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CompanyFirstSergeant

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9. No, it's not sour grapes...

Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:38 PM

Apr 2016

It's the simple - NON PARTISAN - fact that both front runners are - in effect - locked in a death grip WITH THEIR OWN PARTIES.

The Republican establishment (the current legislative branch) hates Trump.

The Democratic establishment (the current executive branch) may be about to indict Clinton.

Forget - totally - about Bernie right now. For this discussion he need not even exist.

The above two candidates are so beholden to established money, and not the voters, that...

They have lost all sense of serving the people, or even working within the system.

This is also why the 'down ballot' candidates have been ignored so far.

The head has become detached from the body - on both sides - and has become it's own monster.

And that monster does nothing but eat and grow (get donations and increase their own power)

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Margo Kidder's article: JDPriestly Apr 2016 #37

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40 years of GOP Control makes it look that way! Cryptoad Apr 2016 #6

No, it's not sour grapes... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #9

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