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In reply to the discussion: Thinking that the WI election was "rigged" sets the stage for losing. [View all]snot
(11,623 posts)2. I appreciate this post. It would help, however,
if I could see more facts about the percentage of voting or tabulation machines that were electronic, who owned and/or had access to them, whether election monitors were focussed on the hazards of electronic voting/tabulation, and the nature of the discrepancies between the exit polls and the reported voting results.
I do believe electronic fraud has occurred in elections past, and by now there've been multiple opportunities to practice making it look plausible; and there was a lot at stake in this election.
I realize I may be seeing so little on the subject 'cuz the evidence just isn't there; but I'd feel a lot better if I knew the monitors were looking for it and knew what to look for.
(See. e.g., this March 5 item:
US E-Voting System Cracked in Less than 48 Hours
Researchers at the University of Michigan have reported that . . . . "Within 48 hours of the system going live, we had gained near complete control of the election server", the researchers wrote in a paper that has now been released. "We successfully changed every vote and revealed almost every secret ballot." The hack was only discovered after about two business days and most likely only because the intruders left a visible trail on purpose.
More at http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/US-e-voting-system-cracked-in-less-than-48-hours-1463881.html .
See also http://www.democraticunderground.com/125142744 . And if you don't know who Kathy Nickolaus is, see http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002767805 .)
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Thinking that the WI election was "rigged" sets the stage for losing. [View all]
MineralMan
Jun 2012
OP
because a lot of DUers can't comprehend the fact that there are people who believe differently
dionysus
Jun 2012
#4
I agree with you. That was the point I tried to make that we need to continue to fight in each
truckin
Jun 2012
#39
That is true, some believe every election that doesn't go our way is rigged. However,
truckin
Jun 2012
#56
People believe it was stolen because there's no reason to trust the system.
freedom fighter jh
Jun 2012
#33
I have raised the issue generally, many times, before it pertained to any particular election.
freedom fighter jh
Jun 2012
#55
Bullcrap. We have seen mountains of evidence of Republican cheating for years and years.
rhett o rick
Jun 2012
#111
LOL. I am saying that Repukes cheat at every turn and you call me a Republican?
rhett o rick
Jun 2012
#114
I will say it again very slow. There is a ton of evidence that repukes cheat.
rhett o rick
Jun 2012
#120
So then the choice is between unreliable results and an unmanageable situation?
freedom fighter jh
Jun 2012
#76
True in this particular instance, but I was considering the larger impact
The Velveteen Ocelot
Jun 2012
#19
You are probably right that Walker won fair and square but would you agree that
truckin
Jun 2012
#37
A much better explanation than anything else I've heard. It amazes me that there is *no* theft when
SlimJimmy
Jun 2012
#47
Walker got about 38% of union housholds. Add to that fact that about 60% said they
SlimJimmy
Jun 2012
#88
That makes absolutely no sense, whatsoever. It's not that difficult to understand.
shcrane71
Jun 2012
#90
In para. 3, photo ID and registering at the polls have nothing to do with election fraud
AllyCat
Jun 2012
#52
Voters were deluged by media that re-inforced the idea the recall was illegit. n/t
EFerrari
Jun 2012
#72
NBC called it while people were still voting. NYT's called it prior to polls closing.
shcrane71
Jun 2012
#78
+1. I'm disgusted to see so many people who are ok with this election & so invested in
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#104
"Fixing an election to produce the results that actually happened would be almost impossible"
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2012
#69
There seem to be an awful lot of threads encouraging us to conform and cooperate.
Prometheus Bound
Jun 2012
#123
yeah, forget about any tools citizens have outside the regular rigged elections.
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#106
Of course you keep fighting. But you also acknowledge that there are major problems
truckin
Jun 2012
#124