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lagomorph777

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10. The depth and breadth of Monsanto propaganda is breathtaking

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:49 PM

Mar 2016

I find a shocking array of people spouting the identical meme. When you control 80% of the nation's food supply, you also control a giant pile of money to buy opinions.

No, selective breeding does not in any way resemble genetic modification in the Monsanto sense. GMO doesn't recombine whole chromosomes of the same species (as breeding does); usually it doesn't even combine nice whole genes. Introducing a gene that crosses species typically introduces a lot more than one gene - it's not a nice targeted process. It's bits of this and shreds of that, and you grow thousands of seeds to get one that isn't too crippled to survive. If the one trait you wanted happens to be in there, then "woo" you have a product. It may also contain defective genes that produce toxins, or allergen genes from the source species. And it will take decades of human experimentation, now being performed on us, to actually see the effects. Some are becoming visible now; others will require more deaths before we can correlate them.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but corn used for Popcorn is not GMO [View all] Demonaut Mar 2016 OP

Good luck. Peace. 7wo7rees Mar 2016 #1

Have a piece? yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #104

All popcorn is genetically modified. trotsky Mar 2016 #2

That would be selective breeding, not genetic modification. forest444 Mar 2016 #4

Selective breeding is genetic modification. jeff47 Mar 2016 #5

still not the same Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #8

Gene splicing happens all the time naturally via horizontal gene transfer NickB79 Mar 2016 #14

no Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #19

Here ya go: Horizontal gene transfer between various eukaryotes jeff47 Mar 2016 #23

Sure, jeff/trotsky/Monsanto lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #80

Nope! Modern gene splicing is not at all like a virus. jeff47 Mar 2016 #124

Humans may harbor more than 100 genes from other organisms HuckleB Mar 2016 #26

Also, the human genome is 5-8% virus bhikkhu Mar 2016 #66

Of course it happens all the time... arikara Mar 2016 #106

LOL SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #127

Funnily enough arikara Mar 2016 #131

Are you opposed to golden rice which has the potential to save eyesight and even lives? alarimer Mar 2016 #20

And this is another pull out the golden rice argument. zalinda Mar 2016 #24

Papaya, anyone? HuckleB Mar 2016 #87

You are right, I don't give a damn if it has been lab modified Jim Beard Apr 2016 #134

I would rather introduce more variety in their diet for much bigger benefits Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #28

Sure, just give them an EBT card and send them down to the local Piggly Wiggly Major Nikon Mar 2016 #42

And in the meantime, while you are promoting cultural changes and developing jobs for them uppityperson Mar 2016 #119

Oh, they have all the usual excuses to ward off doing good in the world. HuckleB Mar 2016 #29

There are many kinds of genetic modification. trotsky Mar 2016 #6

The depth and breadth of Monsanto propaganda is breathtaking lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #10

Nope, it's actual science. jeff47 Mar 2016 #31

That poster doesn't care. HuckleB Mar 2016 #34

I'm aware. But I'd like people reading the thread to see actual science jeff47 Mar 2016 #36

I get it, indeed. HuckleB Mar 2016 #38

If you think we don't understand science, you have underestimated your enemy (the American public).. lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #76

You're the poster who offered a Gish Gallop that included Seralini, Mercola, Vrain, Jeffrey Smith... HuckleB Mar 2016 #95

PS... HuckleB Apr 2016 #140

You are conflating "GMO"s and "Round-Up Ready" Thor_MN Mar 2016 #65

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #77

Good post...accurate....nt StopTheNeoCons Mar 2016 #94

That is a hybrid isn't it? We have from the beginning of jwirr Mar 2016 #9

"But that is not genetics" trotsky Mar 2016 #12

Well gee thank you for your nice answer. The is a difference jwirr Mar 2016 #39

Both deal with actually changing the genes Major Nikon Mar 2016 #45

So you think that hybridizing is just like GMO? You can ignore jwirr Mar 2016 #49

I would argue they aren't the same, Genetic Engineering is safer, because we have more control... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #54

Try to focus on what I actually wrote Major Nikon Mar 2016 #59

You're still not understanding that you're saying. trotsky Mar 2016 #75

How many usernames does the Monsanto shill have? lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #78

No, we are all individuals who know something about science. Thor_MN Mar 2016 #129

Selective breeding is genetics. It may not be gmo, but it is genetics. uppityperson Mar 2016 #120

Selective breeding is not GMO. Deadshot Mar 2016 #69

Yeah, actually, it is. trotsky Mar 2016 #74

OK, so twisting the language and pretending it's similar to breeding is a type of lying. lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #79

I am sorry you are not as informed on this topic as you'd like to think you are. trotsky Mar 2016 #81

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #82

Sssshhhhh.... don't disturb the ranters! whistler162 Mar 2016 #122

This. That's why we should avoid all popcorn scscholar Mar 2016 #128

Frankenkernels! trotsky Apr 2016 #135

Apparently all popping corn is non-GMO (for now) forest444 Mar 2016 #3

more natural news crap LOL snooper2 Mar 2016 #7

I can't believe you can so casually dismiss the merits of unintentional humor Major Nikon Mar 2016 #53

There is no GMO popcorn jmowreader Mar 2016 #11

Since they don't mention, I assume that it's NOT gluten-free? petronius Mar 2016 #13

They didn't say, but since it's Pure Himalayan Salt I assume it is jmowreader Mar 2016 #16

How about "Organic" and "Lactose Free"? Glassunion Mar 2016 #30

It's all a labeling gimmick. Glassunion Mar 2016 #18

LMAO! Aerows Mar 2016 #51

If you're a 'fan' of popcorn, you're probably not interested in your health, anyways. randome Mar 2016 #15

If you're a "fan" of Vani Hari, you're probably not interested in reality, anyways. jmowreader Mar 2016 #17

I'm a big fan of Vani Hari womanofthehills Mar 2016 #35

She's conned you and others into making her a millionaire. HuckleB Mar 2016 #37

Wow, that explains a lot, she's a crank who literally has profited off her own ignorance. n/t Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #43

Indeed, it does. HuckleB Mar 2016 #57

She makes Jenny McCarthy look like a rocket scientist Major Nikon Mar 2016 #61

�There is just no acceptable level of any chemical to ingest, ever� Major Nikon Mar 2016 #60

Food Babe is a con artist. HuckleB Mar 2016 #21

Food Babe looks fabulous from all that healthy eating womanofthehills Mar 2016 #32

Orthorexia nervosa: when righteous eating becomes an obsession HuckleB Mar 2016 #33

Vani Hari looks fabulous from all those great genes and expensive stylists jmowreader Mar 2016 #40

Actually, potassium is an essential nutrient, its required for healthy function... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #44

It takes a lot of work to get elemental potassium since it doesn't exist in nature that way jmowreader Mar 2016 #48

True, but it just illustrates that chemiphobes don't know chemistry... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #52

Yeah, The Bursting Into Flames In One's Mouth Would Be Bad! ProfessorGAC Mar 2016 #84

I figure if you chew with your mouth closed, you might lose your head/jaw in the process... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #100

Do you think it'd make it all the way to your mouth? jmowreader Mar 2016 #125

Nailed it. Genetics and $$$! n/t PasadenaTrudy Mar 2016 #50

Even then it's not absolutely true Major Nikon Mar 2016 #62

She's a hack. Deadshot Mar 2016 #70

That's why you never eat microwave popcorn. I havn't touched the stuff in years. I do eat popcorn Glassunion Mar 2016 #27

What's wrong with apples? n/t Aerows Mar 2016 #55

They are the friut of the devil Glassunion Mar 2016 #85

How are other tree fruit any different for those concerns? HuckleB Mar 2016 #86

Simple Glassunion Mar 2016 #92

All fruit = good. HuckleB Mar 2016 #93

Not apples... Glassunion Mar 2016 #98

What's the problem with non-Organic potatoes? HuckleB Mar 2016 #88

I have no issue with the poptato itself, but the commercial process. Glassunion Mar 2016 #97

Organic isn't going to save you from any of that. HuckleB Mar 2016 #112

How so? Glassunion Mar 2016 #116

What do you think the "organic" marketing label means? HuckleB Mar 2016 #117

It's the methods and allowed chemicals used in the growing. Glassunion Mar 2016 #118

Nice try. HuckleB Mar 2016 #121

I'm not sure what your issue is. Glassunion Mar 2016 #123

Potatoes are tubers that grow underground Major Nikon Mar 2016 #133

My apologies for the link to Food Babe. I was at work. randome Mar 2016 #41

unflavored corn..just kernals with no oils or emulsifiers, still bad for me? Demonaut Mar 2016 #46

It's a snack and I have philosophical objections to that from the start. randome Mar 2016 #58

What is wrong with "snacks"? Glassunion Mar 2016 #99

They're used too often as third or fourth meals. "It's just a snack." randome Mar 2016 #107

Snacks are not inherently evil. Glassunion Mar 2016 #108

I will happily concede that everyone is different. randome Mar 2016 #111

Yes. Fiber is very bad for you. killbotfactory Mar 2016 #64

It's important to not let an addiction to our taste buds rule our lives. randome Mar 2016 #72

Food Babe? Really? Deadshot Mar 2016 #68

Already apologized for that. randome Mar 2016 #73

You are correct. Orville is trying to cash in on baseless fear and ignorance. HuckleB Mar 2016 #22

This should be interesting...... Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2016 #25

this was meant to informational...I searched for popcorn that was non-gmo til I discovered this Demonaut Mar 2016 #47

Yeah, I tried making a funny. With the smiley and all. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2016 #63

Compare it to corn grown 2000 years ago. It's clearly GMO. So Far From Heaven Mar 2016 #56

GMO if you count selective breeding used the past 1000 years pediatricmedic Mar 2016 #67

Corn as you know it rjsquirrel Mar 2016 #71

"You call it corn... WE call it maize." cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #83

Apparently, popcorn is not lucrative roody Mar 2016 #89

Way to miss the reality here. HuckleB Mar 2016 #90

Every kernel of every ear of corn consumed in the world today is GMO. cleanhippie Mar 2016 #91

about 90% of sweet corn here is GMO. Popcorn is not. noamnety Mar 2016 #96

selective breeding is not the same as artificially adding foreign genes in a lab Demonaut Mar 2016 #109

Living things tend to share a huge percentage of genes. HuckleB Mar 2016 #115

It's not the same, but the result certainly is. cleanhippie Mar 2016 #126

thanks for making my point Demonaut Mar 2016 #130

Which went right over your head, apparently. cleanhippie Apr 2016 #136

ok, what did I miss? Demonaut Apr 2016 #137

so are you progressive or liberal, or do you consider the terms interchangeable? Demonaut Apr 2016 #141

Does Monsanto pay well for these type of threads and posts? just curious. nt revbones Mar 2016 #101

great way to add to the conversation, imply I'm a stooge for the Monsanto corp..read much? Demonaut Mar 2016 #102

No idea. But you're saying because someone has been here a while revbones Mar 2016 #103

how is my post a pro GMO thread? it points out that popcorn is NON GMO. Demonaut Mar 2016 #105

You're not allowed to point out disingenuous marketing, ... HuckleB Mar 2016 #113

I'm a stooge for the Monsanto corp SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #132

We are reptilians who are trying to take over the world... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #114

Does the "natural" foods industry pay well for those kinds of accusations? Act_of_Reparation Apr 2016 #138

How much do you get paid to advocate worse outcomes for the planet and its life forms? HuckleB Apr 2016 #139

Make sure you use non-GMO salt on it NobodyHere Mar 2016 #110