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eniwetok

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11. heaven forbid
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:33 AM
Apr 2016

Leaving aside your claim is bull... that there is no ONE Dem position on raising the national MW... it ranges from Obama's $10.10 to free lunchers who want $22... and that I've supported a MW higher than Obama as well as state/city efforts to go higher, are you suggesting that Dems go though life guided by vague, feel good, phrases without bothering to flesh out what they mean? For example, just what DOES it mean to "pay one's fair share" in taxes? Do you think you're going to just convince an independent or right winger using a cute phrase without some convincing moral basis for whatever tax rate you come up with? After all, it has to compete with the narrative the right wing has crafted over the past century.

Or perhaps you're referring to liberal Dems utterly deluding themselves that they support "democracy" when they actually support an a mathematically verifiable antidemocratic system and refuse to confront their own cognitive dissonance?

Sorry, that's just Orwellian. If I see such intellectually mushiness and hypocrisy... I have to say something... especially if I think Dems are making strategic blunders in refusing to reform an antidemocratic system that works against their own agenda... or refusing to develop a concerted strategy to roll back corporate power.

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And, of course, if doing so helps delay addressing the problems..... daleanime Apr 2016 #1
you think Christmas moonbabygo Apr 2016 #2
don't want to get sidetracked... but since you asked eniwetok Apr 2016 #4
Me too. I LOVE that moment when I hear the first Christmas song of the year on the radio, Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #13
"Prosecute the bankers," "Christian values," "Boots on the ground" Oneironaut Apr 2016 #3
Christian Values? eniwetok Apr 2016 #5
This is what, the fifth thread you've started attacking democrats in one form or fashion? X_Digger Apr 2016 #6
pray tell... WHERE'S THIS ATTACK? eniwetok Apr 2016 #14
Framing the Debate OhioBlue Apr 2016 #7
Read it back in 04 eniwetok Apr 2016 #12
I think you mean "pro-LIFE" in your first sentence. nt tblue37 Apr 2016 #8
So we're criticizing Dem positions instead of advocating again? tkmorris Apr 2016 #9
heaven forbid eniwetok Apr 2016 #11
Yep, words are tricky, all right. nt bemildred Apr 2016 #10
They really are, aren't they? nt Zorra Apr 2016 #16
Branding is an efficient and effective method of advertising a message. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #15
sure branding is important eniwetok Apr 2016 #19
It's a wonder you can even think at all. Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #17
PKB? eniwetok Apr 2016 #18
I leave the substance-free narrative to you. Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #20
I can see where the ignore feature can be useful eniwetok Apr 2016 #21
Lol...Your oblivious to the amount of irony you deliver. Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #22
not going to get in the gutter... eniwetok Apr 2016 #23
The irony is steep with this one. Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #24
Republicans say pro-LIFE. They would never say CHOICE WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #25
I can remember to the days when the so called pro life movement made the change. PatrickforO Apr 2016 #26
... handmade34 Apr 2016 #27
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