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76. Oh please, if they did safety tests on humans you would be complaining about that...

Reply to nationalize the fed (Reply #61)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:12 PM

Mar 2016

you know, like in this case:

http://www.gmwatch.org/news/archive/2014/15565-another-unethical-gmo-human-trial-planned

Note, their argument is extremely stupid because the differences in the banana is the fact that it produces beta-carotene, which we already know is safe to consume for humans. The tests are to determine Vitamin A intake, not for safety.

The fact is that there is no substantial differences between conventional crops and transgenic crops, as explained by this article:

https://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2016/01/13/no-long-term-gmo-studies-humans/

If there is a crop introduced that produces a novel protein or substance that does have a pharmacological effect on the human body, then I agree that the typical food testing is inadequate, but that isn't happening here.

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These vitamin-fortified bananas might get you thinking differently about GMOs [View all] Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 OP

O cruel, needless misunderstanding! Trajan Mar 2016 #1

Not sure of the point of your post, also, and this is important, it has nothing to do with Monsanto. Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #2

Because they're in cahoots with the lizard people and the illuminati to control the population Nailzberg Mar 2016 #5

They are literally brought up in every thread involving biotech, even when they had... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #7

Yeah, it bugs me immensily. And I'll just get called a Monsanto shill for saying it. Nailzberg Mar 2016 #12

Because fearful morons think that GMO=Round-Up Ready. Thor_MN Mar 2016 #9

Because you won't see any sort of labeling law that has anything remotely to do with pesticides Major Nikon Mar 2016 #23

There are 'organic' pesticides. To be certified as 'organic' So Far From Heaven Mar 2016 #65

Believe it or not, synthetic pesticides are allowed under organic certification rules Major Nikon Mar 2016 #78

Interesting.... So Far From Heaven Apr 2016 #87

It's OK for 100,000 children die each year, so long as "Monsatan" doesn't benefit Major Nikon Mar 2016 #13

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ sense Mar 2016 #52

Ugh! I feel for you. It must suck when everyone else is wrong all the time. nt revbones Mar 2016 #3

They are precisely like anti-vaxxers, climate change deniers, and those pro-lifers who... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #4

Except that anti-vaxxers are 7% of the population and GMO-labellers are 93% GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #6

Yeah, a state government passed a law based on bullshit. Archae Mar 2016 #10

80% Of Americans Support Mandatory Labels On Foods Containing DNA. DNA! HuckleB Mar 2016 #14

No conspiracy necessary, just general ignorance... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #16

You do realize the labeling bill failed in California and Washington, yes? Major Nikon Mar 2016 #18

The labeling law failed in California because the corrupted election officials in truedelphi Mar 2016 #28

Link? Major Nikon Mar 2016 #29

Do your own research. truedelphi Mar 2016 #56

I did and all I could find were batshit crazy sources Major Nikon Mar 2016 #57

Oh I am so sad for you. truedelphi Mar 2016 #84

So you can't back up one assertion and move on to 4 more? Major Nikon Mar 2016 #86

At the time this misconduct went down, reports came from more than a dozen different sources. truedelphi Apr 2016 #93

And yet you can't produce even one that's credible. Very telling that. Major Nikon Apr 2016 #94

GMO labeling initiatives also failed in Oregon and Colorado. HuckleB Mar 2016 #30

When asked what they want on food labels, only seven percent of people mentioned GMOs. HuckleB Mar 2016 #26

Feel the Bern - Bernie for GMO labeling! womanofthehills Apr 2016 #97

It's truly sad that pseudoscience infects even good people. HuckleB Apr 2016 #98

DEL MONTE goes full Monty !- Del Monte is going NO GMOs!!! womanofthehills Apr 2016 #99

Big Companies Are Going To Make Out In Places Like Vermont! HuckleB Apr 2016 #100

now you have done it SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #80

You're here, anyway. HuckleB Mar 2016 #81

I enjoy the clowns SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #85

Campbell Soup - Will label GMOs womanofthehills Apr 2016 #102

Let govenrment handle food wisechoice Mar 2016 #33

You're spam posting? HuckleB Mar 2016 #35

How would the labels punish Monsanto, and in addition, why should they be punished? Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #40

Is HuckleB trying to force feed us again? Generic Other Mar 2016 #51

Monsanto is a seed company and agribusiness that is larger than GMOs, they even sell... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #55

HuckleB must be paid by Monsanto - who would be against organic food? womanofthehills Apr 2016 #113

Organic is a marketing label. It is no better for anyone. HuckleB Apr 2016 #116

You badmouth organic wisechoice Apr 2016 #160

Are you seriously suggesting that Monsanto owns the entire GMO industry? Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #161

and there are many oil companies wisechoice Apr 2016 #168

How is Monsanto the "most evil"? n/t Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #186

The organic industry is built on creating baseless fear of other food. HuckleB Apr 2016 #162

organic farming is about doing wisechoice Apr 2016 #165

That's the marketing shtick. It's not reality. HuckleB Apr 2016 #173

so poor indian farmer wisechoice Apr 2016 #182

So you have nothing but fictions to offer. HuckleB Apr 2016 #187

Nonsense wisechoice Apr 2016 #190

You're promoting that long-debunked anti-GMO lie? HuckleB Apr 2016 #192

for people who thinks gmo is the only science wisechoice Apr 2016 #170

Youtube is not science. And no one said GMO is the only way. HuckleB Apr 2016 #174

and you can demonize organic farming? wisechoice Apr 2016 #183

Its correcting errors, a lot of people make claims about organic farming that are outright false... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #185

I point out the lies organic marketers tell. HuckleB Apr 2016 #188

And people point out dangers of gmo wisechoice Apr 2016 #191

You speak for farmers? HuckleB Apr 2016 #193

And you speak for Monsonto? wisechoice Apr 2016 #194

Way to dig that hole. Monsanto is not science and consensus. HuckleB Apr 2016 #197

"Organic" isn't science either. It's not even organic Major Nikon Apr 2016 #184

Says who? We need a lab and a microscope to call it science? wisechoice Apr 2016 #195

The USDA calls it marketing Major Nikon Apr 2016 #196

Here we go wisechoice Apr 2016 #205

No, there you go Major Nikon Apr 2016 #212

None of what you just said is true, absolutely nothing.... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #117

Pesticides - conventional vs organic from Consumer Reports womanofthehills Apr 2016 #121

I find it distressing that Consumer Reports seems to have relied on organic lobbyists and marketing. Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #128

CR went full bore with the anti-GMO silliness, indeed. HuckleB Apr 2016 #131

I find it distressing that you rely on Monsanto lobbyists womanofthehills Apr 2016 #151

This message was self-deleted by its author HuckleB Apr 2016 #156

The fact that you use a term like "frankenfoods" demonstrates to me that you don't know... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #164

They will punish them because companies like DelMonte who are going GMO free womanofthehills Apr 2016 #149

Monsanto sells conventional and organic seeds, too. HuckleB Apr 2016 #157

Maybe Turmeric will save the day - grows in tropics, lots of carotene Blues Heron Mar 2016 #8

Uhm, that article doesn't mention anything related to beta-carotene or Vitamin A... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #19

turmeric is loaded with carotene Blues Heron Mar 2016 #20

Actually, from what I read, its a trace amount at best... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #25

Tumeric research ongoing as a cancer treatment womanofthehills Apr 2016 #104

Campbells is labelling their GMO products voluntarily marions ghost Mar 2016 #11

You keep telling yourself that. HuckleB Mar 2016 #15

Excellent article marions ghost Mar 2016 #22

It's better if you read it, and comprehend it. HuckleB Mar 2016 #24

I read it and comprehend it marions ghost Mar 2016 #31

Ah, so more fictions are all you can offer. HuckleB Mar 2016 #38

So you would like children to die of vitamin deficiency? Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #17

--- marions ghost Mar 2016 #21

OK, how about an honest assessment, do you think genetically engineering... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #27

No I don't think Uganda should eat food I wouldn't eat marions ghost Mar 2016 #32

How would you fortify the food without genetic engineering? Also, I'm not a paid shill... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #36

No need to be so rabid about this then marions ghost Mar 2016 #41

Generally fortification involves either physically or chemically fortifying a processed food... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #44

I believe that the American people are guinea pigs marions ghost Mar 2016 #47

But GMOs are safety tested, so I'm not sure what the issue is. Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #49

Please provide links to these tests nationalize the fed Mar 2016 #61

Oh please, if they did safety tests on humans you would be complaining about that... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #76

The World Health Organization disagrees with you womanofthehills Apr 2016 #124

Are you still harping on about that, its already been debunked. And this has nothing to do with GMOs Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #134

She has pushed that multiple times on this thread in the past few minutes, in fact. HuckleB Apr 2016 #143

She's Gish Galloping this thread with bullshit that has NOTHING to do with this fucking banana crop. Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #145

It is amazing. HuckleB Apr 2016 #146

Wow! Eating too many GMOs - can't control your anger! womanofthehills Apr 2016 #202

Glyphosate throughout the plant womanofthehills Apr 2016 #200

GMO's are not safety tested womanofthehills Apr 2016 #126

Well that's just a straight up lie you just told, what cancer from GMOs? Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #136

Baseless fear mongering is now leading to detrimental decision making. HuckleB Mar 2016 #37

Propaganda marions ghost Mar 2016 #42

Baseless propaganda is all the anti-GMO fear mongerers have to offer, indeed. HuckleB Mar 2016 #43

So what do you think of the World Health Organization saying GMO's possibly cause cancer? womanofthehills Apr 2016 #125

The WHO says no such thing. HuckleB Apr 2016 #130

Even Frankenfoodbabe knows this is not true. HuckleB Apr 2016 #219

Growing carrots in Uganda Blues Heron Mar 2016 #34

That seems very small scale, is there a way to scale it up? n/t Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #39

The real problem is poverty itself Blues Heron Mar 2016 #45

Well, bananas are a staple crop, part of the reason they were selected... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #46

I'd go with the carrots - if possible Blues Heron Mar 2016 #48

It is largely a question of scale, and also whether the vegetable with get the market penetration... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #50

Do the people in third world nations even want the modified products? Generic Other Mar 2016 #53

That happened because of the misinformation campaign against GMOs spearheaded by Greenpeace... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #54

Link to above on Gates Foundation womanofthehills Apr 2016 #208

Agreed - they have many different varieties of bananas in Africa womanofthehills Apr 2016 #207

Some in Africa want the banana but many DO NOT want the banana! womanofthehills Apr 2016 #203

Might not be a good idea - banana not tested on humans yet womanofthehills Apr 2016 #204

I will not eat anything GMO womanofthehills Apr 2016 #122

thx for the list marions ghost Apr 2016 #123

In NM, I can only find organic corn womanofthehills Apr 2016 #129

I will be looking to do that marions ghost Apr 2016 #138

Consider the possibility So Far From Heaven Mar 2016 #58

So I should consider the possibility that science denial is the same as science acceptance Major Nikon Mar 2016 #59

Of course not. So Far From Heaven Mar 2016 #62

Global warming denial is about denying real science in favor of pseudoscience Major Nikon Mar 2016 #79

I think that is what I said using other terms. So Far From Heaven Apr 2016 #88

I think the reasons are multi-faceted Major Nikon Apr 2016 #89

Consider evolution versus creationism. So Far From Heaven Apr 2016 #91

By the way.... So Far From Heaven Apr 2016 #92

There is no GMO wheat. HuckleB Mar 2016 #64

I beg your pardon? Try again, and apologize after you get educated. So Far From Heaven Mar 2016 #66

Apologize for informing you of reality? HuckleB Mar 2016 #67

I repeat, Monsanto has produced and field tested GMO wheat in at least 400 trials. So Far From Heaven Mar 2016 #69

It has researched it, yes. (And you didn't repeat anything.) HuckleB Mar 2016 #70

No need. So Far From Heaven Mar 2016 #72

So you went from 400 trials to the small plot in Oregon. HuckleB Mar 2016 #73

Sounds like you are acknowledging the fact that GM wheat hasn't made it out of the testing stage Major Nikon Mar 2016 #82

Monsanto paranoid about their wheat seeds polluting the world of wheat womanofthehills Apr 2016 #106

So you're going to repeat what was already discussed here? HuckleB Apr 2016 #107

You repeat yourself post after post womanofthehills Apr 2016 #132

No, I just address misinformation with reality. HuckleB Apr 2016 #133

Give me a break womanofthehills Apr 2016 #139

Half the world doesn't do lots of things. HuckleB Apr 2016 #141

Try Monsanto MON71800 for starters. So Far From Heaven Mar 2016 #68

Try something that is in research, and has never been close to market? HuckleB Mar 2016 #71

What is it with you? So Far From Heaven Mar 2016 #74

What is it with you? HuckleB Mar 2016 #75

You love to belittle people when you make an argument womanofthehills Apr 2016 #135

No, I'm not. HuckleB Apr 2016 #137

Shouldn't that be MON72826? jmowreader Apr 2016 #209

This isn't like introducing Kudzu to a pristine environment, this is one man made/bred... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #77

As long as we have proper oversight and this isn't for corporate profiteering pediatricmedic Mar 2016 #60

As opposed to organic marketing... HuckleB Mar 2016 #63

I'll eat them PasadenaTrudy Mar 2016 #83

A GMO that'll make you healthier. Deadshot Apr 2016 #90

It's more like GMOs that will save millions of children from death and blindness... Major Nikon Apr 2016 #95

Ayup. Deadshot Apr 2016 #167

They don't even really create them directly Major Nikon Apr 2016 #171

WHO says it could cause cancer womanofthehills Apr 2016 #140

Why are you repeating something you have been shown is false? HuckleB Apr 2016 #142

World Health Organization Won�t Back Down From Study Linking Monsanto to Cancer womanofthehills Apr 2016 #148

Why are you doubling down on this untruth? HuckleB Apr 2016 #150

Uhm, she's a Food Babe fan, truth matters little to them. n/t Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #159

True. I forgot about that. Ugh. HuckleB Apr 2016 #163

Food Babe looks healthier than the one you quote all the time - Cristie Wilcox who eats her gmos womanofthehills Apr 2016 #198

Aww. You think appearance makes one understand science. HuckleB Apr 2016 #199

I'd rather eat what Food Babe is eating womanofthehills Apr 2016 #215

Your confessions of pride in ignorance are appreciated. HuckleB Apr 2016 #217

�There is just no acceptable level of any chemical to ingest, ever� Major Nikon Apr 2016 #175

I bet your not as healthy as Food Babe womanofthehills Apr 2016 #216

At least that makes up for her being dummer than a bag of hammers Major Nikon Apr 2016 #220

Interesting paper from the EFSA detailing how the IARC focused on bullshit instead of science Major Nikon Apr 2016 #178

Good piece! Thanks for sharing! HuckleB Apr 2016 #179

Here's another interesting nugget of info you won't hear from the anti-science crowd Major Nikon Apr 2016 #180

Ah, I had not seen that. HuckleB Apr 2016 #189

. Deadshot Apr 2016 #169

You should ask yourself the same question Major Nikon Apr 2016 #181

Detection of Glyphosate Residues in Animals and Humans - Environmental Toxicology womanofthehills Apr 2016 #211

Why does it not surprise me a food babe fan would not be able to recognize junk science? Major Nikon Apr 2016 #213

Why should I believe you? Deadshot Apr 2016 #166

I don't get bullshit. The WHO did not say GMOs could cause cancer. Major Nikon Apr 2016 #172

That's cool. Except the only reason people are dying from starvation now is political killbotfactory Apr 2016 #96

Umm. HuckleB Apr 2016 #103

There is no money in feeding people who can't afford it. killbotfactory Apr 2016 #105

In other words, you're ignoring a lot of information to maintain your POV. HuckleB Apr 2016 #108

GMOs have the potential to do great things, yes. killbotfactory Apr 2016 #110

Your argument is strawman nonsense Major Nikon Apr 2016 #114

You seem to have failed to understand the article, its taking a local staple crop and modifying it.. Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #118

The Need for Improved Food Production HuckleB Apr 2016 #101

Because of the Vermont Law, HockeyMom Apr 2016 #109

What is that difference exactly? Major Nikon Apr 2016 #115

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? n/t Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #119

Yea Vermont! womanofthehills Apr 2016 #147

They've done the same thing with golden rice alarimer Apr 2016 #111

It's astounding to see opposition to such work. HuckleB Apr 2016 #112

I saw arguments on this board against both golden rice and this banana that sums up to... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #120

What if they don't want your golden rice? womanofthehills Apr 2016 #152

Because of the immoral misinformation campaign? Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #153

OH PLEASE a REGULAR banana is loaded with nutrients. Potassium being just one bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #127

First off, its the cooking banana, a slightly different cultivar to the one we eat... Humanist_Activist Apr 2016 #144

Do you mean a plantain? womanofthehills Apr 2016 #154

Cooking bananas - Plantains - have 1400 IU of vitamin A womanofthehills Apr 2016 #155

Probably because you failed to read the OP Major Nikon Apr 2016 #176

Well, you know, reading is hard work. HuckleB Apr 2016 #177

Do your research womanofthehills Apr 2016 #201

Gotta love it when someone tells you to "do your research" that obviously didn't do their own Major Nikon Apr 2016 #218

In Uganda people have about 10 different types of staple bananas womanofthehills Apr 2016 #214

Then why is vitamin A deficiency a problem in the poorer regions? Major Nikon Apr 2016 #221

GMO tech developing healthier limes and blood oranges, also with a sweet color? HuckleB Apr 2016 #158

Students can get $900 to test eat one of these bananas at Iowa State Univ womanofthehills Apr 2016 #206

So we can genitically modify genes to produce helthier organs but not better food? Jitter65 Apr 2016 #210