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76. Yes - Tallahassee has one of those "tails"

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Sun Mar 27, 2016, 12:30 PM

Mar 2016

So heavily Democratic Tallahassee shares representatives with the very read area extending all the way across North Florida to Jacksonville AND with the deeply read Panhandle extending to Panama City. This effectively splits and weakens the strong Democratic presence in Leon County so we will have less chance of electing Democratic representatives. (http://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2015/12/03/florida-supreme-court-picks-congressional-district-map)

And that is AFTER the lines were drawn to meet the judge's criteria in settling the case with the League of Women Voters vs the state legislature!

This article - https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/07/16/florida-says-it-will-change-its-congressional-districts-a-judge-said-violate-state-law-but-after-the-election/ - has the map as it was in 2012. While Leon County gets dumped in with red areas, it was not split up.

With the new map I am not even sure which district I am in - my house is very close to one of the lines and I have not seen a detailed enough version to locate where I am!

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