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markpkessinger

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104. I can find no evidence that BaptistNews.org has taken a position on open carry...

Tue Mar 22, 2016, 12:26 AM

Mar 2016

... I see that they are reporting on the issue in a Baptist context, and there are certainly Baptist congregations that do advocate open carry. Given Baptist beliefs about the freedom of individual baptist churches to determine for themselves the policies they will embrace with regard to matters such as this, it is to be expected that Baptists will hold a range of views on this topic. And one would expect that a service reporting news of interest to and for Baptists would cover the range of opinions Baptists hold on the subject.

Nor do I find any evidence that the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship -- a group of moderate Baptists -- has taken a position on the issue.

But, even if either BaptistNews.org or the CBF taken a position, does the fact that they may hold an opinion that you -- and I suspect most of us -- strongly disagree with automatically render them a bad source of other information? Are you suggesting they are akin to a site like WorldNetDaily, or other similar sites, that have a notorious track record of publishing wildly false and distorted news stories?

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Hey, hey, ho, ho. DINO Debbie's got to go! Scuba Mar 2016 #4

Hey, ho yes! 840high Mar 2016 #75

This the same grouip supporting open carry in Churchs.... geeez Cryptoad Mar 2016 #5

So by attacking the group, you are supporting Schultz's position on payday loans? BillZBubb Mar 2016 #6

I didn't say that abt supporting anybody Cryptoad Mar 2016 #10

You must have a weird concept of logic then. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #13

Logic? Cryptoad Mar 2016 #17

Clearly you don't have a good grasp of basic logic. Either that or you do support payday loans. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #19

u must be having a hard time understanding Cryptoad Mar 2016 #22

Geez, give it a rest. You've lost. Quit embarrassing yourself. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #25

u seem to be the one having a problem giving a rest Cryptoad Mar 2016 #28

There are plenty of other sources on this, but you are too lazy or disinterested to investigate. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #33

once again Cryptoad Mar 2016 #36

Bringing the veracity of the group confronting DWS is simply veiled opinion in itself. Plucketeer Mar 2016 #47

this is really not that hard Cryptoad Mar 2016 #53

how about these folks? DonCoquixote Mar 2016 #59

Geez,,,, Cryptoad Mar 2016 #60

the point is DonCoquixote Mar 2016 #64

I didn't say anything about Debbie, ,,,,,,, Cryptoad Mar 2016 #65

That's the problem. noamnety Mar 2016 #80

It seems to be challenging for you. Plucketeer Mar 2016 #81

no not at all challenging Cryptoad Mar 2016 #82

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sig line seems to fit right in with Cryptoad Mar 2016 #88

Of course Plucketeer Mar 2016 #90

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You're not fooling anyone... Human101948 Mar 2016 #111

The poster you're talking to is lying about one of two things: beerandjesus Mar 2016 #120

The source does not support open carry in churches. beerandjesus Mar 2016 #119

I read more critically than some........ Cryptoad Mar 2016 #122

If "not reading at all" equals "reading more critically then some" beerandjesus Mar 2016 #123

Speaking of, here's an excerpt from an opinion piece from those right-wing extremists: beerandjesus Mar 2016 #124

I find that party loyalists rarely actually *support* anything, as such. Marr Mar 2016 #30

That appears to be the case here. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #31

You hit the nail on the head. Brother_Love Mar 2016 #56

Yup. There's also the entire DU post history here closeupready Mar 2016 #57

The source is literally The Bible astrophuss42 Mar 2016 #27

No the source in question is Cryptoad Mar 2016 #32

Clearly, you have no concept of a Payday Loan. Mosgt don't need a website libdem4life Mar 2016 #54

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(glad you are here) annabanana Mar 2016 #23

Yes, logic. Marr Mar 2016 #26

NO I was only stating Cryptoad Mar 2016 #34

You weren't questioning some esoteric piece of data. Marr Mar 2016 #45

I dismissed nothing, Cryptoad Mar 2016 #89

LOL Act_of_Reparation Mar 2016 #121

Signatories include that noted right-winger, William Barber. beerandjesus Mar 2016 #35

Have u read their web site? Cryptoad Mar 2016 #38

I've been browsing it for the past half hour... beerandjesus Mar 2016 #41

Yes I read the website Cryptoad Mar 2016 #44

OK then! Plucketeer Mar 2016 #48

I never said,,, Cryptoad Mar 2016 #51

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I do know better than to Cryptoad Mar 2016 #63

That isn't the issue discussed in the OP. But here is another case where you won't commit to rhett o rick Mar 2016 #69

I wasn't discussing anyting Cryptoad Mar 2016 #70

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Please - put an end to it ciaobaby Mar 2016 #84

Welll since u ask nice Cryptoad Mar 2016 #85

Just so there's no ambiguity here, BNG does not support guns in churches, as the other poster claims beerandjesus Mar 2016 #125

They've decided that the ends justify their means. They are following the behavior of the wealthy rhett o rick Mar 2016 #127

Hypocritical for the 'Church A Day' candidate who is endorsed by the 'Loan A Day' Chairwoman..... Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #112

So you support the loan sharks stealing from the poor? rhetorical. It's all about exploitation rhett o rick Mar 2016 #61

aND YOUR POINT? 840high Mar 2016 #76

my point is my opinion that Cryptoad Mar 2016 #93

I can find no evidence that BaptistNews.org has taken a position on open carry... markpkessinger Mar 2016 #104

I'm actually pretty impressed with how progressive that site is... beerandjesus Mar 2016 #126

Nice Ad Hominem. Odin2005 Mar 2016 #92

Just explaining my opinion Cryptoad Mar 2016 #94

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+10000 hereforthevoting Mar 2016 #11

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This may be the black part of the Baptist Church. If that is jwirr Mar 2016 #40

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Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #16

The BIBLE says this? Is THAT why it is wrong. pangaia Mar 2016 #18

Well, this is a church source. annabanana Mar 2016 #21

it's actually condemned in a few places... my Fav is Jesus and the Temple MidwestTech Mar 2016 #39

as well they SHOULD be. . . . n/t annabanana Mar 2016 #20

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So much truth in this. Dr. Strange Mar 2016 #74

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Objective is subjective n2doc Mar 2016 #118

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Dirty.. unethical... Abuse of a trusted position... TipTok Mar 2016 #117

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Yes awoke_in_2003 Mar 2016 #128

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