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freedom fighter jh

(1,784 posts) Sun Mar 20, 2016, 07:22 PM Mar 2016

Can we stop calling him "Drumpf"? [View all]

My understanding is that "Drumpf" was Trump's father's, or maybe grandfather's, name, and he changed it to make it sound more American. Drumpf was German.

When someone calls Trump "Drumpf," I guess they're trying to remind readers of Trump's immigrant, specifically German, ancestry. The implication seems to me to be "Look, he's German; he must be evil." I think DU is better than to think that way. In the last century, an evil man led Germany and brought out the evil in many -- too many -- of his countrymen. That is a stain on German history. But that does not make Germans evil generally, nor does it give anyone license to refer to them as such.

For the record -- I guess it's relevant here -- I'm Jewish, and I have close friends who are German. I simply don't think my friends are responsible for the Holocaust, so I see no reason not to have them as friends.

The Drumpf thing just sounds racist to me. Trump would be a nightmare of a president. That is not because his ethnicity is part German.

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Can we stop calling him "Drumpf"? [View all] freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 OP

Drumpf, Drumpf, Drumpf, Drumpf! longship Mar 2016 #1

I find it tough to argue with that. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #3

I'm with you there, mein freund. forest444 Mar 2016 #52

i think maybe i have to amp the kraut + add umlauts to my name. closer to the RIGHT spelling of it. pansypoo53219 Mar 2016 #101

How to type umlauts Jim Lane Mar 2016 #111

WordPerfect is still around? Sanity Claws Mar 2016 #127

I know what you mean about attachments. I've been pushing OpenOffice. Jim Lane Mar 2016 #137

In Windows, I've used the Character Map to find, copy and paste international characters... backscatter712 Mar 2016 #145

Try the Alt codes: forest444 Mar 2016 #121

Same here. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2016 #142

I prefer Der Trumpf, myself. n/t SusanaMontana41 Mar 2016 #113

He'll always be "The Donald." Nothing is as stupid as that. Hortensis Mar 2016 #161

Not to jump on the German bandwagon... TipTok Mar 2016 #124

Trump is a phony, made up name Warpy Mar 2016 #55

I didn't get a Drumpf outta that guy! didact Mar 2016 #148

Well played! ROFL! nt longship Mar 2016 #149

How 'bout Donald Dump? lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #169

I agree with this assessment Skittles Mar 2016 #2

Thanks. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #4

I don't care much for any name calling... Blanks Mar 2016 #58

Excellent post freedom fighter jh autorank Mar 2016 #117

Thanks, Auto. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #152

He's earned the opposite of respect. backscatter712 Mar 2016 #144

I was going to say we're not better then that but you just posted so... Ellipsis Mar 2016 #10

Yes. Even jerks. nt SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #18

I make an exception for Mr. Stubby Fingers. nt Hekate Mar 2016 #27

We could just call him "That Short-Fingered Vulgarian" but it's too long to type. csziggy Mar 2016 #66

Isn't it Charles Pierce who calls him "the vulgar talking yam"? Hekate Mar 2016 #67

Apparently so - but I had not seen that one! csziggy Mar 2016 #71

+1 Hiraeth Mar 2016 #92

It seems to me to be "Look, he's the descendant of immigrants; but he hates immigrants." KamaAina Mar 2016 #5

That is edhopper Mar 2016 #11

I agree.............. MyOwnPeace Mar 2016 #24

That being said, the meme is getting kind of stale KamaAina Mar 2016 #147

Well in old english Drumpf literally means To Take a Dump. Rex Mar 2016 #6

The original context Trenzalore Mar 2016 #7

Thanks for the context. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #17

Yup. That's it. progressoid Mar 2016 #63

Yes! This. HuckleB Mar 2016 #90

^^^This!^^^^ Anybody who insists on calling him Trump after seeing this Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #125

Yes. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2016 #153

no HERVEPA Mar 2016 #8

You have a point. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #9

Thanks for that information. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #19

Google "Crystal City, Texas." Thousands of Germans were interned during LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #38

i suppose they could have tried to wall in milwaukee, but we are full of others. just stopped print pansypoo53219 Mar 2016 #103

In a way it's reminiscent IMHO LiberalElite Mar 2016 #12

Exactly. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #20

Yes. 840high Mar 2016 #21

Good point. n/t Chemisse Mar 2016 #31

The Drumpf family changed the name to Trump to sound more British. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #13

Thanks for that correction. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #23

And who is more racist than the British royal family? So yes Trump is a racist who is ashamed of Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #143

I've adopted Herr Hair. KentuckyWoman Mar 2016 #14

Herr Hair? Hear, hear! GaYellowDawg Mar 2016 #116

Germans aren't a race. n/t BlueStater Mar 2016 #15

Yeah but Rex Mar 2016 #32

You are wrong Bucky Mar 2016 #86

son of an austrian holocaust survivor here, with a germanic last name... unblock Mar 2016 #16

This ^^^ chwaliszewski Mar 2016 #36

Yes Dem2 Mar 2016 #126

Yep. John Oliver pointed out that Drumpf told Jon Stewart... backscatter712 Mar 2016 #146

I see your point. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #154

I wonder what dubya calls him, yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2016 #22

Something with "turd" in it... 3catwoman3 Mar 2016 #41

More likely something with "fart" given what "trumpet" means in some places n/t csziggy Mar 2016 #70

Hair DrumpFührer / TheRump. He's fascist poseur / the elephant's ass. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2016 #25

I know what you mean. But it's going to be awfully hard to sustain pnwmom Mar 2016 #26

Hard but maybe important. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #155

People seem to think immaturity is a way to fight racism. nt revbones Mar 2016 #28

He ripped Jon Stewart for changing his name. mac56 Mar 2016 #29

That was typical Trumpian hypocrisy. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #157

Your mileage may vary. mac56 Mar 2016 #158

Well, it's the mileage. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #180

DRUMPF, DRUMPF, DRUMPF, DRUMPF, DRUMPF, DRUMPF, DRUMPF, DRUMPF, RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #30

I kinda like DR.UMPF precisely because it doesn't sound nice. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #74

Thanks, glad I'm not alone on this one. booksenkatz Mar 2016 #33

Thank you. (kinda late, but I've been busy and not able to keep up with this thread) freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #159

It's Drumpf eilen Mar 2016 #34

I call him Drumpf because he reminds me of Adolf Hitler. I'm 3/4 German. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #35

Gilbert Gottfried said... chwaliszewski Mar 2016 #37

Well said! freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #135

"This has nothing to do with the German people of today." BeanMusical Mar 2016 #64

No, it doesn't have to do with the German people of today. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #160

Call him Drumpf-kauff.... reACTIONary Mar 2016 #39

Yes, this is the "progressive" equivalent of "Barry Hussein Obama" Zambero Mar 2016 #40

Agree completely. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #162

He has followers at his rallies doing the Nazi Salute TDale313 Mar 2016 #42

That Nazi salute business is scary. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #163

He asked them to raise their right hands (to swear to vote I believe) TDale313 Mar 2016 #188

Probably he did know. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #191

He is called this everywhere on the internets not just DU so good luck trying to stop it! nt m-lekktor Mar 2016 #43

doesnt matter where he or ancestors are from, he is a freakin nazi plain and simple litlbilly Mar 2016 #44

If the shoe fits, wear it- appalachiablue Mar 2016 #84

Okay, from now on, I'll refer to him as . . . OldRedneck Mar 2016 #45

Ok, alternate "grofaz usa" w0nderer Mar 2016 #46

I believe the reason Drumph caught fire Capt. Obvious Mar 2016 #47

Yip it's about the immigrant-vs-immigrant thing not the Germanic thing. so *DRUMPF* forever!1 UTUSN Mar 2016 #48

Thankfully the OP is here to protect the German race! Rex Mar 2016 #53

He is racist and despicable in many other ways. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #165

"DRUMPF" helps *me* by communicating my little stand & what he represents to me. UTUSN Mar 2016 #187

I appreciate your reply. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #190

But...but.. Scurrilous Mar 2016 #49

I got onto drumpf Hayduke Bomgarte Mar 2016 #50

Opinion from a German immigrant who has not forgotten her mother tongue. Mira Mar 2016 #51

Yes, he does do that all by himself. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #168

how are the Daesh doing PatrynXX Mar 2016 #54

I prefer The Dumpster. mwooldri Mar 2016 #56

NO moonbeam23 Mar 2016 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Mar 2016 #59

So sorry Freedom MMTampa Mar 2016 #60

I have a browser addon that changes his name to "some rich asshole" blogslut Mar 2016 #61

He's also known as Fuckface Von Clownstick, and he's a person who has trash talked others for Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #62

I'm with John Oliver on this one. Crunchy Frog Mar 2016 #65

I'm half-German myself, and I'm calling the fucker Drumpf. nt backscatter712 Mar 2016 #68

Interesting article. BeanMusical Mar 2016 #69

I agree. AnnieBW Mar 2016 #72

Thanks, Annie. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #170

Drumpf, Drumpf, Drumpf, Drumpf! L. Coyote Mar 2016 #73

I heard it's German. I don't know for sure. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #171

It is not. L. Coyote Mar 2016 #182

NO ! Submariner Mar 2016 #75

When I see people name calling I assume they are an idiot. DesMoinesDem Mar 2016 #76

That's good! freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #172

I call him a loudmouthed POS. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #77

Nah. liberalfromaustin21 Mar 2016 #78

Im all for starting up "Stubby fingered vulgarian." nt MrScorpio Mar 2016 #79

That isn't why I call him "Drumpf" at all! MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #80

The OP knows this, but hey you cannot expect the Fake Outrage train to slow down Rex Mar 2016 #82

Please name a fact that you are responding to. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #173

Your OP is garbage, but how clever you were in your Trump humping on DU. Rex Mar 2016 #183

You said facts had been pointed out. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #185

I had not thought of it that way. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #174

And now that you know, will you delete your OP? Of course not, you like the fake outrage. Rex Mar 2016 #184

You've given me your opinion so I'm supposed to delete my OP? freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #186

1- Yes, it's an anti-immigrant joke, 2- Yes, it's bigoted, 3- No, people won't stop Bucky Mar 2016 #81

Thanks, Bucky. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #175

No. Deadshot Mar 2016 #83

it's attached to a joke... lame54 Mar 2016 #85

Exactly! Context is everything. Turborama Mar 2016 #87

This is beautiful and it should be an OP Kalidurga Mar 2016 #105

It was posted in the V&M group a few times. Turborama Mar 2016 #108

I did see the video. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #177

any time Trump's hypocrisy is called out it's a good thing lame54 Mar 2016 #181

I for one love my Drumpfinator... Turborama Mar 2016 #88

I believe the word you're looking for is "xenophobic." Iggo Mar 2016 #89

It's actually none of those. It's simply a campaign to dilute his brand name. Turborama Mar 2016 #93

I know where it comes from. Iggo Mar 2016 #104

I can see your point of view......but I disagree.....I see Drumpf as....living proof of..... DrewFlorida Mar 2016 #91

Yes, please. fullautohotdog Mar 2016 #94

Thanks, fullautohotdog freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #179

He gave Jon Stewart shit about his name snort Mar 2016 #95

No. He's an asshole, and DRUMPF sounds like a name that an asshole would want to change to MADem Mar 2016 #96

Okay, after much thought I will out of respect for his 'race' call him Donald Dump from now on. Rex Mar 2016 #97

It's not about race or the Holocaust IronLionZion Mar 2016 #98

Drumpf is a phony and his name is just as phony as he is Gothmog Mar 2016 #99

You need to see the John Oliver clip... americannightmare Mar 2016 #100

yes watch Olivers clip. brilliant MFM008 Mar 2016 #102

good point ffjh - didn't use it in the past and now I surely won't be using it. burfman Mar 2016 #106

Kick'd n rec'd, because I value your viewpoint... Kalidurga Mar 2016 #107

THANK you! jmowreader Mar 2016 #109

I agree I think we should call him Donny Jingles. joshcryer Mar 2016 #110

I've never understood DU's obsession with odd names for those we don't like. cwydro Mar 2016 #112

I never could figure out why Laura Bush was "Pickles". (n/t) Jim Lane Mar 2016 #114

Lol. cwydro Mar 2016 #115

Well, "Tweety" seems somewhat logical. Jim Lane Mar 2016 #118

See post #139 n/t UTUSN Mar 2016 #140

Here're are both the etymology and the context of "Tweety". U've been here forever, thought you knew UTUSN Mar 2016 #139

I guess its great yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #119

I just call him tRump Wolf Frankula Mar 2016 #120

"I think DU is better than to think that way." sibelian Mar 2016 #122

And, who wants to sound like this guy looks? pintobean Mar 2016 #123

I think he looks cute. Turborama Mar 2016 #136

I got an idea... let's just call him ASSHOLE BigBearJohn Mar 2016 #128

Not about German ancestry, IMO, I thought it Scottish, in fact. whathehell Mar 2016 #129

This diary clearly illustrates EdwardBernays Mar 2016 #130

In UK English, one meaning of 'trump' is 'fart' so his current name does just fine for him! LeftishBrit Mar 2016 #131

I agree with you. Doing that gives them licence to deadname people. KitSileya Mar 2016 #132

Many problems with that. First, Trump's name is his brand, second Don attacks other people who have Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #134

Another one standing with John Oliver Maeve Mar 2016 #133

Make Donald Drumpf again! Coventina Mar 2016 #138

What a great thread dumbcat Mar 2016 #141

I can agree awoke_in_2003 Mar 2016 #150

I prefer Trump (British slang for fart), which fits him spiritually and physically. nt Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #151

dRumpf, dRumpf dRumpf dRumpf dRumpf dRumpf dRumpf we can do it Mar 2016 #156

Can I still call his supporters Trumpkopfs? struggle4progress Mar 2016 #164

The implication isn't that he's German; it's that he comes from immigrants MuttLikeMe Mar 2016 #166

I have the google chrome extension, which made this post extra funny. basselope Mar 2016 #167

Completely agree with you Not doing so would be mocking anyone with that name karynnj Mar 2016 #176

No the point was that he whined and bitched about Jon Stewart's kdmorris Mar 2016 #178

NO n/t shanti Mar 2016 #189