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173. Like the right wing embraces 'Born in the USA' because they are idiots, not because the song sukcs.

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:25 PM

Apr 2016

Same thing. And I never trust anyone who says 'yup' because they are all savagely bigoted right wingers. It defines them.

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I'm sorry, but Merle Haggard was a right-wing reactionary unAmerican asshole [View all] jpak Apr 2016 OP

You got the wrong Merle Haggard... ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #1

I think Haggard was a mix of things TM99 Apr 2016 #3

He was an independent thinker for sure ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #6

He repudiated a lot of what he wrote about in the 60's and 70's Major Nikon Apr 2016 #13

Yeah, he cashed in both ways jpak Apr 2016 #16

Then so did Joan Baez when she covered his songs Major Nikon Apr 2016 #18

Baez sold out jpak Apr 2016 #20

Good luck getting anyone to buy that Major Nikon Apr 2016 #23

He did jpak Apr 2016 #25

Well you certainly make a convincing argument Major Nikon Apr 2016 #27

Tricky Dick concurs jpak Apr 2016 #41

Nobody concurs with you Major Nikon Apr 2016 #98

This OP reminds me: Never underestimate the power of a fart joke... Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #112

Merle Haggard thought gun nuts were assholes jpak Apr 2016 #137

Don't think kcdoug1 Apr 2016 #155

Good to know. TM99 Apr 2016 #29

He also claimed the Okie from Muskogie was satire...... yellowcanine Apr 2016 #67

Yeah, I heard that too when I moved to Nashville in '79..... socialist_n_TN Apr 2016 #71

A free beer for you whenever in Austin. Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #113

Why thank you!........ socialist_n_TN Apr 2016 #162

I never understood why he'd write this song. skip fox Apr 2016 #124

These bands certainly saw it as satire, as well. HuckleB Apr 2016 #128

And it's really funny as satire. skip fox Apr 2016 #144

It was not presented as satire in 1969 jpak Apr 2016 #160

Keep ignoring the full story, so ... HuckleB Apr 2016 #164

What press release from Haggart or from Billboard in 1969 defined it as jpak Apr 2016 #167

Derp. HuckleB Apr 2016 #179

Okie from Muskogee was RW screed jpak Apr 2016 #180

Derp. HuckleB Apr 2016 #183

This is an over-simplification that is not correct. djg21 Apr 2016 #196

Yes, he was. TM99 Apr 2016 #2

He became a lot better person in his later years. redstateblues Apr 2016 #4

Holy crap! El Supremo Apr 2016 #5

I was around when 'Okie From Muskogee' was a hit jpak Apr 2016 #9

Long before you. El Supremo Apr 2016 #12

No it was not jpak Apr 2016 #15

You weren't listening, then. 6000eliot Apr 2016 #50

Everyone I know from My Generation knows exactly what it was about jpak Apr 2016 #56

Well, then. You and everyone you know must obviously be right. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2016 #79

lol. Amimnoch Apr 2016 #92

Wrong. I used the song in a media education seminar to show how content could be... Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #115

RW gun nuts are easily confused by pretty things jpak Apr 2016 #161

Prohibitionists offer suffer from Gunneria. Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #193

Wait a minute. I'm from this generation (born in 1946) and although skip fox Apr 2016 #127

I'm with you on this one, Elway. madinmaryland Apr 2016 #28

I thought it was satire at the time and Haggard claimed that it was. yellowcanine Apr 2016 #68

Hmm...an anti-drug, pro-war screed...well, let's take a look: PatrickforO Apr 2016 #33

There is so much more to his catalog than this. alarimer Apr 2016 #86

I was rpannier Apr 2016 #168

We are well on our way to a Laura Braniganesque evening ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #10

you have no clue. spanone Apr 2016 #7

I'm sorry - that one song defined him jpak Apr 2016 #24

That's "Pancho and Lefty" you're thinking of. (nt) Recursion Apr 2016 #26

He didn't write Pancho & Lefty djg21 Apr 2016 #37

Ouch jpak Apr 2016 #45

What "ouch"? I love Townes Recursion Apr 2016 #48

Best covers of Pancho & Lefty djg21 Apr 2016 #194

And Springsteen didn't write "Jersey Girl" (though he did write "Because the Night") Recursion Apr 2016 #47

Tom Waits is one of my heros. djg21 Apr 2016 #195

like i said, you have no clue. but that's your right! spanone Apr 2016 #30

"Mama Tried." "Silver Wings." HuckleB Apr 2016 #123

I agree with you. oneshooter Apr 2016 #188

Can't stand him yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #8

Hurrah. You win grave pisser of the day AngryAmish Apr 2016 #19

What does that mean? yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #21

What exactly is wrong with being a hillbilly? Separation Apr 2016 #83

+1,000 ... 000 HuckleB Apr 2016 #165

You are so, so very wrong. alarimer Apr 2016 #85

Let us agree to disagree yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #97

Much country is cry in you beer music, at least was. alfredo Apr 2016 #135

Even Jones thought that was a terrible song... for once he was correct. yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #147

your lack of exposure is showing...however, to quote Buck Owens.. islandmkl Apr 2016 #166

right yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #169

before you continue, i suggest you at least look up the lyrics so you don't continue to post islandmkl Apr 2016 #172

I'm not a country music fan, but I understand its appeal. Fan loyalty is so important. alfredo Apr 2016 #177

At some point you will learn not to define your artistic tastes by what you hate. Maedhros Apr 2016 #132

At times he was mattvermont Apr 2016 #11

He was the reason I rejected country music jpak Apr 2016 #14

Wow. Such narrow-minded bullshit alarimer Apr 2016 #87

Racist? Straw Man Apr 2016 #93

Sometimes I think DU is having a contest pintobean Apr 2016 #17

Word... ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #22

+1 Hekate Apr 2016 #34

Well said. Brickbat Apr 2016 #102

and wut wuz the most Progressive lyric from 'Okie From Muskogee' jpak Apr 2016 #170

You win. pintobean Apr 2016 #187

Just a reminder... jpak Apr 2016 #31

Love it. Always did pintobean Apr 2016 #35

ack jpak Apr 2016 #39

It's just a song. pintobean Apr 2016 #42

Nope - back in the day it was a powerful political statement jpak Apr 2016 #43

Grateful Dead with the Beach Boys April 27th, 1971 pintobean Apr 2016 #54

Irony is lost on the....ahem jpak Apr 2016 #58

No, they got it. pintobean Apr 2016 #59

Yeah that was the day the GD and BB renounced drugs, long hair, Roman Sandals, beads jpak Apr 2016 #60

So is 'Dixie' - speaking of grudges... jpak Apr 2016 #96

Dixie been getting any airplay? pintobean Apr 2016 #99

It got played - with enthusiasm - at many SEC football games jpak Apr 2016 #141

I can't remember where or when Warpy Apr 2016 #57

And I am just so sure he would give a shit at what you think of him. leftofcool Apr 2016 #32

Whoopty-fukin-do... Inkfreak Apr 2016 #36

You should read his autobiography. Punkingal Apr 2016 #38

Please proceed. Tell us more aikoaiko Apr 2016 #40

Lee Atwater proceeds from this song jpak Apr 2016 #44

The horror. The horror. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #46

back in the day it was a powerful anti-hippie statement jpak Apr 2016 #52

I guess one had to be there. Songs don't scare me. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #63

I was there and thought it was satire. Still do. yellowcanine Apr 2016 #69

That wasn't what did it! It was this movie... snooper2 Apr 2016 #110

99.9% of country singers, no matter how talented, are simply playing to their audience ... LannyDeVaney Apr 2016 #49

I listen to soma fm's "Boot Liquor" every now and then. kentauros Apr 2016 #72

Are you familiar with "Dewberry Jam Community Radio"? FrodosPet Apr 2016 #91

He was a complicated man. As are most of us. His talent was singular. Stinky The Clown Apr 2016 #51

Oh, what the hell, this thread needs more cowbell , , , . rug Apr 2016 #53

Merle!!!! jpak Apr 2016 #55

That's some of the worst crap on the planet rockfordfile Apr 2016 #178

I don't care what his politics were he was a great talent. doc03 Apr 2016 #61

.that^ X100 840high Apr 2016 #62

Actually, I did stop watching Clint Eastwood movies Trajan Apr 2016 #139

Man, you missed a great line there ballabosh Apr 2016 #184

I never really watched any of the idiot's movies. rockfordfile Apr 2016 #176

Lyrics to his anti-Bush admin. song, "America First" (2005) VOX Apr 2016 #64

Thanks. Used to play that on the juke at the Horseshoe. Didn't get the flak Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #116

I bet OP is an middle class urbanite who thinks all us rural people are "dumb hicks", too. Odin2005 Apr 2016 #65

And everybody in the south is a racist redneck. alarimer Apr 2016 #88

LOL jpak Apr 2016 #101

I bet you are wrong - and for the record I do not like the following country "artists" jpak Apr 2016 #100

It can be difficult for an irrational mind to separate the art from the artist. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #103

agree completely Angel Martin Apr 2016 #107

please don't start a statement with "I'm sorry" when you really aren't. Javaman Apr 2016 #66

Of course, we can figure that out kentauros Apr 2016 #73

It's one of the most annoying ways to start a sentence. Ever. Inkfreak Apr 2016 #142

You're wrong. SixString Apr 2016 #70

Merle EVOLVED, like so many others we're 'splained to about. Zorra Apr 2016 #74

I think you're right. Good article here... Duppers Apr 2016 #150

1700 views and no recs. America has more than one A-h L. Coyote Apr 2016 #75

It got one jpak Apr 2016 #143

You obviously know nothing hobbit709 Apr 2016 #76

Not big a fan, saw him open for Bob Dylan once. But, never saw him with a confederate flag. Hoyt Apr 2016 #77

That one song defines him..." islandmkl Apr 2016 #78

LOL BellaLuna Apr 2016 #80

pretty funny that you get all 'anti-hippie' about Merle... islandmkl Apr 2016 #81

It's all going to pot! Let's hope if a song can incite something ghostsinthemachine Apr 2016 #82

The fact that Merle and Willie were such good friends ought to tell anyone all they need to know. HuckleB Apr 2016 #130

SSDD DustyJoe Apr 2016 #84

I worked on a couple of his shows waaaay back in the day. In all my years as a 'crew chick' he underahedgerow Apr 2016 #89

From one satire fan to another! FrodosPet Apr 2016 #90

Am i the only one who dislikes, "I'm sorry, but" as an opener? scioto99 Apr 2016 #94

Wut YoungDemCA Apr 2016 #95

Mmmmkay. 'Splain this. KamaAina Apr 2016 #104

And this. KamaAina Apr 2016 #105

+1,000,000 ... 000 HuckleB Apr 2016 #131

I can't hate him just because I disagreed with SOME of his views. hollowdweller Apr 2016 #106

I admit to liking some of Ted Nugent's tunes. Throd Apr 2016 #108

Merle Haggard is not Ted Nugent. HuckleB Apr 2016 #140

Not sayin' he is. Throd Apr 2016 #151

Ted "racist" Nugent's music is terrible. Not to mention the guy is a pos. rockfordfile Apr 2016 #175

Well, he's dead now. hamsterjill Apr 2016 #109

You know, there's a continuum. PatrickforO Apr 2016 #111

"I was dumb as a rock when I wrote 'Okie From Muskogee,'" Mr. Haggard told the Americana napkinz Apr 2016 #114

The guy was a great human, acknowledged his own foibles. HuckleB Apr 2016 #126

exactly! napkinz Apr 2016 #129

You must remember that no one give a damn what you care about, TheManInTheMac Apr 2016 #117

His song? TransitJohn Apr 2016 #118

I'd go with this one, myself. HuckleB Apr 2016 #125

I'm sorry, but you have no clue. bluedigger Apr 2016 #119

Did you know he was a Democrat? probably should have done some research book_worm Apr 2016 #120

Hope you have a big roll of Charmin! whistler162 Apr 2016 #121

So the Grateful Dead, Beach Boys, Phil Ochs, String Cheese Incident and The Melvins... HuckleB Apr 2016 #122

Wow don't tell Willy Nelson that, he was a close friend of Merle. B Calm Apr 2016 #133

wow, your thread got ONE REC ... your own! napkinz Apr 2016 #134

Hooray! jpak Apr 2016 #182

aw, bless your heart! fishwax Apr 2016 #136

and yours too jpak Apr 2016 #138

I believe fishwax is taking a shot at you KamaAina Apr 2016 #145

I know that - it was a rebuttal jpak Apr 2016 #148

Merle's target audience circa 1969 jpak Apr 2016 #146

your hatred is noted. spanone Apr 2016 #149

How so? jpak Apr 2016 #153

He did evolve. Read this... Duppers Apr 2016 #152

So did George Wallace - but that does not excuse either of them jpak Apr 2016 #154

So, do you like Merle or not? Stop beating about the bush. kwassa Apr 2016 #156

Money grubbing yes - but politically no jpak Apr 2016 #159

People on the right and the left cross over as fans regardless... dubyadiprecession Apr 2016 #157

That song was funny... Mike Nelson Apr 2016 #158

becuz it justified and exposed everything that the Silent Majority stood for jpak Apr 2016 #163

Like the right wing embraces 'Born in the USA' because they are idiots, not because the song sukcs. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #173

That is why Christie is so in Luv with Springsteen jpak Apr 2016 #174

the only real question on this idiot post (I did not say idiot's) is trying to figure out... islandmkl Apr 2016 #171

please post and justify the lyrics of Okie from Muskogee jpak Apr 2016 #181

you've seen them above...and i have no need to justify anything concerning another person's islandmkl Apr 2016 #185

My play list would not include MG or any other RW douchebaggery jpak Apr 2016 #186

I've been listening to a Merle Haggard retrospective on the radio tonight cemaphonic Apr 2016 #189

+1. nt bemildred Apr 2016 #190

Like most people (and artists)... sendero Apr 2016 #191

Pretty pitiful when you rec your own OP after 191 replies and 0 recs hobbit709 Apr 2016 #192

My dad was an actual Okie from Muskogee tularetom Apr 2016 #197