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Sorry to say this but I feel Obama's strong promotion of the TPP [View all] BigBearJohn Apr 2016 OP

Of course, sure. Negate his amazing accomplishments because one thing you disagree with. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #1

History will tell. BigBearJohn Apr 2016 #3

Trade deals basically hijack democracy Baobab Apr 2016 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author Baobab Apr 2016 #111

What achievements? Avalon Sparks Apr 2016 #18

the bar is submerged there AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #27

His amazing achievements Kall Apr 2016 #50

Sadly, you are correct. dchill Apr 2016 #51

ACA is his _only_ achievement. FTAs mean his work on labor and environment cprise Apr 2016 #74

How about the International Climate Accord Herman4747 Apr 2016 #101

Does a climate accord matter when FTAs allow sidestepping cprise Apr 2016 #104

Obama also deserves credit for the stimulus. Jim Lane Apr 2016 #121

Perhaps, but that is taking credit for throwing money at a robber cprise Apr 2016 #122

While negotiating Obama Care, Obama met with the big drug companies in secret.... raindaddy Apr 2016 #78

apparently you haven't grasped what TPP actually does Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #23

It's only a matter of time that US corps sue US for lost profits eniwetok Apr 2016 #39

The Canadian oil company is already suing us under the provisions of NAFTA. PatrickforO Apr 2016 #44

A Canadian Co with deep ties to the Koch Bros - Link here Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #58

Obama was the Judas Goat. DJ13 Apr 2016 #81

Not having a job would be very bad for people, wendylaroux Apr 2016 #29

Well, TPP is really, really bad. Have you read it? PatrickforO Apr 2016 #41

Yes...perfectly stated! Avalon Sparks Apr 2016 #84

Don't expect a response. He had the duty to get the number one response slot, drop a turd rhett o rick Apr 2016 #114

OK, you've got me... PatrickforO Apr 2016 #124

They are tactics dreamed up at the Cave Think Tank to get one up rhett o rick Apr 2016 #125

At first glance I thought you were being facisious and I started to laugh. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #113

Hmmm... what list of achievements? yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #2

Obama's bigger failures were... eniwetok Apr 2016 #4

Prosecute who and for what? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #8

oh you're right eniwetok Apr 2016 #12

I was speak of Wall street ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #13

No snark here! retrowire Apr 2016 #22

Bernie at his best. Thanks for posting. pberq Apr 2016 #90

oh im sure 1sbm will come around and reply. nt retrowire Apr 2016 #94

I don't think you want an answer eniwetok Apr 2016 #33

Corzine? MF Global? Let's start there. Yo_Mama Apr 2016 #19

And it's gone! AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #34

Allow me to make a suggestion AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #32

The Clintons probably had a chat with Obama at some point Califonz Apr 2016 #10

Plus they probably offered him a seven figure gig at the Clinton Foundation tularetom Apr 2016 #28

Boom. Never occurred to me but it is a distinct possibility. The Clinton Foundation thereismore Apr 2016 #53

And the under-reported huge fuck up: killing Ghaddafi and destabilizing Libya. virgista Apr 2016 #25

Wasn't that a cluster? Thanks, Hillary! Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #47

I think he sees the long-term importance of global trade, and benefits beyond just trade of bindi Hoyt Apr 2016 #5

And loudly so. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #9

Problem is labor zipplewrath Apr 2016 #45

Liberals (including FDR) in progressive countries have promoted global trade and pampango Apr 2016 #56

FDR promoted global trade because we had most of the trade pediatricmedic Apr 2016 #64

No he promoted trade because he thought it promoted peace and prosperity not just pampango Apr 2016 #75

A short history of Pampango's misuse of invoking FDR on DU: brentspeak Apr 2016 #85

Bull-fucking-shit. These deals allow capital to move freely while nailing labor to a cross of iron FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #108

Why is it then that wages are high and unions are strong in progressive countries which trade much pampango Apr 2016 #112

they have "Trade" with various protections of their countries that we used to have, E.G. Tariff's, FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #127

Progressive countries do not have higher tariffs than the US. If they did pampango Apr 2016 #128

Your Cherry Picking is nauseating. You can argue that NAFTA is a sympoton vs. a cause, FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #129

All economic activity "without appropriate protections" is a "disaster". We could eliminate trade pampango Apr 2016 #130

FDR's concept and espiernece with Trade is from a very different time when the FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #133

I am 'claiming' that FDR "would be fine" with the International Trade Organization the he proposed. pampango Apr 2016 #134

We Americans are sick of being sold out, of having our families and jobs and incomes and lives JDPriestly Apr 2016 #88

I know, America First, and screw everyone else. Hoyt Apr 2016 #93

I have lived in other countries. They take care of their citizens first. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #98

Nationalism is one of the world's biggest issues. Hoyt Apr 2016 #99

Finding the balance between democracy which means that an individual has a voice in the JDPriestly Apr 2016 #105

Which ones of the similar trade agreements since 1959 do you think sank the American worker? Hoyt Apr 2016 #106

Seriously disappointing. That and when he put Social Security on the table. Jackilope Apr 2016 #6

As I am endlessly reminded, Obama passed the ACA Maedhros Apr 2016 #7

ACA Old Codger Apr 2016 #16

+1000000 SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #17

I have a friend that says "it doesn't matter" Maedhros Apr 2016 #20

That may very well be Old Codger Apr 2016 #63

ACA was the Republican Plan (Heritage Foundation) for Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #61

He is in fact Old Codger Apr 2016 #65

good points Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #66

And boy did it help the insurance industry. zeemike Apr 2016 #62

Perspective scottie10 Apr 2016 #42

I don't hate it Old Codger Apr 2016 #67

The point is this: is the ACA such a massive benefit, Maedhros Apr 2016 #87

+100000 CharlotteVale Apr 2016 #15

All his financial "accomplishments" accelerated the movement of wealth upward toward those who need GoneFishin Apr 2016 #11

maybe the harm is being exaggerated? geek tragedy Apr 2016 #14

Instead of TPP, they should have called it simply TP tomm2thumbs Apr 2016 #21

I Have Been Saying The Same Thing scottie55 Apr 2016 #24

that of course is why he thought he could back TPP without any pushback MisterP Apr 2016 #26

IMO repeatedly accepting the party line LiberalElite Apr 2016 #40

Same here Populist_Prole Apr 2016 #69

well, that's a given despite the protestations of his more enamored supporters stupidicus Apr 2016 #30

The OP SCantiGOP Apr 2016 #31

The Op Didn't Say That scottie55 Apr 2016 #37

You got it, scottie55. Thanks BigBearJohn Apr 2016 #38

Paul Krugman doesn't think the TPP is horrible. Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #35

Of course not. TM99 Apr 2016 #52

So is Paul Krugman stupid, ignorant, deluded, being bribed, or some combination? (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #55

This is why it is extremely difficult to TM99 Apr 2016 #70

So saying, as the OP did, that the TPP will have a "disastrous effect on the future lives Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #77

NAFTA has been one of the most damaging 'free trade' deals TM99 Apr 2016 #83

Ditto re- all his economic policies. snot Apr 2016 #36

All this thread needs is a Dennis Kucinich reference. Bleacher Creature Apr 2016 #43

All of you should read "Empire of Cotton" by Sven Beckert, to see why Obama is in tune with ancianita Apr 2016 #46

Agreed. It's a shame... AzDar Apr 2016 #48

Perhaps in your mind it "overshadows and undermines...." lexington filly Apr 2016 #49

we are all defined by who and what we support and do stupidicus Apr 2016 #54

Why attack? Old Codger Apr 2016 #73

K&R! Omaha Steve Apr 2016 #57

I was looking for the people who are impossible to please thread BeyondGeography Apr 2016 #59

There's an entire main forum taken over by such people: GD:Primaries Paladin Apr 2016 #95

Oh, it's OK ... Jopin Klobe Apr 2016 #60

Wrong: you are a tpical Sanders person attacking one of the best Pesidents: you are helping. GOP lewebley3 Apr 2016 #68

Totally agree! d_legendary1 Apr 2016 #71

His "achievements" have already been badly overridden. DrBulldog Apr 2016 #72

People think that Citizen's United handed the the keys to the government to global corporations... raindaddy Apr 2016 #76

The Thirdway Completely. Bill = NAFTA Phlem Apr 2016 #79

Always struck me as quid pro quo. I get ACA you get TPP. WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #80

It isn't only Obama. Matilda Apr 2016 #82

i will not agree ... SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #86

See this video. Obama being visibly disingenuous as he tries and fails to sell the TPP. earthshine Apr 2016 #89

Recommend... KoKo Apr 2016 #100

I blame congressional republicans for passing it, just B Calm Apr 2016 #91

Trump would agree about TPP but he does not think Obama achieved anything 'positive' pampango Apr 2016 #92

Anti-Democratic flamebait shenmue Apr 2016 #96

Obama's final betrayal. Scuba Apr 2016 #97

Ah, you must be racist. nt MadDAsHell Apr 2016 #102

Effect of TPP ISDS dispute resolution process Arizona Roadrunner Apr 2016 #103

Obama's just working to secure his seat in "the club". He saw the Clintons amassed $230M+ after FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #107

Really? Loki Apr 2016 #109

Awesome cloud of freeper skunk-whiz! VOX Apr 2016 #115

I don't think the TPP will ever become global law. Rex Apr 2016 #116

Agreed nikto Apr 2016 #117

I agree lark Apr 2016 #118

oh, he's already preparing the "I absolutely have liberal instincts! I take full responsibility! MisterP Apr 2016 #119

I accept your apology for saying that. Iggo Apr 2016 #120

History will remember Obama mainly for this betrayal of American people on behalf of the 1%. Odin2005 Apr 2016 #123

They'll remember he is black zipplewrath Apr 2016 #131

I have to truly believe that Obama truly believes cheapdate Apr 2016 #126

Every time I encounter a statement beginning with "Sorry to say this" ... 11 Bravo Apr 2016 #132