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Jerry442

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128. Know what's missing from this discussion?

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Apr 5, 2016, 04:34 PM

Apr 2016

A fully-certified home-schooled dog. Do it, somebody.

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Christian homeschoolers cry discrimination after trade schools ask for proof they learned something [View all] SecularMotion Apr 2016 OP

Employers dare to ask for certificates! For others than those your friends and family made for you! DetlefK Apr 2016 #1

When done right, homeschooling is very effective and they DO get a certificate Perseus Apr 2016 #15

The operative words are right here: "The Christian legal advocacy group " hobbit709 Apr 2016 #16

The operative words are "when done right" progree Apr 2016 #17

I like the operative words "Like a Bolt from Above!" NBachers Apr 2016 #31

maybe God sent it? nt redwitch Apr 2016 #46

That's not even a dog whistle. That's like...a regular whistle. Iggo Apr 2016 #86

"they say graduates of traditional high schools are not required to take GED". dixiegrrrrl Apr 2016 #43

One of my friends Ms. Yertle Apr 2016 #75

Oh, I don't doubt that there are great homeschooled students, and that there are lousy high schools progree Apr 2016 #85

I might add that if someone said they are homeschooled and that's that and progree Apr 2016 #87

My friend does have a snotty attitude Ms. Yertle Apr 2016 #90

I wouldn't admit her to a college either. They look at more than grades you know progree Apr 2016 #91

If bad attitudes Ms. Yertle Apr 2016 #95

I edited my #91 a moment ago progree Apr 2016 #98

I appreciate the edit Ms. Yertle Apr 2016 #102

your friend sounds like a fucking snob Skittles Apr 2016 #159

Also the article says both of these cases the applicants had also graduated from State Universities ToxMarz Apr 2016 #58

Oops. I missed that part and I agree with the home schoolers. If they have already graduated from OregonBlue Apr 2016 #70

So after graduating from college, they went to police and cosmetology school? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #124

Many police departments require some college or even associates degree ToxMarz Apr 2016 #126

If "we" want people educated, then "we" are going to have to pay for it. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #137

But apparently these "home schoolers" just want these schools and police forces to take OregonBlue Apr 2016 #69

They graduated from state colleges. Isn't that enough for you? yeoman6987 Apr 2016 #74

Yes. I read the whole article and then posted an OOPS. If they have already graduated from a public OregonBlue Apr 2016 #114

I do the same thing from time to time. Have a great day!!!! yeoman6987 Apr 2016 #121

Home school requirements vary by state Freddie Apr 2016 #71

I agree. I am on the admissions board of a university yeoman6987 Apr 2016 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author Vilis Veritas Apr 2016 #84

Did you mean "certificates" like the college degrees that the kids involved in the story had? FBaggins Apr 2016 #172

It's not that unheard off for employers to ask for school-grades from way back. DetlefK Apr 2016 #173

That isn't the case here FBaggins Apr 2016 #174

Depends on the employer. DetlefK Apr 2016 #175

You were the first reply. Did you read the article? FBaggins Apr 2016 #176

I did read it. As I said, some employers demand those certificates. It's not unheard of. DetlefK Apr 2016 #182

They have college degrees oberliner Apr 2016 #181

but all i did was play video games while my parents fought! retrowire Apr 2016 #2

And read the Holee Bye-Ball FSogol Apr 2016 #32

"which they say graduates of traditional high schools are not required to do." hobbit709 Apr 2016 #3

And most states require passing a graduation exam salin Apr 2016 #10

Oh my goodness, yes. phylny Apr 2016 #11

I have a cousin who graduated Bob Jones University, and couldn't get into a Veterinary School. Fuddnik Apr 2016 #49

The same could probably be said Ms. Yertle Apr 2016 #78

Maybe they are going to specialize in... 3catwoman3 Apr 2016 #113

If you are a graduate from a certified school, you've already taken many exams, 1monster Apr 2016 #64

A high school diploma proves nothing of the sort. Ms. Yertle Apr 2016 #77

Gosh, it's as if employers had "sincerely held beliefs" that new hires should know something . . . . hatrack Apr 2016 #4

Hee hee. Good one. NT Jerry442 Apr 2016 #5

wow hatrack...you said it much better than what i had to offer dembotoz Apr 2016 #6

You win the Internets this morning! Fritz Walter Apr 2016 #13

I would think quoting a couple Bible verses should equate to real knowledge, shouldn't it? Scuba Apr 2016 #7

Earth is 6,000 years old rpannier Apr 2016 #9

Barely a C-. You forgot about the talking snake and the guy who lived in a whale. Scuba Apr 2016 #12

Don't forget the bible also includes a talking donkey (just like in Shrek!): FSogol Apr 2016 #34

Well, To Be Fair, He Didn't Live In The Whale ProfessorGAC Apr 2016 #38

I heard his roomies rpannier Apr 2016 #44

This post helps me understand why I can't find a kidnapper dressed as a fox in the Bible! Scuba Apr 2016 #53

So, it was some form of Whalebnb? n/t FSogol Apr 2016 #65

Mistranslation: Thor_MN Apr 2016 #151

Of course snakes can talk. Fuddnik Apr 2016 #50

Snort! Scuba Apr 2016 #51

Wayt a minute, I thot the Earth was 10,000 years old. A Simple Game Apr 2016 #14

Noah built in an aquarium into the Ark to save the whales? DetlefK Apr 2016 #21

As I call it. The heat induced hallucinations of a bunch of itinerant sheep herders. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #25

Of course he did. Fuddnik Apr 2016 #52

Of course! jonks2746 Apr 2016 #156

They both graduated from college oberliner Apr 2016 #180

Most high schoolers must pass state-mandated tests Ilsa Apr 2016 #8

Completely depends upon the state. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #36

Don't want to take an SAT safeinOhio Apr 2016 #18

harvard has a strong admissions preference for homeschooler and mopinko Apr 2016 #29

Only if those home schoolers can demonstrate unique achievements fasttense Apr 2016 #48

i didnt say it was. i didnt say harvard takes all homeschoolers. mopinko Apr 2016 #62

I don't know what home schoolers you know, fasttense Apr 2016 #73

well the research does not support your anecdotes. mopinko Apr 2016 #81

And your view is NOT prejudice? fasttense Apr 2016 #92

some are, some arent. mopinko Apr 2016 #93

Well....then..... where are your links????? n/t fasttense Apr 2016 #100

I don't believe you. I'd also like to see something to back that up. Atman Apr 2016 #110

Um, no Ms. Yertle Apr 2016 #123

homeschool goes far beyond the fundies. mopinko Apr 2016 #127

So.. where are your links to support your theory? n/t fasttense Apr 2016 #161

1% to 2% of home schoolers make it into Ivy League schools. Rex Apr 2016 #146

Thank you for some solid data. n/t fasttense Apr 2016 #162

NP. Almost 70% of students that complete HS enroll in college. Rex Apr 2016 #164

Thanks for the information. n/t fasttense Apr 2016 #165

And what percentage of public schooled children sense May 2016 #194

Ironically... you need the same lesson that your imagined homeschoolers require FBaggins Apr 2016 #183

ahh-- there's a catch, you're referring only to those "who go on to higher ed..." tnvoter Apr 2016 #112

I don't understand how my niece is qualified to teach five children, when she has a music degree. Atman Apr 2016 #115

ask the supreme court. mopinko Apr 2016 #132

my my. another one calling me a liar. mopinko Apr 2016 #129

Again, you fail to provide links. fasttense Apr 2016 #163

My niece home schools five kids...with a music education. Atman Apr 2016 #106

plenty of kids come out of public schools brain dead. mopinko Apr 2016 #130

Plenty more come out just fine. Atman Apr 2016 #133

"plenty" mopinko Apr 2016 #138

Wait, what? So now this is about bullying? Atman Apr 2016 #144

how much more involved can you be than homeschooling. mopinko Apr 2016 #145

"Maybe you should have been an involved parent" Lonusca Apr 2016 #149

No, I'm just guessing. Atman Apr 2016 #150

I actually mostly agree with you Lonusca Apr 2016 #178

Given your spelling, punctuation and capitilzation, you don't instill a lot of confidence. Atman Apr 2016 #96

there is research. mopinko Apr 2016 #101

It is prejudiced to claim you're not prejucided... Atman Apr 2016 #107

my kids are grown and gone on to college. mopinko Apr 2016 #131

mo, we've both been on DU for a very long time. Atman Apr 2016 #134

I agree with you rockfordfile Apr 2016 #154

There are a couple of very different types of homeschooling Marrah_G Apr 2016 #152

thank you. tho to be honest mopinko Apr 2016 #153

And you have NO research for your little anecdote either. n/t fasttense May 2016 #195

We homeschooled for academic reasons. sense May 2016 #193

Not true, homeschoolers make up less then 2% of harvard student population. Rex Apr 2016 #141

well, since they are a small percentage of the population, mopinko Apr 2016 #143

Not to a college lol. Rex Apr 2016 #147

if 1 in a 1000 are homeschooled? mopinko Apr 2016 #160

Well like I said upthread, I am not pushing public schools they have massive problems. Rex Apr 2016 #166

My brother and SIL homeschooled their kids Bettie Apr 2016 #19

Will they be "home employing" them post-graduation? hatrack Apr 2016 #24

They will be marrying "mature" men Bettie Apr 2016 #30

"Paging Rev. Jones, Rev. Jim Jones . . . . " hatrack Apr 2016 #55

since they generally don't even associate with people who are not from their church. AlbertCat Apr 2016 #56

Yeah, that's where I am too Bettie Apr 2016 #76

so do the men in this church wait to marry till they are mature? La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #135

I'm not clear on that, Bettie Apr 2016 #157

They're training for their Mrs. degrees. sofa king Apr 2016 #42

It seems that a lot of these home-schooled kids come from religious nutjobs rockfordfile Apr 2016 #155

OK, the dumbest part of it was suggesting a parent-issued diploma was OK, but... TreasonousBastard Apr 2016 #20

I've always wondered.... swwallace81 Apr 2016 #22

I think some graduated from Trump University. B Calm Apr 2016 #27

Something's missing from this story. Captain Stern Apr 2016 #23

many take the sat or act instead. mopinko Apr 2016 #33

No, not necessarily. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #35

Community colleges don't always require a HS diploma Nevernose Apr 2016 #40

Dual enrollment. Excellent point! Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #89

Or shouldn't those college (from state colleges) diplomas supercede the need for a GED? salin Apr 2016 #60

I would say if they graduated from an accredited college, then HS status may not matter. SharonAnn Apr 2016 #148

Reality bites. Odin2005 Apr 2016 #26

did anybody read the link? one plaintiff had a bachelors and the other had mopinko Apr 2016 #28

I don't think many did. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #41

i hear ya. me too. mopinko Apr 2016 #45

The mother of my God Daughter is considering home schooling d_legendary1 Apr 2016 #68

Can't blame her a bit for considering it Ms. Yertle Apr 2016 #80

The wife and I did some research along with a few of her friends d_legendary1 Apr 2016 #109

My son decided he wanted to attend high school. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #111

Glad you ruined his education d_legendary1 Apr 2016 #117

Thanks! Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #118

Most kids are knowledge-sponges Ms. Yertle Apr 2016 #116

I taught my eldest to read when out walking. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #119

one of the best outcomes for my kids is mopinko Apr 2016 #136

Two of my wife's friends are E.C.s d_legendary1 Apr 2016 #120

so many misconceptions about home education that abound. AlbertCat Apr 2016 #61

one plaintiff had a bachelors, for pete sake. mopinko Apr 2016 #63

the crappy ones are the minority, AlbertCat Apr 2016 #67

Do you think it unreasonable to require someone with a bachelor's degree to take the GED? Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #88

Do you think it unreasonable to require someone with a bachelor's degree to take the GED? AlbertCat Apr 2016 #125

Requiring something unnecessary that creates a burden on a person strikes me as unreasonable. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #168

It's getting pretty strange in my state(MO)... freebrew Apr 2016 #37

" I would really like to see some federal over-sight on these things." Iris Apr 2016 #192

But Mom says in smart! I got all A's!! underpants Apr 2016 #39

Fugg 'em malaise Apr 2016 #47

bring on the home-schooled surgeons! n/t eniwetok Apr 2016 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #99

I would be happy if they could just show they understand they have to play by Baitball Blogger Apr 2016 #57

That's a tough one because... Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #104

Christian homeschoolers cry discrimination AlbertCat Apr 2016 #59

Raise your hand bighart Apr 2016 #66

dont hold your breath. mopinko Apr 2016 #82

I know a young man who "went" through the online Florida Highschool program csziggy Apr 2016 #79

Does this only apply to Christian homeschoolers? Or all homeschoolers? WillowTree Apr 2016 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #94

it varies from state to state. mopinko Apr 2016 #97

...... daleanime Apr 2016 #103

Would it be safe to assume the replies from all the folks who didn't bother to read the article Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #105

It might, I haven't read the responses.... daleanime Apr 2016 #108

Anyone else need some butter? Initech Apr 2016 #122

Know what's missing from this discussion? Jerry442 Apr 2016 #128

well my dogs are all pretty well trained, too. mopinko Apr 2016 #139

I'm a victim of home schooling Sam_Fields Apr 2016 #140

Around 4% of the population home schools and there is a good reason for that small a number. Rex Apr 2016 #142

That's an interesting claim FBaggins Apr 2016 #167

I hope you aren't holding your breath. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #170

No kidding FBaggins Apr 2016 #171

Well I know that the plural of anecdote is not data, but... Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #177

LOL! Rex Apr 2016 #186

You will have to clarify what you mean. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #190

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #187

Already pointed it out upthread, maybe you should read it. Rex Apr 2016 #185

I did read it... and no, you didn't. FBaggins Apr 2016 #188

This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #191

LOL! Make a claim like that you better be prepared to back it up! Pacifist Patriot Apr 2016 #169

Already did read the thread. Rex Apr 2016 #184

"Snotty people have to do there own work." FBaggins Apr 2016 #189

It seems that most of these Home-schooled kids are religious types rockfordfile Apr 2016 #158

The Christian homeschoolers in question both have college degrees oberliner Apr 2016 #179