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eniwetok

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131. makes no sense

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:10 PM

Apr 2016

Businesses get freebies from government as discussed here http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027733743

As beneficiaries of social benefits they also have to serve the needs of society... to pay a reasonable MW, to provide safe working conditions, pay OT over 40 hours... etc. The question is what's a reasonable MW for unskilled labor in ALL parts of the nation?

It's pretty difficult to make the argument that of $15 is a "living wage" for a high flying city... then it must be also applied to even depressed small towns. Which is why I've argued for a return of the highest the MW has ever been... which today would be about $11. It's clear from BEA and BLS numbers that the economy was able to absorb this without problems. But since 1968 the economy has become increasingly addicted to a depreciating MW... and some is making off with that value that should be going to workers.

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Let's pay 16 year olds $31.2k to sweep floors!!!! [View all] eniwetok Apr 2016 OP

Because of GOP obstruction and our unwillingness to fix our trade situation, the person sweeping Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #1

The MW doesn't discriminate eniwetok Apr 2016 #24

Even in rural areas, $15 isn't living high on the hog. Food is usually higher, no mass transit syste Hestia Apr 2016 #306

joe can wash the floor clean the toilet pick up trash all by himself saturnsring Apr 2016 #2

40 hrs a week? - why isn't that 16 year old in school lame54 Apr 2016 #206

even better saturnsring Apr 2016 #227

So when that janitor is a single mom working nights as a second job to feed her kids what then? nt revbones Apr 2016 #3

OK... raise it to $25 eniwetok Apr 2016 #12

Are you related to the President of the San Diego Chamber? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #69

By extrapolating your argument, why not lower it to 25�? LanternWaste Apr 2016 #75

makes no sense eniwetok Apr 2016 #131

Here's the problem, The single mom TexasProgresive Apr 2016 #144

The KKK General store may have bigger problems. n/t cigsandcoffee Apr 2016 #4

Ha! I thought the same thing! Adrahil Apr 2016 #132

Well, I should have known that KKKarl Rove has a General Corruption Store. madinmaryland Apr 2016 #195

You sound like a republican! I was making as a secretary in 1988 $15 an hour damnit bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #5

a secular amen to that! nt restorefreedom Apr 2016 #134

Ditto! corbettkroehler Apr 2016 #180

yep! An adult who needs to pay the bills and maybe has a kid or two dana_b Apr 2016 #267

Didn't We Do This Already? ProfessorGAC Apr 2016 #6

Weren't you banging the drum about this yesterday? mac56 Apr 2016 #7

Yep...this appears to be his raison d'etre for being on DU. JimDandy Apr 2016 #109

Very telling that Major Nikon Apr 2016 #196

And pimping Nader, defending the SCOTUS and.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2016 #274

Among other 'bait' topics. n/t X_Digger Apr 2016 #223

Hooo boy. HughBeaumont Apr 2016 #8

We pay asshole bankers billions, why not pay kids well too? nt bemildred Apr 2016 #9

Yes, that's normally a very successful argument when asking your boss for a raise (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #96

We are not asking. nt bemildred Apr 2016 #98

gee.... because not every business is a bank? n/t eniwetok Apr 2016 #165

Sounds good to me. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2016 #10

Yep. Even fascist ant-Semite Henry Ford knew paying his workers enough to afford his cars was... Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2016 #44

Actually that was just spin. He raised wages to stop 370% turnover at a terrible job whatthehey Apr 2016 #89

good question eniwetok Apr 2016 #111

I can quibble with the emphasis but not the facts whatthehey Apr 2016 #128

Ford's raise = $592 a week today eniwetok Apr 2016 #138

Good point about the $5 to $6 raise scscholar Apr 2016 #115

If the 16 year old is working 2080 hours a year TexasProgresive Apr 2016 #11

I certainly agree.... but... Adrahil Apr 2016 #135

Lets do the math krawhitham Apr 2016 #250

The whole and entire point is that there are vastly different costs of living across the US pipoman Apr 2016 #269

No, not as much as you think krawhitham Apr 2016 #293

No, cost of living isn't the same everywhere. pipoman Apr 2016 #295

Here's the issue I havee with that. Adrahil Apr 2016 #278

Ohio is a low cost area krawhitham Apr 2016 #294

But Ohio isn't homogeneous. Adrahil Apr 2016 #304

Great idea eniwetok, kids need money!!! winstars Apr 2016 #13

Or maybe they can start saving for college, given how horribly costs have risen. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2016 #32

The costs of textbooks are fucking obscene too. azmom Apr 2016 #112

A-men DustyJoe Apr 2016 #123

I was shocked that my most recent textbook costs Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2016 #280

how is that the gas station owner's problem? eniwetok Apr 2016 #120

No, I was just pointing out that there's no reason to discriminate among workers based on age. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2016 #281

BAM! trumad Apr 2016 #141

In 2012 when fast food workers determined a living wage, they settled on $15 as a national need. Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #14

The Fight For 15 movement STARTED IN NYC eniwetok Apr 2016 #28

$15 living high on the hog? You must have some real issues with poor people. Might I suggest you Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #34

CHALLANGE: How many GOPers back a $11 or $15 MW? eniwetok Apr 2016 #48

Willfull ignorance is a poor defense. Were you a student of Bernie's plan to surmount the current Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #64

Gee... what disposition? eniwetok Apr 2016 #85

In 1968 dollars that is more like 20 nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #81

There are a lot of partially correct assumptions in this thread. Igel Apr 2016 #88

The same two issues... Chan790 Apr 2016 #67

Maybe, just maybe the depressed areas of the nation wouldn't be depressed if people made shraby Apr 2016 #86

LOL. phylny Apr 2016 #215

I see people moving south all the time to save money Jim Beard Apr 2016 #256

Sure, if you want a decreased quality of living. MillennialDem Apr 2016 #261

it's BARELY a living wage in NY or SF dana_b Apr 2016 #268

Your numbers are bogus. The bogus one is the $25k number. FSogol Apr 2016 #15

If an owner can't afford to pay workers a fair rate.... eniwetok Apr 2016 #52

Show me one business anywhere that went under because the minimum wage raised. FSogol Apr 2016 #70

you do realize that the higher MW now is $10... right? eniwetok Apr 2016 #181

Another red herring. What is, The $15 will be phased in. I'll take GOP talking points for $500! FSogol Apr 2016 #218

Gee my high school freshman has a better grasp on economics than the OP HOPNOSH Apr 2016 #257

Basic economics and math. Chan790 Apr 2016 #80

"city or some dumpy rural village?" Person 2713 Apr 2016 #107

I see your point treestar Apr 2016 #199

That is such bs!! agnostic102 Apr 2016 #253

You dropped out of collage? HOPNOSH Apr 2016 #259

Yes i dropped out agnostic102 Apr 2016 #313

I couldn't agree more. There is a HUGE difference between a small business owner & a LG corp. AgadorSparticus Apr 2016 #307

What business are you in? nt Glassunion Apr 2016 #310

Another anti-minimum wage piece that hinges on screeching about teenagers Scootaloo Apr 2016 #16

you made no argument eniwetok Apr 2016 #29

That's because I'm making an observation Scootaloo Apr 2016 #38

They need to make an "I Love Bernie Butt". HughBeaumont Apr 2016 #17

You love Bernie Butt? Scootaloo Apr 2016 #26

You're spot on, there muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #41

Nice one! HughBeaumont Apr 2016 #59

Somewhat agree Visionary Apr 2016 #18

Do you work these jobs? Scootaloo Apr 2016 #27

If it should be raised to inflationary terms $15 is a joke HOPNOSH Apr 2016 #262

I agree with you but I stopped at the headline. nt. My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #19

You never seem to advocate FOR anything tkmorris Apr 2016 #20

Yeah, that's kind of a Republican trait, isn't it? FSogol Apr 2016 #23

first of all, not ALL DUers agree... but here's some of my wish list eniwetok Apr 2016 #40

Not a terrible list tkmorris Apr 2016 #102

+ 1 The jury is no longer out... JimDandy Apr 2016 #116

thanks for that. eniwetok Apr 2016 #140

OP was for illustation purposes... eniwetok Apr 2016 #125

The "small" company that can hire someone to spend 40 a week on sweeping Taitertots Apr 2016 #21

Are those really full time, year round jobs? surrealAmerican Apr 2016 #22

Of course not, but the truth would have spoiled the headline Doctor_J Apr 2016 #201

That doesn't sound like a full-time, 40-hrs-a-week job to me. Demit Apr 2016 #25

What is wrong with you? This is your second OP on this topic. Need more drama? octoberlib Apr 2016 #30

Maybe he's trolling for pizza SwankyXomb Apr 2016 #47

Conservadem, that be my guess nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #72

Ze posts about it as a single-issue poster like it was hir job or something. Chan790 Apr 2016 #82

Let's get real. peace13 Apr 2016 #31

+1! n/t Chan790 Apr 2016 #84

Yes. Let's. Because that 16 year old will spend that money whatthehey Apr 2016 #33

exactly. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2016 #282

Funny thing about arguments against raising the minimum wage Orrex Apr 2016 #35

On that note . . . . HughBeaumont Apr 2016 #54

Reprehensible indeed Orrex Apr 2016 #77

+1,000,000 ... 000 HuckleB Apr 2016 #57

Can I try to address this question seriously, in contrast to the snarky "you're a Republican" Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #36

And, this is where discussion of universal basic income comes in ... nt salinsky Apr 2016 #49

An interesting article about it... OneGrassRoot Apr 2016 #137

Er . . . . HughBeaumont Apr 2016 #62

You realize most of those mythical kids with brooms nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #79

How does that change any of my analysis in any way? (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #83

First assumption that MW workers are teens nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #87

It never was that great of an analysis to begin with Major Nikon Apr 2016 #222

You think the guy who owns a fast-food restaurant cares about the economy's overall productivity? Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #224

It doesn't really matter if he cares about it or not Major Nikon Apr 2016 #231

He will indeed be paying the remaining employees more money. Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #233

Nobody is going to replace workers with automation unless they are saving money Major Nikon Apr 2016 #236

The "losers" are the ones who don't have jobs anymore, Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #238

Which is going to happen regardless of what the MW is Major Nikon Apr 2016 #240

The point is, the economics of automation become vastly more compelling Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #241

It's a pretty piss poor point then Major Nikon Apr 2016 #246

I thought it was obvious that cashiers earning $10 per hour Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #248

So it would be even more obvious for those making $30 per hour Major Nikon Apr 2016 #249

missing the point that $15 would ALSO APPLY TO THOSE TEENS eniwetok Apr 2016 #159

And you are goign against the spirit and letter of the 1938 law that established minimum wage nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #160

You are really yuiyoshida Apr 2016 #37

Fuck any job that can't pay a living wage. hunter Apr 2016 #39

.... salinsky Apr 2016 #50

Why doesn't a 16 yr old deserve the same minimum wage as an "adult?" justiceischeap Apr 2016 #42

You make a good point that more seniority should not necessarily result in higher pay. Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #58

It's not even about merit pay justiceischeap Apr 2016 #60

I certainly agree that a bright teen may well be more valuable than a time-served 45-year old, Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #66

As a 45 yr old that faces possible age discrimination in my field justiceischeap Apr 2016 #156

If that 16 year old wants to go to college, CrispyQ Apr 2016 #43

I admire the lengths you conservatives go to insure the poor stay poor. tenderfoot Apr 2016 #45

ROTF eniwetok Apr 2016 #61

If college costs $40,000/year coyote Apr 2016 #46

What's a 16 year old doing working a 40 hour work week? Vinca Apr 2016 #51

And 50 weeks a year Doctor_J Apr 2016 #203

If a 16-year-old is working 40 hours a week, he/she may be supporting the family. HuckleB Apr 2016 #53

lol SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #55

16-year-olds seldom if ever work full time KamaAina Apr 2016 #56

Think about why you view East Coalcake, WV as a source of parody. KamaAina Apr 2016 #63

Since most custodial work is done nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #65

If you want that 16 year old to work over 2000 hours a year, then pay him or her a full time wage. stone space Apr 2016 #68

How many 16-year-olds work 40 hours per week? Oneironaut Apr 2016 #71

What then is the precise minimal wage you believe should be paid LanternWaste Apr 2016 #73

This seems reasonable: Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #76

So now you want to discriminate workers based on age? B Calm Apr 2016 #74

You raise a reasonable point. Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #78

Was that supposed to make sense? eniwetok Apr 2016 #94

In your opening post you said 16 yr olds. B Calm Apr 2016 #97

You made age an issue Bradical79 Apr 2016 #114

If you need Uponthegears Apr 2016 #90

You don't really love Bernie. The Midway Rebel Apr 2016 #91

31k is not much money Egnever Apr 2016 #92

Well, you didn't pay any attention in your last sea-lion op. Starry Messenger Apr 2016 #93

Do you know how back breaking sweeping, mopping and vacuuming is? notadmblnd Apr 2016 #95

having raised kids mercuryblues Apr 2016 #99

U have been here 5 days & add new anti labor posts every time I check this site Person 2713 Apr 2016 #100

if you can't make a point without gross distortions... eniwetok Apr 2016 #119

So, the businessman who can't stay in business without paying a living wage gratuitous Apr 2016 #121

Thank You!! PCPrincess Apr 2016 #191

+1 nt laundry_queen Apr 2016 #255

NO! If floors need sweeping, hire the out-of-work parents of the country sanatanadharma Apr 2016 #101

Yes, let's. Iggo Apr 2016 #103

I don't like Sanders at all, but I think a$15.00 an hour minimum wage tied to inflaton Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #104

Sounds good. It's not Chelsea-makes-a-speech wages... dchill Apr 2016 #105

Yes Bradical79 Apr 2016 #106

If the 16 year old is working 40 hours per week, 52 weeks per year, ZombieHorde Apr 2016 #108

It is very rare. In my state, a 16 year old would have to be legally emancipated to do that.... steve2470 Apr 2016 #122

Rent, house pymts, car pymts, car ins. health ins, is just as high for them too! ViseGrip Apr 2016 #110

PS. This is like reading a republican blog! Wage issues for 30 years ViseGrip Apr 2016 #113

I take it you're a McDonald's franchisee. rug Apr 2016 #117

LOL ROFL Kalidurga Apr 2016 #118

Sure, if it's a full time requirement for me to do business. haele Apr 2016 #124

Do you think teens should be paid less than adults for the same job? magical thyme Apr 2016 #126

If you have 2000 hours worth of floor sweeping, you need to pay a living wage to get it done. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2016 #127

Agreed - that's exactly why the OP's point is so ridiculous ky_dem Apr 2016 #133

16 year old kids have their hours limited in most states Warpy Apr 2016 #129

It's bullshit to have to wait 7 years for $15.00 Politicalboi Apr 2016 #130

Yeah, by then inflation will likely have chopped its purchasing power down so far Warpy Apr 2016 #158

Still concern trolling? Rex Apr 2016 #136

why is a 16 year sweeping floors 40 hours a week? La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #139

Because it fits the narrative this Op writer needs. trumad Apr 2016 #142

if a kid has dropped out of HS to sweep, he probably really needs a living wage though La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #147

Nice condescending attitude towards janitors Marrah_G Apr 2016 #143

Right you are, Marrah G! raging moderate Apr 2016 #150

I want to see one of these assholes pick produce for a day Marrah_G Apr 2016 #154

and I won't say what I think of yours eniwetok Apr 2016 #164

I am accusing you of doing exactly what you are doing Marrah_G Apr 2016 #166

Yes, because I have been one of them! Dear God, help me, it hurt so bad! raging moderate Apr 2016 #254

How else can they afford college/trade school? and a house down payment? and babies in their 20s? raging moderate Apr 2016 #145

How is this the employer's problem? eniwetok Apr 2016 #162

Easy. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2016 #283

Because, if something bad happens to you, you expect these people to care about you. raging moderate Apr 2016 #288

I honestly can't believe this is even an argument EmperorHasNoClothes Apr 2016 #146

Why, when President Obama has never advocated $15? (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #157

I'm advocating for more than OBAMA eniwetok Apr 2016 #163

Who called you a "right winger"? EmperorHasNoClothes Apr 2016 #193

16 year olds don't work 40 hours per week GummyBearz Apr 2016 #148

Low-wage Workers Are Older Than You Think HuckleB Apr 2016 #149

The kids who work at Denny's etc. who clean the diarrhea from the toilets tabasco Apr 2016 #151

That's more than I make teenagebambam Apr 2016 #152

When you get a base wage to go up nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #161

Wages will rise with the minimum wage. Marrah_G Apr 2016 #167

Gonna be a problem in Mississippi Bonx Apr 2016 #178

It's clear that a lot of people here My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #153

I liked starting at 15, expecting to get ten or a little more. My idea brewens Apr 2016 #155

That's the argument I get into with my father (a restraint owner) Victor_c3 Apr 2016 #168

Looks like this thread is a continuation of your other anti-$15 thread. Kingofalldems Apr 2016 #169

Yeah, and the right wing talking points just keep getting repeated Major Nikon Apr 2016 #198

So you don't believe in equal pay Jbradshaw120 Apr 2016 #170

Can't have it both ways eniwetok Apr 2016 #175

I agree that a liVing wage Jbradshaw120 Apr 2016 #200

Since companies haven't shown the ability to be fair or to phylny Apr 2016 #219

You're going to get a broken back carrying that much water for the Heritage Foundation Major Nikon Apr 2016 #171

Put up or shut up... eniwetok Apr 2016 #174

I'm sure carrying water for Heritage is tiring work Major Nikon Apr 2016 #187

so YOU can't prove your false accusation... eniwetok Apr 2016 #205

So let's see if I have this straight, because this is getting funny as hell Major Nikon Apr 2016 #216

What are they gonna do? Spend the money on goods and services? killbotfactory Apr 2016 #172

I'm looking forward to tomorrow's repetitive thread but I have a doctor's appointment Solly Mack Apr 2016 #173

if people actually read entire threads... eniwetok Apr 2016 #176

People are reading them. They don't agree with you and instead of accepting that, you rather Solly Mack Apr 2016 #182

"I love Bernie... but I love republican talking points even more" arcane1 Apr 2016 #177

Think Living Wage, Not Minimum Wage corbettkroehler Apr 2016 #179

Here are the OECD MWs above US eniwetok Apr 2016 #184

Raising the minimum has never resulted in katsy Apr 2016 #183

Spare us all your meaningless reassurances. eniwetok Apr 2016 #186

Nothing is going to keep corporations katsy Apr 2016 #192

are you incapable of reading comprehension? eniwetok Apr 2016 #209

OK... THIS ISSUE IS OVER eniwetok Apr 2016 #210

You made this a flame thread, please don't pretend you had any other intentions. Rex Apr 2016 #211

And if it does cost a few jobs? Downtown Hound Apr 2016 #194

If that 16 year old needs full time employment, it's for a damn good reason. Glassunion Apr 2016 #185

That was one of the best responses I've read during my 12 years on DU Downtown Hound Apr 2016 #188

It hit close to home... Glassunion Apr 2016 #292

excellent post! nt steve2470 Apr 2016 #190

OK... should a 18 year old burger flipper make $31.2k? eniwetok Apr 2016 #207

Why not? Downtown Hound Apr 2016 #226

Burger flipper My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #279

Nobody's nitpicking, your choice of a 16 year old made it sound like you were defending the Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2016 #284

I'm not nitpicking shit. Go back to Post#185, and superimpose 18 on top of every instance of 16. Glassunion Apr 2016 #296

In addition, custodial work goes beyond sweeping and emptying. LakeVermilion Apr 2016 #276

$15 an hour won't even rent you an apartment where I live Downtown Hound Apr 2016 #189

But it will where I live Travis_0004 Apr 2016 #208

So, residents of certain areas of the country should be paid less than others for the same work? hatrack Apr 2016 #197

it already happens... and it ain't my fault eniwetok Apr 2016 #202

Stop Paying CEOs OkSustainAg Apr 2016 #204

What do you consider a fair wage for YOUR work? hobbit709 Apr 2016 #212

No man is an island...higher wages can help family members too. lostnfound Apr 2016 #213

$15 an hour was a lot of money 30 years ago, not any more. The_Casual_Observer Apr 2016 #214

I find it amazing that folks that have under 300 post here on DU Hotler Apr 2016 #217

People who support President Obama's position on the minimum wage are now "trolls"? (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #225

Has Obama argued AGAINST raising the MW to $15? Major Nikon Apr 2016 #232

He supports $12 by 2020: Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #235

I didn't ask you what he supported. I asked you what he was against. Major Nikon Apr 2016 #237

Ah, so he might secretly be in favor of $15, Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #239

Or he might be secretly against it Major Nikon Apr 2016 #242

Well.... arguing for $12 would be construed by many as arguing against $15. Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #245

I don't think that many find basic logic that difficult Major Nikon Apr 2016 #247

Very few 16 year olds work 40 hours a week and you damn well know it. ohnoyoudidnt Apr 2016 #220

This is what, the third or fourth thread you've started with a 'bait' premise? Paging MIRT. n/t X_Digger Apr 2016 #221

This person has been here a week nichomachus Apr 2016 #230

absolutely quaker bill Apr 2016 #228

Let's pay everybody $11 an hour nichomachus Apr 2016 #229

Let's look at WV Algernon Moncrieff Apr 2016 #234

If we can pay CEO's $100 million a year... True Earthling Apr 2016 #243

Two wrongs don't make a right Albertoo Apr 2016 #252

But the second "wrong" is more right Populist_Prole Apr 2016 #271

It's a bit more complicated, isn't it? Albertoo Apr 2016 #318

If a 16-year-old is working full time gollygee Apr 2016 #244

16 year olds aren't permitted to work 40 hours a week bhikkhu Apr 2016 #251

They could if the dropped out of school TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #258

Honestly the best way to handle this is a universal basic income. MillennialDem Apr 2016 #260

The problem I see with raising the MW to $15 just means that the price of things will increase AgadorSparticus Apr 2016 #263

Some, sure, but not 107% Recursion Apr 2016 #266

How do you determine that prices will go up but that it will only affect the middle class? AgadorSparticus Apr 2016 #272

Because, again, labor is only a portion of business costs Recursion Apr 2016 #275

That's not true. It depends on the industry. Some industries have a much higher labor cost. AgadorSparticus Apr 2016 #277

And in none of them is labor higher than 40% or so Recursion Apr 2016 #285

What the hell restaurant or food industry has labor costs of 40 to 60%?? Glassunion Apr 2016 #298

I looked at a bunch of sites. I think it was the department of labor. I am trying to find it. AgadorSparticus Apr 2016 #299

I had not accounted for kitchen staff in the average retaurant. My bad. Glassunion Apr 2016 #308

The 40-60% is in the other article I listed. They got those # from dept. of labor. AgadorSparticus Apr 2016 #311

I read both articles and neither one stated labor costs at 40 to 60% Glassunion Apr 2016 #312

Here, I copied and pasted from that article. AgadorSparticus Apr 2016 #314

That is not the percentage of labor costs for the business. Glassunion Apr 2016 #315

But then, wouldn't that apply to ANYbody's increase in pay? Populist_Prole Apr 2016 #270

I don't think they give a rats ass about driving the economy. That's just AgadorSparticus Apr 2016 #273

the price of things has been increasing anyway. Cobalt Violet Apr 2016 #287

Inflation is always occuring. The question is at what rate? AgadorSparticus Apr 2016 #302

Can you kindly cite historical evidence of price hikes as result of pay raises? tenderfoot Apr 2016 #300

As I posted upstream, the article I found cited the department of labor & statistics. Nt AgadorSparticus Apr 2016 #301

and???? tenderfoot Apr 2016 #303

I wasn't trying to prove the price hikes. I proved where I got my numbers. AgadorSparticus Apr 2016 #305

the hallmark of a repuke Skittles Apr 2016 #264

If a 16 year old has to work 40 hours a week, yeah, he or she should make that much Recursion Apr 2016 #265

+1 JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #289

It's weird that this is even a question, you know? Recursion Apr 2016 #290

WHAT IS THE POINT OF HIRING CHILDREN, IF WE CANT PAY THEM LESS? Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #320

Sounds fair to me rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #286

Do you do anything worth $15 an hour? Octafish Apr 2016 #291

Look at the handle eniwetok= Any We Took HOPNOSH Apr 2016 #316

Corporate internet trolls need to have their wages cut! Call Congress right fucking now! nt Zorra Apr 2016 #297

When you keep the minimum wage artificially low for so many years Buzz cook Apr 2016 #309

Hey, nice hat! Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #317

If a 16 yr old works 40 hrs a wk, 52 wks a year, yes, they should be paid that. uppityperson Apr 2016 #319