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cloudythescribbler

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77. If only it were so -- due time for the GOP was more than 20 years ago
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 12:49 PM
Mar 2016

It seems to me that an already lousy Reaganite party (the repukes) triggered their entitlement to negative Karma when they systematically blocked (overly, in my view) moderate Bill Clinton's every little mild reform with a solid wall of filibusters. This unprecedented (at that time) systematic filibuster made a mockery of the Constitutional scheme and the Democrats then as since only play nerfball with those to their right. Bringing a nerfball to a gunfight resulted not in the cataclysmic losses in 94 that they had richly earned, but control of both Houses of Congress for the first time in 40 years. This was not out of popular enthusiasm for the tactic as (a) disgust by Democrats with the nothing happening and failure to respond a la Truman and (b) the radical shift rightward in the electorate that typically takes place in non-presidential year Congressional elections.

There was also the government shutdowns, the ridiculous investigations, the impeachment, and so on and so forth -- with the Democrats responding weakly as always. David Brock, who many fellow Bernie supporters are castigating as he now runs interference for Hillary in the primary campaign, quite courageously came out in "Blinded By The Right" and showed how things were from the inside, including the insane almost directionless -- presaging Trumpism -- vein-popping anger at Clinton. There is much said that Obama is being uniquely disrespected because of his race, which surely is not without some truth, but really the idiocy of the GOP during the last 7+ years is only a continuation and modest amplification of what they did and completely got away with in the 90s (not to overlook stealing the 2000 presidential election).

Under Obama the story is all-too-familiar, now with the senate refusing even to hold hearings for an ultra-moderate nominee and the rise of Donald Trump. The Karma is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY overdue, and even if Trump gets buried in a landslide, weakened further by some sort of breakaway rightwing "conservative" candidacy, the GOP will still hold a 'majority' (gerrymandority) in the House. So much for Karma.

The planet will be down the tubes, with climate change, already past the tipping point as Jim Hansen notes, passing the point of no return before the GOP get the comeuppance they have so richly deserved for so long.

Meanwhile authentic progressives in the US put up with varying degrees of negative treatment, up to and including assassination, maiming, torture, attainder and much more (as well as lesser crap), and that doesn't seem likely to end anytime soon either.

Karma? I think not!

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They do not have a duty to vote on Garland jberryhill Mar 2016 #1
Biden seemed to suggest they do. GusFring Mar 2016 #3
Tough jberryhill Mar 2016 #6
Then they need to vote that way Warpy Mar 2016 #8
In my book, that's called treason. desmiller Mar 2016 #10
Your book is wrong. Doctor Who Mar 2016 #14
Using powers to undermine and disrespect the POTUS is treason to me. desmiller Mar 2016 #15
Disrespecting the POTUS is treason? Doctor Who Mar 2016 #46
You are entitled to your opinion, but the law is what matters. Yo_Mama Mar 2016 #19
No law can stop Karma. Those GOP pricks will get their's in due time. desmiller Mar 2016 #22
Elections. That they fear. n/t Yo_Mama Mar 2016 #23
Yes. desmiller Mar 2016 #24
If only it were so -- due time for the GOP was more than 20 years ago cloudythescribbler Mar 2016 #77
The Constitution prescribes no mechanism for "advice and consent" jberryhill Mar 2016 #13
They are neither advising nor consenting. They are fraudulently collecting paychecks lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #28
In the Court of Imagination, anything is possible jberryhill Mar 2016 #30
Thank you, nice to be loved lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #32
Well, all those lawyers filing lawsuits on this must have another view of it jberryhill Mar 2016 #35
"nor consenting" pintobean Mar 2016 #31
NEWSFLASH: The Constitution requires that there be a Supreme Court. tabasco Mar 2016 #33
NEWSFLASH: There is one jberryhill Mar 2016 #34
NEWSFLASH: There would not be one but for senate action that is REQUIRED under the constitution tabasco Mar 2016 #37
"in your la-la land contrarian world" jberryhill Mar 2016 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author X_Digger Mar 2016 #50
Did someone misplace the SCOTUS? Should we have their pictures printed on milk cartons? X_Digger Mar 2016 #51
There actually was a two year period when there was no Supreme Court onenote Mar 2016 #74
So do you think that the Senate is obligated to approve anyone the President nominate? onenote Mar 2016 #81
Back when a Democratic Senate was refusing to vote on Bush appointees, Yo_Mama Mar 2016 #18
No beachbumbob Mar 2016 #2
No. They are not harming Obama's Executive powers. They are just now giving that up or down vote Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #4
No SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #5
this is a political problem, not a legal or constitutional one. unblock Mar 2016 #7
Writ of Mandamus no_hypocrisy Mar 2016 #9
Are you suggesting that a writ of mandamus would be a possibility? WillowTree Mar 2016 #16
Who was the plaintiff for Marbury v. Madison? no_hypocrisy Mar 2016 #17
So his petition can be denied as was Marbury's? WillowTree Mar 2016 #21
I searched online and could find petitions but very few decisions. no_hypocrisy Mar 2016 #25
The senate had confirmed his nomination though. NYC Liberal Mar 2016 #49
That doesn't apply to a legislative body jberryhill Mar 2016 #36
You assume the courts would find for the President in this matter. PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #11
The court is now deadlocked; the GOP can't expect relief there lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #29
It's up to us C_U_L8R Mar 2016 #12
Straightforwardly - he'd be stupid to do so, and he is not stupid. Yo_Mama Mar 2016 #20
In this case, the President doesn't need to sue Congress. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #26
Advice and consent is not a privilege SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2016 #48
What specifically in the Constitutiion supports your claim that advice and consent Trust Buster Mar 2016 #57
The text of the Constitution itself SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2016 #86
The Democrats can do the same using that logic. Then the Court will begin to unravel. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #87
Sure the Democrats can do the same thing SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2016 #88
I think you need a refresher in civics. The president only nominates. X_Digger Mar 2016 #53
Where can you support your claim in the Constitution ? Trust Buster Mar 2016 #56
Hell, the constitution doesn't even define the number of justices. X_Digger Mar 2016 #58
Where in the Constitutiion does it claim that consent is mandatory ? Trust Buster Mar 2016 #60
Are you shitting me? You don't even know the language? Back to Civics 101 with you. X_Digger Mar 2016 #61
I know that but the Senate has abstained from advice and consent. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #62
The senate has withheld it's consent, you say? So it does not consent? X_Digger Mar 2016 #63
I disagree. They never even started the advise and consent process. They suspended the Trust Buster Mar 2016 #64
Okay, I *do* need to send you a dictionary. X_Digger Mar 2016 #65
So the Democrats decide that they will do the same to future Republican presidents. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #66
Do you consent? *silence*.. that's lack of consent. Fucking duh. X_Digger Mar 2016 #67
You avoided my question. If the Democrats do the same, the Supreme Court is finished. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #68
You mean like they did in 2002? Gee, we still actually have a SCOTUS, don't we? X_Digger Mar 2016 #69
Not silly at all. If Republicans refuse to hold hearings for a Democrat's nominee, then Trust Buster Mar 2016 #70
Argumentum ad absurdum. X_Digger Mar 2016 #71
You're the absurd one. You defend the Republicans right to not hold hearings but call the Democrats Trust Buster Mar 2016 #72
See post 73. onenote Mar 2016 #80
Stop writing their paychecks lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #27
27th Amendment jberryhill Mar 2016 #39
Not applicable lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #40
"they are collecting pay for work not performed" jberryhill Mar 2016 #41
It is their job to "advise." lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #42
I apologize, Congressman Berryhill lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #43
lol jberryhill Mar 2016 #44
No. The only option is for the voters to oust the senators. Not a lot will madinmaryland Mar 2016 #45
I love reading the comments from Seeking Serenity Mar 2016 #47
I swear, we need to get a $50 tax credit for a voluntary civic class. X_Digger Mar 2016 #54
I would be interested in doing this. Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #52
The constitution says the President (shall) nominate a candidate doc03 Mar 2016 #55
There is no requirement for a hearing onenote Mar 2016 #75
What is the point in saying the president shall appoint? What if the committee doc03 Mar 2016 #78
See post 73. onenote Mar 2016 #79
I'm sure if it is possible, President Obama would have thought of it. nt GreenEyedLefty Mar 2016 #59
No. Constitutional expectations are not the same as constitutional requirements onenote Mar 2016 #73
They're refusing to advise or even consider the nominee. benpollard Mar 2016 #76
He's made his appointment. onenote Mar 2016 #82
I thought we had put this subject to bed weeks ago: but let's review onenote Mar 2016 #83
So what if another one of the right wingers dies and the court has 4 liberals and doc03 Mar 2016 #84
Yes. The President can refuse to nominate anyone onenote Mar 2016 #85
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