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seafan

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87. Bin Laden: “Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple: ....."
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:00 AM
Apr 2016

"....Because you attacked us and continue to attack us.”


Why We’re Never Told Why We’re Attacked, April 9, 2016

When Western media discusses terrorism against the West, the motive is almost always left out, even when the terrorists state they are avenging longstanding Western violence in the Muslim world...


To explain why these attacks happen is not to condone or justify terrorist outrages against innocent civilians. It is simply a responsibility of journalism, especially when the “why” is no mystery. It was fully explained by Mohammad Sidique Khan, one of the four London suicide bombers. Though speaking for only a tiny fraction of Muslims, he said in a videotaped recording before the attack:

“Your democratically-elected governments continuously perpetuate atrocities against my people all over the world. And your support of them makes you directly responsible, just as I am directly responsible for protecting and avenging my Muslim brothers and sisters. Until we feel security you will be our targets and until you stop the bombing, gassing, imprisonment and torture of my people we will not stop this fight. We are at war and I am a soldier. Now you too will taste the reality of this situation.”

The Islamic State published the following reason for carrying out last November’s Paris attacks:

“Let France and all nations following its path know that they will continue to be at the top of the target list for the Islamic State and that the scent of death will not leave their nostrils as long as they partake part in the crusader campaign … and boast about their war against Islam in France, and their strikes against Muslims in the lands of the Caliphate with their jets.”


Ignoring such clear statements of intent, we are instead served bromides by the likes of State Department spokesman Mark Toner about the Brussels bombings, saying it is impossible “to get into the minds of those who carry out these attacks.”

Mind reading isn’t required, however. The Islamic State explicitly told us in a press statement why it did the Brussels attacks: “We promise black days for all crusader nations allied in their war against the Islamic State, in response to their aggressions against it.”

Yet, still struggling to explain why it happened, Toner said, “I think it reflects more of an effort to inflict on who they see as Western or Westerners … fear that they can carry out these kinds of attacks and to attempt to lash out.”

Toner ascribed the motive to a state of mind: “I don’t know if this is about establishing a caliphate beyond the territorial gains that they’ve tried to make in Iraq and Syria, but it’s another aspect of Daesh’s kind of warped ideology that they’re carrying out these attacks on Europe and elsewhere if they can. … Whether it’s the hopes or the dreams or the aspirations of a certain people never justifies violence.”

After 9/11, President George W. Bush infamously said the U.S. was attacked because “they hate our freedoms.” It’s a perfect example of a Western view that ascribes motives to Easterners without allowing them to speak for themselves or taking them seriously when they do.

Explaining his motive behind 9/11, Osama bin Laden, in his Letter to America, expressed anger about U.S. troops stationed on Saudi soil. Bin Laden asked: “Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple: Because you attacked us and continue to attack us.” (Today the U.S. has dozens of bases in seven countries in the region.)

So why won’t Western officials and corporate media take the jihadists’ statements of intent at face value? Why won’t they really tell us why we are attacked?

It seems to be an effort to cover up a long and ever more intense history of Western military and political intervention in the Middle East and the violent reactions it provokes, reactions that put innocent Western lives at risk. Indirect Western culpability in these terrorist acts is routinely suppressed, let alone evidence of direct Western involvement with terrorism.

Some government officials and journalists might delude themselves into believing that Western intervention in the Middle East is an attempt to protect civilians and spread democracy to the region, instead of bringing chaos and death to further the West’s strategic and economic aims. Other officials must know better.



A few might know the mostly hidden history of duplicitous and often reckless Western actions in the Middle East. It is hidden only to most Westerners, however. So it is worth looking in considerable detail at this appalling record of interference in the lives of millions of Muslims to appreciate the full weight it exerts on the region. It can help explain anti-Western anger that spurs a few radicals to commit atrocities in the West.
French diplomat Francois George-Picot, who along with British colonial officer Mark Sykes drew lines across a Middle East map of the Ottoman Empire after World War I, carving out states with boundaries that are nearly the same as they are today.

French diplomat Francois George-Picot, who along with British colonial officer Mark Sykes drew lines across a Middle East map of the Ottoman Empire after World War I, carving out states with boundaries that are nearly the same as they are today.

The history is an unbroken string of interventions from the end of the First World War until today. It began ....



There seems to be an agenda by those who make it their business, never to explain the "why" to Americans.

It is very clear.


And today, the man who declared that 'they hate us for our freedoms', still walks free.




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Thank you VERY MUCH, seaman... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #1
the truth shall set us free! n/t wildbilln864 Apr 2016 #2
Indeed it shall. . . merrifield Apr 2016 #67
I might actually record 60 Minutes tonight just for this. lpbk2713 Apr 2016 #3
Set the time to end recording late if you really want to see it. Cassiopeia Apr 2016 #10
Thanks lpbk2713 Apr 2016 #18
Great programming strategy by CBS... alp227 Apr 2016 #42
set the dvr! thx! Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #4
John Gold interview with Sen. Graham tk2kewl Apr 2016 #5
Will Come Back To This... Thanks For Posting! ChiciB1 Apr 2016 #57
The family fled about 10 days before September 11 AlbertCat Apr 2016 #6
k and r AxionExcel Apr 2016 #7
Definitely a step in the right direction, even if we're still beating around the BUSH. forest444 Apr 2016 #8
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K & R... dhill926 Apr 2016 #11
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Suddenly what would be written-off as "CT" becomes public knowledge 99th_Monkey Apr 2016 #13
I was just thinking about this issue today. Thanks for the update. kairos12 Apr 2016 #14
One of the few politicians that can truly be called a public servant Blasphemer Apr 2016 #15
Just imagine how speed-of-light-quick the Gabi Hayes Apr 2016 #109
PANAMA elicits a big drip of information in order to take over the water cooler. eom Festivito Apr 2016 #16
Thank you DesertRat Apr 2016 #17
please update with a link LittleGirl Apr 2016 #19
But but oil and money and power shadowmayor Apr 2016 #20
Our dependence on oil keeps us lastone Apr 2016 #21
Bush (R) and Bin Laden (R) clans thick as thieves AxionExcel Apr 2016 #30
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #22
You are most welcome, Uncle Joe. seafan Apr 2016 #102
Yes we do, seafan. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #105
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Kick! JudyM Apr 2016 #24
Senator Bob Graham Iwillnevergiveup Apr 2016 #25
THIRD TIME I'VE Said It In This Post... ChiciB1 Apr 2016 #58
knr snagglepuss Apr 2016 #26
I wonder what our presidential candidates positions are on releasing this report. Purveyor Apr 2016 #27
But, but, Saudi Arabia is our ally. chapdrum Apr 2016 #28
...and, there's Bandar Bush!!! They were certainly the Bush's allies!!! Funny how that works. FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #107
I can never forget one comment. silverweb Apr 2016 #29
I don't think that waas merely a quote from one of the PNAC members 90-percent Apr 2016 #31
I don't doubt it for a minute. silverweb Apr 2016 #32
quote and link to source nationalize the fed Apr 2016 #44
Thank you. silverweb Apr 2016 #56
If anyone of the other Bushistas has said that Rove quote I'd actually be less pissed about it. Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2016 #64
And that, right there in those two quotes 2naSalit Apr 2016 #74
And does it bother anyone at all CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #79
Thank you for saying this. bjo59 Apr 2016 #80
The Democratic Party is turning into NJCher Apr 2016 #91
I agree about what is happening to the Democratic party CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #93
And you shall know them by their actions and by the company that they keep. Raster Apr 2016 #92
^2 quotes that haunted us for 16 years and will continue to do so for at least the next 25 years. Major Hogwash Apr 2016 #83
I thought Ron Suskind said that The Blue Flower Apr 2016 #90
You have great memory, The Blue Flower. seafan Apr 2016 #99
That PNAC document formed the basis for the offical National Security Strategy of the USA Martin Eden Apr 2016 #97
Yeppers. KamaAina Apr 2016 #104
I remember that very clearly as well. WHEN CRABS ROAR Apr 2016 #33
It sure did! silverweb Apr 2016 #37
Exactly. There was a conspiracy and it is ongoing. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #59
There's a revolution coming. WHEN CRABS ROAR Apr 2016 #61
They could have run a scam on us for a hundreds years but they got too greedy. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #63
The news media, on the very day of the attacks, were describing it as being like a new Pearl Harbor ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2016 #60
I agree! Republicans and Democrats are complicit. Obama appointed Eric Holder and they both Dustlawyer Apr 2016 #88
The plans were drawn before that. Gulf War I was supposed to initiate the invasion. Ford_Prefect Apr 2016 #35
Thanks for fleshing that out. silverweb Apr 2016 #36
The PNAC web site stayed up for quite a while after 9-11; I remember ... eppur_se_muova Apr 2016 #39
I remember that map! silverweb Apr 2016 #40
Um, THREE passenger planes ? Then lists all four crash sites ... nt eppur_se_muova Apr 2016 #34
. AxionExcel Apr 2016 #38
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Interesting how this article refers to Graham as governor, alp227 Apr 2016 #43
Senator Graham should consider running for Florida governor again in 2018. seafan Apr 2016 #100
I supported Bob in 2004 when he ran for President ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2016 #46
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Great but be very careful Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2016 #48
Kick n/t malaise Apr 2016 #49
Yet another Simonize job by Corporate Broadcasting System Fritz Walter Apr 2016 #50
He's able to go on 60 Minutes only because Jebbie's out of the race Warpy Apr 2016 #51
The flight schools disappeared?? Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2016 #65
No shit Warpy Apr 2016 #66
At least one flight school had reported suspicion Schema Thing Apr 2016 #73
Here's some research nationalize the fed Apr 2016 #76
We, the people, are sick of the Bushes. Major Hogwash Apr 2016 #69
If he's what emerges from a brokered convention with blood on the floor Warpy Apr 2016 #71
It'll be a slaughterhouse! Major Hogwash Apr 2016 #75
It will be Paul Ryan. Mark my words. nm rhett o rick Apr 2016 #78
Hey, old timer. You probably remember this old thread from "that time": seafan Apr 2016 #72
I don't recall that particular thread Warpy Apr 2016 #77
Post 12 at your link sources the "We got lucky" line I mentioned above. Thanks. Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2016 #81
Post 12: seafan Apr 2016 #103
Kick. Quite interesting, thanks. appalachiablue Apr 2016 #52
It's about time mehrrh Apr 2016 #53
Recording it mehrrh Apr 2016 #54
BOB GRAHAM Talking ISN'T Something Anyone Should Ignore! ChiciB1 Apr 2016 #55
"He warned his colleagues. Most ignored him." One is running for Prez in the Dem Party. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #62
Would that be the one proud of selling billions of arms/planes to Saudi Arabia? Roland99 Apr 2016 #68
And taking millions in "charity" from the Saudis. Scuba Apr 2016 #84
the saudi funding was brought up and bushco promptly buried it. allan01 Apr 2016 #70
Report on 60 minutes was more than I heard before Justice Apr 2016 #82
Far more important than the UFOs that Hillary wants to get to the bottom of jfern Apr 2016 #85
they hijacked 4 planes, not 3 treestar Apr 2016 #86
Bin Laden: “Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple: ....." seafan Apr 2016 #87
bin Laden, not the Saudi government treestar Apr 2016 #98
Graham says the report would prove the 911 pilots had high-ranking Saudi officials' support. seafan Apr 2016 #101
Indeed he did AxionExcel Apr 2016 #106
Some will do anything for the oil. Octafish Apr 2016 #108
Yes, most all of it has been done For Oil and Empire. Inseparable. seafan Apr 2016 #110
Kick Mira Apr 2016 #89
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After 911 felix_numinous Apr 2016 #95
Shared ideology houston16revival Apr 2016 #96
Bob Graham gets call from White House; word that declassification of secret 9/11 documents underway seafan Apr 2016 #111
Thanks for the update! FailureToCommunicate Apr 2016 #112
this is getting about as much media traction as Gabi Hayes Apr 2016 #113
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