #49

Y'all going to be singing the same tune when renewable energy eliminates coal miners? MindPilot Mar 2016 #56

Hey Andy! Who's gonna sell Carl's Jr./Hardee's hamburgers to the robots? muntrv Mar 2016 #59

Robots are the future. It's coming. leftyladyfrommo Mar 2016 #61

Its not a matter of if they will lose their jobs, its when. Xolodno Mar 2016 #62

Train for what? peabody Mar 2016 #90

Just as the prophecy of "Idiocracy" predicted years ago... GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #63

Here's the question that I always have when I see stuff like this. WillowTree Mar 2016 #66

That would obviously be better EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #78

Which jobs are likely to be around 5 years from now? The2ndWheel Mar 2016 #84

order taking is a 'trouble spot' fastfood could improve with a machine. Sunlei Mar 2016 #74

Because why interact with another human being when you could tap buttons on a computer? EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #79

for 'fastfood' yes, especially drive through & online. Sunlei Mar 2016 #85

If I'm eating fast food SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2016 #89

GOP would want him as president with an attitude like that. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #76

IMHO Puzder is just using this as a fearmongering tactic. Gormy Cuss Mar 2016 #77

Wage costs are an incentive to seek automation or workarounds 1939 Mar 2016 #83

Government does not drive up the cost of labor, fuck Carl's Jr. Rex Mar 2016 #88