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eridani

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Thu Apr 14, 2016, 05:07 AM Apr 2016

News About Obamacare Has Been Bad Lately. How Bad? [View all]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/14/upshot/news-about-obamacare-has-been-bad-lately-how-bad.html

Ever since passage of the Affordable Care Act, a fierce debate has been waged over whether the law would work as advertised. While advocates promised that the design of new insurance markets would transform the way consumers buy health insurance, critics warned that the new market would never succeed. Reed Abelson and Margot Sanger-Katz have had front-row seats to the debate, and the two reporters took a few minutes to discuss when — and if — the market would stabilize.

Margot Sanger-Katz: Every time I write a story about the health law, I get comments and emails from people just above the income cutoff for subsidies. These are the people who have been most hurt by the health law. Plans on the exchanges are just really expensive for them, and often come with big deductibles, too. And if premiums keep rising, they’ll keep getting squeezed. Analysts from the Urban Institute have done the math and found that some of them are paying more than 25 percent of their income on health care now. Still, it is awfully hard to imagine Congress approving massive new spending to make Obamacare more generous. Hillary Clinton has some proposals about affordability, but they don’t include expanding subsidies.

Reed Abelson:
One of the strengths of the law, and its main weakness, is its emphasis on keeping the status quo. While President Obama may have overpromised when he said you can keep your plan if you like it, the insurance isn’t radically different. The only way companies can seem to bring down prices is by narrowing networks of hospitals and doctors or hiking deductibles. While Bernie Sanders seems to be offering the most dramatic change by proposing that everyone switch to a government plan like Medicare, I’m still looking for a market response — some real change in how care is delivered that is much less expensive or at least more effective.


Comment by Don McCanne of PNHP:
Six years after the Affordable Care Act was signed into law we hear opinions ranging from what a phenomenal success it has been to what a miserable disaster it is. This brief excerpt from a discussion between two respected journalists who have followed the process closely, and who are well versed on the policy issues, provides us with a perspective on where we actually are on reform.

It is somewhat sobering. There have been some tradeoffs such as expanding nominally the numbers insured but with insurance products that further limit provider choice and shift more costs to the patients. Margot Sanger-Katz says that the health law “basically baked in all of the complexity and dysfunction of the pre-existing American health care system.”

Most of the system has remained about the same while the deficiencies introduced offset much of the gains. We are still left with tens of millions uninsured, tens of millions more who are underinsured, and costs that continue to increase in spite of the expansion of blunt financial barriers to beneficial health care services. Even employer-sponsored plans are beginning to deteriorate, especially because of higher deductibles and narrower networks.

Reed Abelson says that he is looking for “a market response — some real change in how care is delivered that is much less expensive or at least more effective.” Yet it has been confirmed over the last half century that markets do not work in controlling health care spending. Nothing in the Affordable Care Act will change that in spite of wishes that feeble policy measures such as ACA exchange competition, ACOs, shared shavings, bundling, wellness programs, meaningless rhetoric of quality over quantity, and other ACA concepts would revolutionize health care. The revolution is not happening.

So claims of phenomenal success or miserable disaster can be ignored since we really have not fundamentally changed the infrastructure of our system.
But with that background, we actually have failed: We failed to enact an Improved Medicare for All which would have met our goals for reform. We can still do it, you know.

My comment: ACA has helped many, but we have to eventually get to single payer.
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oh, c'mon. the ACA is the mostest wonderfullest progressive thing ever! KG Apr 2016 #1
Or ... the ACA is the mostest worstest disasterousest thing ever! because, Obama. pampango Apr 2016 #2
Avoid binary thinking. cf. Posts #1 and #2 Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #3
The uninsured rate matters little if you still can't afford healthcare Android3.14 Apr 2016 #6
Add a public option. Adrahil Apr 2016 #9
Unless we get the landscape of Congress changed I don't see either happening. Amimnoch Apr 2016 #14
Incrementalism is the answer, says Hillary... Human101948 Apr 2016 #15
Perhaps you can provide a theoretical roll call vote? Amimnoch Apr 2016 #18
I just donated to Tim Canova... Human101948 Apr 2016 #24
Some it's just $1 to help their numbers. Amimnoch Apr 2016 #29
Okay, so we're on the same page... Human101948 Apr 2016 #31
That thinking... scscholar Apr 2016 #26
EXACTLY! SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #10
My daughter has it Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #23
100% EdwardBernays Apr 2016 #28
After the Cadillac tax, we'll... scscholar Apr 2016 #33
This year I'll pay 600 in premium Skink Apr 2016 #34
Insurance is not Healthcare magical thyme Apr 2016 #11
The sun rises in the East. Gravity sucks. Water is wet. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #13
A vacuum sucks. Gravity just is. nt magical thyme Apr 2016 #20
A vacuum doesn't suck; the air behind pushes. Gravity is not "just is"; it requires presence of mass Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #21
You have the wrong longhair as your avatar... Human101948 Apr 2016 #25
my vacuum sucks dirt into it. nt magical thyme Apr 2016 #37
The false zero is a deadly sin of data presentation. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2016 #44
Market solutions will never be satisfactory except to the profit takers. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #4
absolutely, Mbrow Apr 2016 #8
Hell, people just above the expanded medicaid cutoff will get squeezed, too. strategery blunder Apr 2016 #5
And in just a couple of years, the subsidies start getting cut. Yo_Mama Apr 2016 #22
Medicare for All, including dental, optical, hearing aids and mental health services. Scuba Apr 2016 #7
This, and do it before I go stage 4 Umbral18 Apr 2016 #16
Then stop at my garage sale. i may have something that'll fit. Scuba Apr 2016 #17
You are correct yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #27
Perhaps we should consider a national public insurance system funded through taxes Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #12
The affordable care act also included provisions that have led to tests for other models for paying karynnj Apr 2016 #19
All it is is mandatory health insurance WDIM Apr 2016 #30
The "affordable" care act has done nothing to make care more affordable tularetom Apr 2016 #32
This has already happened to us & will indeed be the demise of the whole house of cards that is ACA Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #35
why do you think the subsidies will disappear? hfojvt Apr 2016 #41
I could be wrong but I thought it was written into the law tularetom Apr 2016 #42
I don't find that in a search hfojvt Apr 2016 #43
The Democrats passed an ACA that does nothing for the working poor Dems to Win Apr 2016 #36
oh he can too afford to goto a doctor hfojvt Apr 2016 #39
No, you don't understand the concept of a deductible Dems to Win Apr 2016 #45
"Every time I write a story ..." hfojvt Apr 2016 #38
Don't get expensively sick n/t eridani Apr 2016 #46
It's a cluster $%^%. According to every healthcare provider I have talked to. nt clarice Apr 2016 #40
Single Payer NOW! Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #47
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