General Discussion

WillowTree

(5,350 posts)

83. Does this only apply to Christian homeschoolers? Or all homeschoolers?

Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:27 PM

Apr 2016

Not all homeschoolers are necessarily Christians. If this only applies to Christian homeschoolers, then it certainly is discriminatory. If not, then the headline for the article (and this thread) is unnecessarily citing Christians per se.

That said, don't homeschooled kids have to pass exams specified by the states and if they do, don't they get some sort of diploma or certificate indicating that those test have been administered and passed? If so, no further certification ought to be required, whether they're Christians or not.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

195 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Christian homeschoolers cry discrimination after trade schools ask for proof they learned something [View all] SecularMotion Apr 2016 OP

Employers dare to ask for certificates! For others than those your friends and family made for you! DetlefK Apr 2016 #1

When done right, homeschooling is very effective and they DO get a certificate Perseus Apr 2016 #15

The operative words are right here: "The Christian legal advocacy group " hobbit709 Apr 2016 #16

The operative words are "when done right" progree Apr 2016 #17

I like the operative words "Like a Bolt from Above!" NBachers Apr 2016 #31

maybe God sent it? nt redwitch Apr 2016 #46

That's not even a dog whistle. That's like...a regular whistle. Iggo Apr 2016 #86

"they say graduates of traditional high schools are not required to take GED". dixiegrrrrl Apr 2016 #43

One of my friends Ms. Yertle Apr 2016 #75

Oh, I don't doubt that there are great homeschooled students, and that there are lousy high schools progree Apr 2016 #85

I might add that if someone said they are homeschooled and that's that and progree Apr 2016 #87

My friend does have a snotty attitude Ms. Yertle Apr 2016 #90

I wouldn't admit her to a college either. They look at more than grades you know progree Apr 2016 #91

If bad attitudes Ms. Yertle Apr 2016 #95

I edited my #91 a moment ago progree Apr 2016 #98

I appreciate the edit Ms. Yertle Apr 2016 #102

your friend sounds like a fucking snob Skittles Apr 2016 #159

Also the article says both of these cases the applicants had also graduated from State Universities ToxMarz Apr 2016 #58

Oops. I missed that part and I agree with the home schoolers. If they have already graduated from OregonBlue Apr 2016 #70

So after graduating from college, they went to police and cosmetology school? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #124

Many police departments require some college or even associates degree ToxMarz Apr 2016 #126

If "we" want people educated, then "we" are going to have to pay for it. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #137

But apparently these "home schoolers" just want these schools and police forces to take OregonBlue Apr 2016 #69

They graduated from state colleges. Isn't that enough for you? yeoman6987 Apr 2016 #74

Yes. I read the whole article and then posted an OOPS. If they have already graduated from a public OregonBlue Apr 2016 #114

I do the same thing from time to time. Have a great day!!!! yeoman6987 Apr 2016 #121

Home school requirements vary by state Freddie Apr 2016 #71

I agree. I am on the admissions board of a university yeoman6987 Apr 2016 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author Vilis Veritas Apr 2016 #84

Did you mean "certificates" like the college degrees that the kids involved in the story had? FBaggins Apr 2016 #172

It's not that unheard off for employers to ask for school-grades from way back. DetlefK Apr 2016 #173

That isn't the case here FBaggins Apr 2016 #174

Depends on the employer. DetlefK Apr 2016 #175

You were the first reply. Did you read the article? FBaggins Apr 2016 #176

I did read it. As I said, some employers demand those certificates. It's not unheard of. DetlefK Apr 2016 #182

They have college degrees oberliner Apr 2016 #181

but all i did was play video games while my parents fought! retrowire Apr 2016 #2

And read the Holee Bye-Ball FSogol Apr 2016 #32

"which they say graduates of traditional high schools are not required to do." hobbit709 Apr 2016 #3

And most states require passing a graduation exam salin Apr 2016 #10

Oh my goodness, yes. phylny Apr 2016 #11

I have a cousin who graduated Bob Jones University, and couldn't get into a Veterinary School. Fuddnik Apr 2016 #49

The same could probably be said Ms. Yertle Apr 2016 #78

Maybe they are going to specialize in... 3catwoman3 Apr 2016 #113

If you are a graduate from a certified school, you've already taken many exams, 1monster Apr 2016 #64

A high school diploma proves nothing of the sort. Ms. Yertle Apr 2016 #77

Gosh, it's as if employers had "sincerely held beliefs" that new hires should know something . . . . hatrack Apr 2016 #4

Hee hee. Good one. NT Jerry442 Apr 2016 #5

wow hatrack...you said it much better than what i had to offer dembotoz Apr 2016 #6

You win the Internets this morning! Fritz Walter Apr 2016 #13

I would think quoting a couple Bible verses should equate to real knowledge, shouldn't it? Scuba Apr 2016 #7

Earth is 6,000 years old rpannier Apr 2016 #9

Barely a C-. You forgot about the talking snake and the guy who lived in a whale. Scuba Apr 2016 #12

Don't forget the bible also includes a talking donkey (just like in Shrek!): FSogol Apr 2016 #34

Well, To Be Fair, He Didn't Live In The Whale ProfessorGAC Apr 2016 #38

I heard his roomies rpannier Apr 2016 #44

This post helps me understand why I can't find a kidnapper dressed as a fox in the Bible! Scuba Apr 2016 #53

So, it was some form of Whalebnb? n/t FSogol Apr 2016 #65

Mistranslation: Thor_MN Apr 2016 #151

Of course snakes can talk. Fuddnik Apr 2016 #50

Snort! Scuba Apr 2016 #51

Wayt a minute, I thot the Earth was 10,000 years old. A Simple Game Apr 2016 #14

Noah built in an aquarium into the Ark to save the whales? DetlefK Apr 2016 #21

As I call it. The heat induced hallucinations of a bunch of itinerant sheep herders. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #25

Of course he did. Fuddnik Apr 2016 #52

Of course! jonks2746 Apr 2016 #156

They both graduated from college oberliner Apr 2016 #180

Most high schoolers must pass state-mandated tests Ilsa Apr 2016 #8

Completely depends upon the state. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #36

Don't want to take an SAT safeinOhio Apr 2016 #18

harvard has a strong admissions preference for homeschooler and mopinko Apr 2016 #29

Only if those home schoolers can demonstrate unique achievements fasttense Apr 2016 #48

i didnt say it was. i didnt say harvard takes all homeschoolers. mopinko Apr 2016 #62

I don't know what home schoolers you know, fasttense Apr 2016 #73

well the research does not support your anecdotes. mopinko Apr 2016 #81

And your view is NOT prejudice? fasttense Apr 2016 #92

some are, some arent. mopinko Apr 2016 #93

Well....then..... where are your links????? n/t fasttense Apr 2016 #100

I don't believe you. I'd also like to see something to back that up. Atman Apr 2016 #110

Um, no Ms. Yertle Apr 2016 #123

homeschool goes far beyond the fundies. mopinko Apr 2016 #127

So.. where are your links to support your theory? n/t fasttense Apr 2016 #161

1% to 2% of home schoolers make it into Ivy League schools. Rex Apr 2016 #146

Thank you for some solid data. n/t fasttense Apr 2016 #162

NP. Almost 70% of students that complete HS enroll in college. Rex Apr 2016 #164

Thanks for the information. n/t fasttense Apr 2016 #165

And what percentage of public schooled children sense May 2016 #194

Ironically... you need the same lesson that your imagined homeschoolers require FBaggins Apr 2016 #183

ahh-- there's a catch, you're referring only to those "who go on to higher ed..." tnvoter Apr 2016 #112

I don't understand how my niece is qualified to teach five children, when she has a music degree. Atman Apr 2016 #115

ask the supreme court. mopinko Apr 2016 #132

my my. another one calling me a liar. mopinko Apr 2016 #129

Again, you fail to provide links. fasttense Apr 2016 #163

My niece home schools five kids...with a music education. Atman Apr 2016 #106

plenty of kids come out of public schools brain dead. mopinko Apr 2016 #130

Plenty more come out just fine. Atman Apr 2016 #133

"plenty" mopinko Apr 2016 #138

Wait, what? So now this is about bullying? Atman Apr 2016 #144

how much more involved can you be than homeschooling. mopinko Apr 2016 #145

"Maybe you should have been an involved parent" Lonusca Apr 2016 #149

No, I'm just guessing. Atman Apr 2016 #150

I actually mostly agree with you Lonusca Apr 2016 #178

Given your spelling, punctuation and capitilzation, you don't instill a lot of confidence. Atman Apr 2016 #96

there is research. mopinko Apr 2016 #101

It is prejudiced to claim you're not prejucided... Atman Apr 2016 #107

my kids are grown and gone on to college. mopinko Apr 2016 #131

mo, we've both been on DU for a very long time. Atman Apr 2016 #134

I agree with you rockfordfile Apr 2016 #154

There are a couple of very different types of homeschooling Marrah_G Apr 2016 #152

thank you. tho to be honest mopinko Apr 2016 #153

And you have NO research for your little anecdote either. n/t fasttense May 2016 #195

We homeschooled for academic reasons. sense May 2016 #193

Not true, homeschoolers make up less then 2% of harvard student population. Rex Apr 2016 #141

well, since they are a small percentage of the population, mopinko Apr 2016 #143

Not to a college lol. Rex Apr 2016 #147

if 1 in a 1000 are homeschooled? mopinko Apr 2016 #160

Well like I said upthread, I am not pushing public schools they have massive problems. Rex Apr 2016 #166

My brother and SIL homeschooled their kids Bettie Apr 2016 #19

Will they be "home employing" them post-graduation? hatrack Apr 2016 #24

They will be marrying "mature" men Bettie Apr 2016 #30

"Paging Rev. Jones, Rev. Jim Jones . . . . " hatrack Apr 2016 #55

since they generally don't even associate with people who are not from their church. AlbertCat Apr 2016 #56

Yeah, that's where I am too Bettie Apr 2016 #76

so do the men in this church wait to marry till they are mature? La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #135

I'm not clear on that, Bettie Apr 2016 #157

They're training for their Mrs. degrees. sofa king Apr 2016 #42

It seems that a lot of these home-schooled kids come from religious nutjobs rockfordfile Apr 2016 #155

OK, the dumbest part of it was suggesting a parent-issued diploma was OK, but... TreasonousBastard Apr 2016 #20

I've always wondered.... swwallace81 Apr 2016 #22

I think some graduated from Trump University. B Calm Apr 2016 #27

Something's missing from this story. Captain Stern Apr 2016 #23

many take the sat or act instead. mopinko Apr 2016 #33

No, not necessarily. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #35

Community colleges don't always require a HS diploma Nevernose Apr 2016 #40

Dual enrollment. Excellent point! Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #89

Or shouldn't those college (from state colleges) diplomas supercede the need for a GED? salin Apr 2016 #60

I would say if they graduated from an accredited college, then HS status may not matter. SharonAnn Apr 2016 #148

Reality bites. Odin2005 Apr 2016 #26

did anybody read the link? one plaintiff had a bachelors and the other had mopinko Apr 2016 #28

I don't think many did. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #41

i hear ya. me too. mopinko Apr 2016 #45

The mother of my God Daughter is considering home schooling d_legendary1 Apr 2016 #68

Can't blame her a bit for considering it Ms. Yertle Apr 2016 #80

The wife and I did some research along with a few of her friends d_legendary1 Apr 2016 #109

My son decided he wanted to attend high school. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #111

Glad you ruined his education d_legendary1 Apr 2016 #117

Thanks! Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #118

Most kids are knowledge-sponges Ms. Yertle Apr 2016 #116

I taught my eldest to read when out walking. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #119

one of the best outcomes for my kids is mopinko Apr 2016 #136

Two of my wife's friends are E.C.s d_legendary1 Apr 2016 #120

so many misconceptions about home education that abound. AlbertCat Apr 2016 #61

one plaintiff had a bachelors, for pete sake. mopinko Apr 2016 #63

the crappy ones are the minority, AlbertCat Apr 2016 #67

Do you think it unreasonable to require someone with a bachelor's degree to take the GED? Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #88

Do you think it unreasonable to require someone with a bachelor's degree to take the GED? AlbertCat Apr 2016 #125

Requiring something unnecessary that creates a burden on a person strikes me as unreasonable. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #168

It's getting pretty strange in my state(MO)... freebrew Apr 2016 #37

" I would really like to see some federal over-sight on these things." Iris Apr 2016 #192

But Mom says in smart! I got all A's!! underpants Apr 2016 #39

Fugg 'em malaise Apr 2016 #47

bring on the home-schooled surgeons! n/t eniwetok Apr 2016 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #99

I would be happy if they could just show they understand they have to play by Baitball Blogger Apr 2016 #57

That's a tough one because... Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #104

Christian homeschoolers cry discrimination AlbertCat Apr 2016 #59

Raise your hand bighart Apr 2016 #66

dont hold your breath. mopinko Apr 2016 #82

I know a young man who "went" through the online Florida Highschool program csziggy Apr 2016 #79

Does this only apply to Christian homeschoolers? Or all homeschoolers? WillowTree Apr 2016 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #94

it varies from state to state. mopinko Apr 2016 #97

...... daleanime Apr 2016 #103

Would it be safe to assume the replies from all the folks who didn't bother to read the article Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #105

It might, I haven't read the responses.... daleanime Apr 2016 #108

Anyone else need some butter? Initech Apr 2016 #122

Know what's missing from this discussion? Jerry442 Apr 2016 #128

well my dogs are all pretty well trained, too. mopinko Apr 2016 #139

I'm a victim of home schooling Sam_Fields Apr 2016 #140

Around 4% of the population home schools and there is a good reason for that small a number. Rex Apr 2016 #142

That's an interesting claim FBaggins Apr 2016 #167

I hope you aren't holding your breath. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #170

No kidding FBaggins Apr 2016 #171

Well I know that the plural of anecdote is not data, but... Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #177

LOL! Rex Apr 2016 #186

You will have to clarify what you mean. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #190

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #187

Already pointed it out upthread, maybe you should read it. Rex Apr 2016 #185

I did read it... and no, you didn't. FBaggins Apr 2016 #188

This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #191

LOL! Make a claim like that you better be prepared to back it up! Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #169

Already did read the thread. Rex Apr 2016 #184

"Snotty people have to do there own work." FBaggins Apr 2016 #189

It seems that most of these Home-schooled kids are religious types rockfordfile Apr 2016 #158

The Christian homeschoolers in question both have college degrees oberliner Apr 2016 #179