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BainsBane

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48. relative luxury, but not like that

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:56 AM

Mar 2016

The huge estates were expropriated and provided homes for many, many families. Yes, there wasn't true equality in that CP insiders had perks, but there wasn't the dramatic income inequality that characterizes capitalism.

I think your preferences are fine. I have no problem with them, but this entire controversy exposes the fallacy of Sanders' appropriating the language of revolution as a campaign slogan. His supporters clearly do not want revolution. Sarandon talks about revolution but obviously hasn't given a thought to what it actually means. I find the notion that someone as obscenely rich as her feels entitled to sit back and lecture the American public, all but a miniscule fraction of a percentage of which are infinitely less prosperous than she, about revolution is the height of hypocrisy. Clearly she has no intention of living up to what she preaches. She really ought to think more carefully about the implications of what she says.

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I'm ready for a revolution [View all] BainsBane Mar 2016 OP

Since Sarandon advocates raising her own taxes, your post is parody without a point virtualobserver Mar 2016 #1

What is it you think I don't "get"? BainsBane Mar 2016 #3

She is not arguing for Trump...She is arguing for Bernie..... virtualobserver Mar 2016 #7

That is not what she said BainsBane Mar 2016 #11

she didn't say that Trump would be better for the American people virtualobserver Mar 2016 #20

That was my take on it also. nt Mojorabbit Mar 2016 #35

Sarandon Did Not Say She Would Vote For Trump scottie55 Mar 2016 #56

.+1 840high Mar 2016 #82

Did She Mean Have To Hit Rick Bottom First? billhicks76 Mar 2016 #85

"She just said if Trump won the revolution would be immediate." The chaos lead to a "law-and-order" pampango Mar 2016 #142

Oh, she is in the #bernieorBust crowd. Not saying she riversedge Mar 2016 #178

You Mad? PCPrincess Mar 2016 #153

"I've taught college level courses on social revolution." jack_krass Mar 2016 #191

Now,now I would not go and challenge what people say they have done in real life nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #193

If that's really the case, there's tons of charities that she can support and get the same results, Amimnoch Mar 2016 #112

She has already done exactly what you suggest and more virtualobserver Mar 2016 #131

If it waits to elect a congress until after the nomination Amimnoch Mar 2016 #137

Since Sanders ran as a Liberty Union candidate multiple times as an adult KittyWampus Mar 2016 #148

All of the rich people can afford it....but some are too greedy, unlike Susan virtualobserver Mar 2016 #150

Fascinating about the Rockefellers Hekate Mar 2016 #251

Instead of just dropping one-liners, why not "revsplain" the revolution to us? George II Mar 2016 #149

I advocate raising my taxes as well...but folks here still HATE all 1%ers.... brooklynite Mar 2016 #229

nobody hates you....they just wish that you had chosen a different candidate.... virtualobserver Mar 2016 #230

I'm not talking about the election...there's been stereotyping of 1%ers here for years brooklynite Mar 2016 #231

Well, I think that it is unfair to label you as being that "secretly"..... virtualobserver Mar 2016 #241

I got a meta question for you (big picture) nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #242

Nobody says you do it in secret. Rex Mar 2016 #257

I expect her to issue an apology for her statement. rusty quoin Mar 2016 #2

Precisely. It's one thing to believe strongly in one's candidate for the Democratic nomination BainsBane Mar 2016 #4

I like your Bowie. rusty quoin Mar 2016 #8

Thanks! nt BainsBane Mar 2016 #14

There are examples of what can go wrong and it's the states which elected Republican Governors rusty quoin Mar 2016 #13

And yet another to lie about what someone said. n/t cui bono Mar 2016 #16

For what statement? Can you please quote it exactly? cui bono Mar 2016 #18

Watch the Goddam interview before posting bullshit statements like this. You people are litlbilly Mar 2016 #63

I listened to the interview the first time it aired TexasTowelie Mar 2016 #80

Revolutions of the type you describe do not lead to happy outcomes Albertoo Mar 2016 #5

That's not revolution BainsBane Mar 2016 #6

Well, I prefer the Scandinavian system to a socialist revolution, I guess Albertoo Mar 2016 #29

relative luxury, but not like that BainsBane Mar 2016 #48

a correction on facts, Sarandon aside Albertoo Mar 2016 #107

I don't think you're factoring in the entire population BainsBane Mar 2016 #163

Well, I studied that period of both countries in depth (Bachelor studies) Albertoo Mar 2016 #185

Something curious about that chart nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #189

Your graphs and mine concur Albertoo Mar 2016 #190

I could not post the gini one nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #192

I resized the pic for you. Inequality back to WW1 level, not 1929 Albertoo Mar 2016 #194

True, true nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #195

btw, a F/U on that Albertoo Mar 2016 #196

Look into FTAs and the pressures to keep wages low nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #197

But I disagree with that Albertoo Mar 2016 #198

It is the form they are taking nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #200

yes on cost of externalities, no on labor costs Albertoo Mar 2016 #202

The upgrades to domestic jobs have been nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #203

Graphs disagree with "The labor market has few middle class jobs these days." Albertoo Mar 2016 #205

Alas my local market does not nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #206

Don't worry, Trump will fix that Albertoo Mar 2016 #207

Not joking, this is now to the level of the Mexican cabinet nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #208

And 'The Economist' has ranked Trump 12 on a scale Albertoo Mar 2016 #210

Fun, isn't it? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #211

Houses like hers 1939 Mar 2016 #110

"She justified promoting Trump over Clinton because she said it would bring about a revolution in re scottie55 Mar 2016 #57

Her face said it all for her. When she said she didn't know if she could ever vote for HRC... Hekate Mar 2016 #73

I don't think they have JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #105

We know who will be at the bottom of the pile brer cat Mar 2016 #123

this, a violent revolution would not go our way Amishman Mar 2016 #228

K&R! DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #9

Susan Sarandon is clearly an uppity woman in need of shaming Prism Mar 2016 #10

No, I don't think she realized the the impact of her statement while saying it. rusty quoin Mar 2016 #23

I'm tired of seeing her words distorted. Prism Mar 2016 #28

You got me. I didn't watch the whole thing. rusty quoin Mar 2016 #37

You should watch after the revolution remarks Prism Mar 2016 #38

A Sentence Or Two scottie55 Mar 2016 #58

I don't believe people watched the full interview Prism Mar 2016 #60

Here is the exact quote BainsBane Mar 2016 #167

Why are you trimming the quote? Prism Mar 2016 #168

No one is "shaming" Sarandon for having an opinion. NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #27

Were you planning on discussing her whole opinion? Prism Mar 2016 #30

Right now, I'm not planning on discussing it at all. NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #34

So, this OP Prism Mar 2016 #36

But actually ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #39

Should probably check what that expressed opinion is then Prism Mar 2016 #42

I am not commenting on the OP at this time. NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #44

You think the OP is "discussing an opinion"? Do tell. Prism Mar 2016 #46

One more time, shall we? NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #49

You oughtn't condescend when avoiding the topic Prism Mar 2016 #52

You seem to keep avoiding the topic ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #59

Well, now it's a missing post. Nicely done. Prism Mar 2016 #66

OMG!!! NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #70

*eyes glaze over* Prism Mar 2016 #72

Oh, THIS is really funny. NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #75

Your link vanished Prism Mar 2016 #79

Just vanished? NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #81

I did link Prism Mar 2016 #83

"that one got nuked somehow." NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #86

Can you explain Prism Mar 2016 #87

The entire LGBT community? NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #89

Parlor advocate Prism Mar 2016 #91

Still waiting on those links. n/t NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #92

Oh balls, I found it Prism Mar 2016 #95

You. Have. GOT. To. Be. Kidding. NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #101

I kind of like this link Prism Mar 2016 #166

You are really stretching here, aren't you? NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #169

Your sentiment is well known Prism Mar 2016 #170

Ya know, you're just making shit up now. NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #171

Just hush Prism Mar 2016 #174

Thus far, you have claimed to be speaking ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #179

I remember the exchange well. Puglover Mar 2016 #141

Oh, wait - wut? NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #93

And here you are, okasha Mar 2016 #199

Yep. GreenPartyVoter Mar 2016 #109

And by a feminist no less nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #172

If Trump is elected, there will be a revolution. OnyxCollie Mar 2016 #12

Can you provide the exact quote where she said that? cui bono Mar 2016 #15

Rich people are "innately bad according to my post" BainsBane Mar 2016 #43

Your highlighted quote doesn't match what you put in your OP. highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #50

... mcar Mar 2016 #144

k/r Dawson Leery Mar 2016 #17

Love you Bains! sheshe2 Mar 2016 #19

And She Would Wholehartedly Agree scottie55 Mar 2016 #61

You think so? BainsBane Mar 2016 #215

this OP is absolute bullshit. this meme is rediculous if any of you actually listened to litlbilly Mar 2016 #21

And this is why I cannot stand many of the Hillary bots here. litlbilly Mar 2016 #22

Agree Bodych Mar 2016 #32

If Trump won, there would be a revolution AGAINST him tblue Mar 2016 #65

Sarandon pushed that meme in 2000. That Bush and Gore were the same, and Bush in the WH lunamagica Mar 2016 #102

Does Anyone Care billhicks76 Mar 2016 #88

The servants must be hiding! Califonz Mar 2016 #24

Sarandon's so rich! not like Clinton! MisterP Mar 2016 #25

Huh? shenmue Mar 2016 #40

my apartment MFM008 Mar 2016 #26

The guillotines will inevitably take some innocents fbc Mar 2016 #31

What a weird post NastyRiffraff Mar 2016 #157

K&R Jamaal510 Mar 2016 #33

Sarandon's not worried about where her next meal is coming from. oasis Mar 2016 #41

Exactly. BainsBane Mar 2016 #45

'Let them eat cake.' nt onehandle Mar 2016 #47

Haven't I seen you post about disparaging women in any way as being Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #51

And while we argue over what Sarandon said..... seekthetruth Mar 2016 #53

I agree that celebrity endorsements are neither here nor there BainsBane Mar 2016 #69

Giving a shit about the environment. Duppers Mar 2016 #74

did Shee know after a home burning revolution begins, no one can X-it out? Jeffersons Ghost Mar 2016 #54

Hillary followers are using right-wing tactics revbones Mar 2016 #55

the truth is, they are not true Dems, they are conservadems, big difference litlbilly Mar 2016 #64

Makes sense. nt revbones Mar 2016 #67

Because "true Dems" support Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton? BainsBane Mar 2016 #94

And Bernie supporters like you BainsBane Mar 2016 #84

... all american girl Mar 2016 #96

BRAVO!!! lunamagica Mar 2016 #103

This one paragraph NAILS it obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #140

And when did I "promote" Donald Trump revbones Mar 2016 #147

Have you ever contributed anything positive in the short time you have been here? rbrnmw Mar 2016 #221

I haven't seen anything positive you've contributed. revbones Mar 2016 #224

Go For It Susan scottie55 Mar 2016 #62

Yea Susan, keep up that Trump humping. leftofcool Mar 2016 #175

This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Mar 2016 #68

Yes. Duppers Mar 2016 #71

Hasn't she already moved on to Trump? BainsBane Mar 2016 #78

You know that is not true, but you say it anyway. You have no quote so you type characterizations Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #124

That's a LIE. polly7 Mar 2016 #134

I don't think a single one of BS supporters understands what the words "immediate revolution" mean. Hekate Mar 2016 #76

LOL!!! I KNEW she would be slimed. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #77

All this anger isn't good for your soul, Bain. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #90

What amused me the most was when Bain Capital threw a high dollar contribution soiree for Clinton Fumesucker Mar 2016 #216

True. There are none so blind as them what will not see, or something like that. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #217

Actually I think they do see, they couldn't so adroitly miss the point so often otherwise Fumesucker Mar 2016 #219

Yeah, it's like getting a tattoo. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #220

She didn't support Trump. davidthegnome Mar 2016 #97

Here's the thing BainsBane Mar 2016 #104

You make some good points. davidthegnome Mar 2016 #108

Your situation is heartbreaking BainsBane Mar 2016 #160

Gawd.. she makes sick. And, I'm not the only one.. thank you for this, BB. Cha Mar 2016 #98

I hate a top 0.1% catfight. mhatrw Mar 2016 #99

Excellet idea! Maybe we should send a copy of Dr. Zhivago to Sarandon, to show her how the lunamagica Mar 2016 #100

Let's have a real revolution--support the candidate putting reproductive rights up for grabs eridani Mar 2016 #106

Sarandon is also a Nader supporter Gothmog Mar 2016 #111

She earned every cent of 'her privilege'. polly7 Mar 2016 #120

Meanwhile, at Chelsea's humble little digs. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #113

Well played malaise Mar 2016 #115

Morning Malaise hobbit709 Mar 2016 #119

Morning Hobbit709 malaise Mar 2016 #121

10.5 Million Dollar digs. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #128

Not my style, but I love the kitchen, wow! DanTex Mar 2016 #114

How fucking pathetic. polly7 Mar 2016 #116

If she were LiberalElite Mar 2016 #117

Oh, they'd be wanting her appointed to her cabinet! polly7 Mar 2016 #118

You are shaming a woman for having an opinion and $ while your own candidate is Ultra Rich and said: Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #122

Our friend Prism Puglover Mar 2016 #159

We sure do reward entertainers under capitalism. treestar Mar 2016 #125

Should they work for free? Have you watched any of her work? polly7 Mar 2016 #129

where did I say she should work for free? treestar Mar 2016 #155

I am the entertainer and I know just where I stand Fumesucker Mar 2016 #218

well OK the top ones then treestar Mar 2016 #255

LOL noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #126

Anyone who wants me to suffer more to revolt isn't my ally. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #127

She laughed when he was trying to push her into saying she'd vote for Trump. polly7 Mar 2016 #130

No, she isn't right. It's a fucking stupid opinion, not based on anything historical. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #132

No, she wasn't 'gleeful' at the prospect. She fucking laughed at trying to be corralled polly7 Mar 2016 #133

*bawwwwwk* Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #135

Oh, my ...... polly7 Mar 2016 #136

Is there a point so low that even Hillary supporters won't go? B Calm Mar 2016 #138

Low? BainsBane Mar 2016 #162

Low? Because we don't support Trump and Susan? leftofcool Mar 2016 #176

Preach it, sister obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #139

Well done, BB. Paladin Mar 2016 #143

You see why some 1%er hypocrites like Sarandon workinclasszero Mar 2016 #145

Of course Sarandon has no idea how a revolution would affect the poor. Laser102 Mar 2016 #146

Sarandon has always been a misguided fool cosmicone Mar 2016 #151

The thing about Revolutions is that you don't know what is going to happen on the other side liberal N proud Mar 2016 #152

The Rationalizations Continue PCPrincess Mar 2016 #154

He has appointed Sarandon a surrogate for his campaign BainsBane Mar 2016 #161

Is their hatred for Susan because she's a woman supporting Bernie? B Calm Mar 2016 #156

Yup, the same reason they hate some PoC, who they would prefer if they were good nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #173

What? BainsBane Mar 2016 #180

Should I remind you what some of the HRC fans have been saying about nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #184

FYI a lot of us have been upset with Cornel well before this election cycle rbrnmw Mar 2016 #222

You are annoyed with people who you would prefer to nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #233

I am not annoyed at all I was just letting you know that Cornel has been rbrnmw Mar 2016 #234

I think it is best as a PoC I do not try to silence nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #236

Cornel is welcome to say what he wants I just don't have to agree with it rbrnmw Mar 2016 #237

Well in that we agree nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #239

like Sanders supporters who dismissed southern AA? rbrnmw Mar 2016 #223

Exactly. zappaman Mar 2016 #226

Try to defend what has been going on M'kay nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #232

I don't defend racism no matter where it comes from rbrnmw Mar 2016 #238

Well kids are tired of being erased nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #240

I agree diversity isn't just black and white rbrnmw Mar 2016 #243

Jury results MelissaB Mar 2016 #181

Well I see some in the jury nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #188

She isn't supporting Bernie, she is supporting Trump leftofcool Mar 2016 #177

Conservatives simply do not understand nuance.. frylock Mar 2016 #244

Yes, that's it exactly BainsBane Mar 2016 #182

Actually we are annoyed with SITUATIONAL FEMINISM nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #183

I think that's a big factor, frankly. /nt Marr Mar 2016 #187

I'm ready for an economic revolution. That means a lot has to change in this country. Rex Mar 2016 #158

This OP belongs in GDPee Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #164

I agree! I'll just trash the thread B Calm Mar 2016 #165

Hillary's fans have earned their bad reputation. Marr Mar 2016 #186

The projection around here is phenomenal. BainsBane Mar 2016 #214

I was going to say the same about you, specifically. Marr Mar 2016 #225

What has been debunked? BainsBane Mar 2016 #250

book goes in GD-P snooper2 Mar 2016 #245

Stupid hack job lastone Mar 2016 #201

This could be one of the more dickish posts I've had the misfortune Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #204

i know this is political, but, redruddyred Mar 2016 #209

Hillary will make sure the rich stay rich and us peons will stay peons. Deadshot Mar 2016 #212

Not according to your fellow Bernie supporters here BainsBane Mar 2016 #213

See? That's the deceitful garbage I'm talking about. Marr Mar 2016 #227

And this garbage is creating a back lash nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #235

Let's be honest BainsBane Mar 2016 #248

"The rich who support Sanders..." Marr Mar 2016 #253

And you aren't even going to address the supposed debunking BainsBane Mar 2016 #254

I don't care about Hillary Clinton's new positions. Deadshot Mar 2016 #247

Again, more false claims BainsBane Mar 2016 #249

This post made my whole YEAR.....HATE hypocrites. nt clarice Mar 2016 #246

When the Committee breaks that palace up into apts for the deserving poor, I want that Library room. Hekate Mar 2016 #252

You say Rex Mar 2016 #256

I wonder how much she pays her staff. No way R B Garr Apr 2016 #258

Yep. It's successful actors who are keeping the poor down. killbotfactory Apr 2016 #259